Received: from PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po5.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA09045; Wed, 2 Aug 95 18:11:44 EDT Received: from mama.minmet.uq.oz.au by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA17712; Wed, 2 Aug 95 18:11:07 EDT Received: from mmug16 (mmug16.minmet.uq.oz.au [130.102.112.216]) by mama.minmet.uq.oz.au (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id IAA09832 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 08:10:23 +1000 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 08:10:23 +1000 Message-Id: <199508022210.IAA09832@mama.minmet.uq.oz.au> X-Sender: mm328995@mail.minmet.uq.oz.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: somms@MIT.EDU From: mm328995@minmet.uq.oz.au (John Grieves) Subject: Favourite bands Hi folks - I'm new to this list, but bear with me - I might have something to contribute (despite only having Superunknown and Badmotorfinger at the moment!) >what other bands do soundgarden fans like? I'm actually a Faith No More fan first and foremost (sorry! - I was on the Faith No More mailing list before this one), but I obviously think Soundgarden is brilliant or I wouldn't be here. I also like Aerosmith, Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, AC/DC. Jackhammer. ___________________________________________________________________ With so many people getting stoned, is a gravel quarry a good way to go? Received: from PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po5.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA18079; Wed, 2 Aug 95 21:15:51 EDT Received: from student.uq.edu.au by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA03385; Wed, 2 Aug 95 21:15:35 EDT Received: from student.uq.edu.au (s325961@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by student.uq.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id LAA23539 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 11:15:21 +1000 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 11:15:15 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: blind dog To: The Garden Subject: video clips and the like Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm sure that almost everyone on this list has seen the video for outshined. what I am wondering, however, is that is there anyone out there who has seen a different version of the clip. I am assuming here that the 'real' version is the one with the orange wash in the background, and the old guy in the mouse-wheel thing. I saw the second one late at night over here in australia on some program which featured live music from various groups. it wasn't aired very often or for long. the second clip had a big yellow look to it. it also had huge pieces of clear plastic hanging from the roof, for the express purpose of running into. it was reminiscent of the aic clip for we die young. so it was basically the same, but with a different background. the cool middle verse was still cut out, however. so what I want to know is, what the hell is the second one? I read an article in musician magazine once where they were talking about their videos, and how the mtv version of their clip was not their best one. someone from the band was saying that the director who was doing the outshined clip was also doing the metallica unforgiven video, so he couldn't concentrate soely on theirs (I think their's suffered). whoever was talking about it (it may have been ben) said that later the director came back to them with the real video. it was supposed to be a hell of a lot better. is this the better one? has anyone seen the one I'm talking about, for that matter? I'd be interested to know, 'cause I've got both on tape. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- Received: from PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po5.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA01917; Thu, 3 Aug 95 07:04:30 EDT Received: from InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AB01993; Thu, 3 Aug 95 07:03:53 EDT Received: by InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca; (5.65/1.1.8.2/14Mar94-1051AM) id AA14931; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 08:33:42 -0230 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 08:33:42 -0230 (NDT) From: Tony Dawe To: Muhammad Lee Cc: Ahmed Osman , somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Not Pop! In-Reply-To: <199508011922.PAA34266@ns2-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, Muhammad Lee wrote: > > > Ahmad, > I agree with you entirely that soundgarden will not be accepted as a > popmetal/rock band. in bmg, they are classified as hard rock/metal. but once there was a box with some other bands in it and the title of this box was alterna-metal. it really surprised me! /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ /\Tony Dawe /\ \/gbf2033@infonet.st-johns.nf.ca \/ /\St.Johns InfoNET /\ \/"I am you, you are me, \/ /\ no one is themselves" /\ \/"I am the law" \/ /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Received: from PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po5.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA03302; Thu, 3 Aug 95 07:58:31 EDT Received: from bsigate.bentley.com by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA04263; Thu, 3 Aug 95 07:58:21 EDT Received: from ccmailgw2.bentley.com (ccmailgw2.bentley.com [192.204.114.8]) by bsigate.bentley.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id HAA03259; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 07:55:54 -0400 Received: from ccMail by ccmailgw2.bentley.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA807461915; Thu, 03 Aug 95 07:49:00 EST Date: Thu, 03 Aug 95 07:49:00 EST From: "Ahmed Osman" Message-Id: <9507038074.AA807461915@ccmailgw2.bentley.com> To: mrl5@lehigh.edu, Tony Dawe Cc: Ahmed.Osman@Bentley.COM, somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re[2]: Not Pop! Something I've been thinking about for the past couple days was the impact of videos on the way I listen to music. Generally, there are at least two types (probably more, but) of videos. One in which band/artist attempts to tell a story or blatantly spoonfeed the literal meaning of the song. I call this type a concept video. The other type is where the band creates video of the band playing on some stage, cornfield, or rooftop and thats it. You don't see any hollywood special effects, notable sports athletes, or barnyard animals. Basically, its a no-frills live video, this the name, the NO-Frills video. I started thinking about this when someone from the Soundgarden newsgroup asked me what I thought the Black Hole Sun video ment. When I starting thinking about the words of the song, images of the video kept on popping in my head and it annoyed me because I had to struggle to come up with my own opinion of the song. Dont't get me wrong, I think that video was on of the best I've seen in several years, but I felt it was infringing on my personal interpretation of the song. On the contrast, the videos for Fell on Black Days and Spoonman did not have this effect on me at all. So I'm kind of curious, what everyone out there thinks about this.... just my two (non)cents Ahmed Osman ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Not Pop! Author: Tony Dawe at Internet Date: 8/3/95 7:14 AM On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, Muhammad Lee wrote: > > > Ahmad, > I agree with you entirely that soundgarden will not be accepted as a > popmetal/rock band. in bmg, they are classified as hard rock/metal. but once there was a box with some other bands in it and the title of this box was alterna-metal. it really surprised me! /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ /\Tony Dawe /\ \/gbf2033@infonet.st-johns.nf.ca \/ /\St.Johns InfoNET /\ \/"I am you, you are me, \/ /\ no one is themselves" /\ \/"I am the law" \/ /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Received: from PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po5.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA08791; Thu, 3 Aug 95 09:34:05 EDT Received: from NOC4.DCCS.UPENN.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA11795; Thu, 3 Aug 95 09:33:59 EDT Return-Path: Received: by noc4.dccs.upenn.edu id AA27180; Thu, 3 Aug 95 09:33:57 -0400 Received: from in by noc4.dccs.upenn.edu via MR/RELAY with conversational-MRIF; Thu, 03 Aug 95 09:33:57 -0400 Posted: Thu, 03 Aug 95 09:20:01 -0400 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 95 09:10:01 -0400 Sender: levy_d@a1.mscf.upenn.edu From: "Daniel Levy" Message-Id: <14425130805991/747138@MSCF> To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Tape trades Msg-Class: !AS Hey all: I'm new on the block. My name is Dan I have been trying to track down some SG live tapes. I heard that the "Supermainstream" disc was excellent but haven't been able to find it anywhere. Would anyone be willing to tape the CD for me? I would be willing to send a blank tape plus postage but I'd prefer to trade. I use Maxell XLII or XLII-S tapes with No Dolby. My list follows. (Dan Levy) LEVY_D@A1.MSCF.UPENN.EDU ************************************************************************* Note that I have an excellent audience copy of one of Pearl Jam's concerts for "Voters for Choice" 9/18/68 The Doors, Stockholm, Sweden 1/2 90 sb A- 6/18/67 Jimi Hendrix @ Monterey Pop(Full Set) 45 sb0 A 2/12/67 J Joplin w/BigBro&Hldg Co. SF Only 90 sb B+/A- 3/16/95 J Osborne, N Star Bar, Phila. Only 90 sb0 A 4/3/94 Pearl Jam,Fox Theatre,Atlanta 1/2/3 180 FM1 A 1/14/95 P Jam,VtrsFrChoice, Wash,DC Only 90 au1 A- 10/92 PJ Harvey -- Netherlands Tour Mix 90 sb/au A/A- 50%sbd 11/3/90 Phish, Boulder Theatre, CO 1 90 sb A- 8/3/91 Phish, Amys Farm 1/2 180 sb A- 12/6/91 Phish, Middlebury College, VT 2 90 sb A- 3/22/93 Phish, Crest Thtr,Sacramento 1 90 sb A- 6/7/70 Pink Floyd, LA Forum/BBC Brdcst Only 90 FM A- 8/8/87 U2 Cork, Ireland Only 90 au B+ -/-/91 U2 "Achtung Baby" Sessions -- 60 sb1 A 8/28/93 U2 Dublin(Final Zooropa Show) 1/2 120 FM1 A- 1976 N.Young,Fall Tour-"Bernstein Tape" 90 au/sb A- Acoustic 9/27/84 N.Young, Wrlds Fr.New Orleans Only 110 sb? A- Zydeco! 11/21/86 N.Young, Cow Palace, San Fran 1/2 180 FM A Electric 11/13/90 N.Young,Catlyst Club,Snta Cruz1/2 180 au A- Electric 1/14/95 N Young,VtrsFrChoice, Wash,DC Only 90 au1 A- 1/15 filler Received: from PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po5.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA17210; Thu, 3 Aug 95 11:18:33 EDT Received: from hermes.csd.unb.ca by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA23976; Thu, 3 Aug 95 11:18:16 EDT Received: from UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA by unb.ca (8.6.12/950414-15:35) id MAA11207; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 12:18:12 -0300 Received: from UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA by UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8940; Thu, 03 Aug 95 12:16:12 ADT Received: from UNB.CA (NJE origin MUSIC@UNBVM1) by UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8939; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 12:15:16 -0300 Message-Id: <03AUG95.13233856.0194.MUSIC@UNB.CA> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 95 12:15:12 -0300 From: WALKER C To: Subject: haircut and SFW X-Mailer: MUSIC/SP V3.1.1 hey there, i haven't posted anything yet so i guess it's about time. i have answers to two questions. i read in an article a while ago that chris shaved his hair simply because of a bet. nothing mystical, deep, or disturning about the whole affair. sorry. and, also, SFW, the movie with a soundtrack that includes the acoustic version of like suicide, stands for so fuckin' what. hope that quenches any curious thirst for knowledge. ciao, chantale Received: from PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po5.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA25092; Thu, 3 Aug 95 12:39:23 EDT Received: from mwunix.mitre.org by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA05294; Thu, 3 Aug 95 12:39:10 EDT Return-Path: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org Received: from tgate2.mitre.org (tgate2.mitre.org [128.29.154.211]) by mwunix.mitre.org (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id MAA09846 for <@mwunix.mitre.org:somms@mit.edu>; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 12:39:08 -0400 Received: from [128.29.250.2:4697] by tgate1 with SMTP id A245745 ; Thr, 3 Aug 95 12:38:43 EDT Received: by mail03.mitre.org; (5.65 EXP 2/15/95/1.1.8.2/22Jun94-0628PM) id AA06725; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 12:37:53 -0400 Subject: SG unknow CD From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) To: somms@MIT.EDU Message-Id: <950803123748.23262@mail03.mitre.org.0> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 95 12:37:52 -0400 I just received a magazine from CD MUSIC COMPANY, with a mailing address of Misano Adriatico Italy. It is selling rare live recordings or at lease it claims they are rare live recordings. There are three listing for Soundgarden. They are: Crown of Thorns Europe 92 101 mins. - 2 CD $44.00 The Garden Growns Norway 94 105 mins. - 2 CD $44.00 Soundgarden - The Graden Growns 1 CD (no ref. to where it was recorded) $22.00 There is also a listing for a box set of 3 CD/Color Poster for The Complete Show Lollapalooza 92 Vol. 1. (Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Lush, and Jesus and Mary Chain) - $75.00. Has anyone heard of the company or the CD? Jamie Received: from PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po5.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA08480; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:02:45 EDT Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA24125; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:02:35 EDT Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA095156554; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 15:02:35 -0400 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 15:02:35 -0400 From: LEM89@aol.com Message-Id: <950803145913_129688076@aol.com> To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: just moved to Seattle Since arriving in Seattle, I've had this great experience: I discovered the site of the "hunger strike" video! I'm sure a lot of you know this already, but it was really fun for me to be there. I came upon it unawares. I wanted to go for a nice hike in a beautiful park, and I had read in Rolling Stone Magazine that Discovery Park is Chris Cornell's fave getaway ("even my littlest dogs go down there"). So off I went. I came to the top of these white sand dunes, with an expansive view out over the sound... a big barge moving in.... hey, a strange sense of Deja Vu. Yes, there were the tall grasses in which Eddie stood. And the vista of houses behind Matt Cameron's drum set - all delightfully familiar to me. I mean, I think I've watched that video a million times. It's my absolute favorite! I love the beautiful outdoor setting. Both Chris and Eddie are in it and they both have their beautiful long hair (which is no more, sob, sob). But I'm getting off the subject here. I took the 20 minute hike down to the beach and saw the lighthouse that is in the video, too. Someone had said that it is the Alki beach lighthouse, but they are wrong. There is no beach around Alki, and no woodsy setting. I danced on that beach where they danced....YAY! Being in Seattle is a good thing. I apologize to all those people who wrote to me just before I left New York. I have been away from a computer for over a month now. But I would like to get in touch with any Seattle people, if you care to write to me again... I've already met someone who is friends with Barry and Jeff Ament, and another friend told me his old guitar was bought by Chris Cornell, it's in the air, they're all around me...I'm going to see Inflatable Soule Friday night, if anybody knows who they are. Received: from PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po5.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA12856; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:50:35 EDT Received: from nss1.CC.Lehigh.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA00775; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:50:24 EDT Received: from ns4-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU (mrl5@ns4-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU [128.180.1.42]) by nss1.CC.Lehigh.EDU (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA278870 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 15:50:19 -0400 Received: (mrl5@localhost) by ns4-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU (8.6.10/8.6.9) id PAA70874; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 15:50:16 -0400 Message-Id: <199508031950.PAA70874@ns4-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 1995 15:50:09 EDT From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (Muhammad Lee) X-Mailer: SENDM [Version 2.0.15] X-Ack: Please RSVP to this message to acknowledge that you have received it. Subject: UltramegaUnknown To: somms@MIT.EDU To whom it may concern, I made an error concerning the tracks on the UltramegaUnknown soundtrack the 13 track is beyond the wheel not hunted down. Clown with Bazooka ****************************************** Tears Of The Feeble Hands Of The Slaves Skin Of The Mothers Mouths Of The Babes Building The Towers Belongs To The Sky When The Whole Thing Comes Crashing Down Don't Ask Me Why -Soundgarden ******************************************* Received: from PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po5.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA13519; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:00:14 EDT Received: from nss1.CC.Lehigh.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA01925; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:59:33 EDT Received: from ns4-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU (root@ns4-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU [128.180.1.42]) by nss1.CC.Lehigh.EDU (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA52482 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 15:59:32 -0400 Received: (mrl5@localhost) by ns4-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU (8.6.10/8.6.9) id PAA57009; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 15:52:51 -0400 Message-Id: <199508031952.PAA57009@ns4-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 1995 15:52:48 EDT From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (Muhammad Lee) X-Mailer: SENDM [Version 2.0.15] X-Ack: Please RSVP to this message to acknowledge that you have received it. Subject: Unknown To: somms@MIT.EDU I just received a magazine from CD MUSIC COMPANY, with a mailing address of Misano Adriatico Italy. It is selling rare live recordings or at lease it claims they are rare live recordings. There are three listing for Soundgarden. They are: Crown of Thorns Europe 92 101 mins. - 2 CD $44.00 The Garden Growns Norway 94 105 mins. - 2 CD $44.00 Soundgarden - The Graden Growns 1 CD (no ref. to where it was recorded) $22.00 There is also a listing for a box set of 3 CD/Color Poster for The Complete Show Lollapalooza 92 Vol. 1. (Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Lush, and Jesus and Mary Chain) - $75.00. Has anyone heard of the company or the CD? Jamie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jamie, No I have not, however could you please send me the mailing address of that cd company. I have heard of the Lollapalooza cd and form what my sources tell me the sound quality was horrible. So I am assuming the Box set cd that has sondgarden on it comes from the same source and would have the same sound quality. Muhammad Received: from PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po5.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA10220; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:21:09 EDT Received: from bsigate.bentley.com by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA26516; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:20:58 EDT Received: from ccmailgw2.bentley.com (ccmailgw2.bentley.com [192.204.114.8]) by bsigate.bentley.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA05089; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 15:19:37 -0400 Received: from ccMail by ccmailgw2.bentley.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA807488553; Thu, 03 Aug 95 15:11:55 EST Date: Thu, 03 Aug 95 15:11:55 EST From: "Ahmed Osman" Message-Id: <9507038074.AA807488553@ccmailgw2.bentley.com> To: somms@MIT.EDU, LEM89@aol.com Subject: Re: just moved to Seattle take a look at the OFFRAMP (its a bar/club). Its a pretty good place to see bands. BTW, has anyone who's been to Seattle ever seen a band called Lazy Susan. I saw them last year and thought they were great. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: just moved to Seattle Author: LEM89@aol.com at Internet Date: 8/3/95 3:06 PM Since arriving in Seattle, I've had this great experience: I discovered the site of the "hunger strike" video! I'm sure a lot of you know this already, but it was really fun for me to be there. I came upon it unawares. I wanted to go for a nice hike in a beautiful park, and I had read in Rolling Stone Magazine that Discovery Park is Chris Cornell's fave getaway ("even my littlest dogs go down there"). So off I went. I came to the top of these white sand dunes, with an expansive view out over the sound... a big barge moving in.... hey, a strange sense of Deja Vu. Yes, there were the tall grasses in which Eddie stood. And the vista of houses behind Matt Cameron's drum set - all delightfully familiar to me. I mean, I think I've watched that video a million times. It's my absolute favorite! I love the beautiful outdoor setting. Both Chris and Eddie are in it and they both have their beautiful long hair (which is no more, sob, sob). But I'm getting off the subject here. I took the 20 minute hike down to the beach and saw the lighthouse that is in the video, too. Someone had said that it is the Alki beach lighthouse, but they are wrong. There is no beach around Alki, and no woodsy setting. I danced on that beach where they danced....YAY! Being in Seattle is a good thing. I apologize to all those people who wrote to me just before I left New York. I have been away from a computer for over a month now. But I would like to get in touch with any Seattle people, if you care to write to me again... I've already met someone who is friends with Barry and Jeff Ament, and another friend told me his old guitar was bought by Chris Cornell, it's in the air, they're all around me...I'm going to see Inflatable Soule Friday night, if anybody knows who they are.