Received: from PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po5.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA22655; Thu, 3 Aug 95 17:48:30 EDT Received: from mama.minmet.uq.oz.au by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA15595; Thu, 3 Aug 95 17:48:12 EDT Received: from mmug16 (mmug16.minmet.uq.oz.au [130.102.112.216]) by mama.minmet.uq.oz.au (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id HAA20525 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 07:47:28 +1000 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 07:47:28 +1000 Message-Id: <199508032147.HAA20525@mama.minmet.uq.oz.au> X-Sender: mm328995@mail.minmet.uq.oz.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: somms@MIT.EDU From: mm328995@minmet.uq.oz.au (John Grieves) Subject: Analysis of songs At 07:49 AM 8/3/95 EST, Ahmed Osman wrote: > On the contrast, the videos for Fell on Black Days and Spoonman did > not have this effect on me at all. So I'm kind of curious, what > everyone out there thinks about this.... > > > just my two (non)cents > > Ahmed Osman > It's interesting to look at the way people analyse songs. I'm yet to find people who go about it in the process that I use. Unfortunately, such is my life that I rarely get to see videos for songs. I have seen both the Spoonman and Blackhole Sun (BHS) videos, and thought that they were both very interesting but in no way influenced my opinion on the songs - the following description of how I listen to a song will hopefully tell you why: First I listen to the MUSIC, not the lyrics. I establish the beat of the song in my head and listen to the harmonies, chord progressions, use of instruments etc (in case your wondering, yeah, I'm play a musical intrument). This is why Black Hole Sun has remained a favourite of mine - it may be (relatively) slow, but it is very interesting musically. At this stage, the vocalist is just another instrument. After about ten listens (or however many it takes), if I like the music, I'll start to pay attention to the lyrics, and it's not until many listens later that I know what the song may or may not be about - I still have no idea what BHS is about! To give you a classic example (for you Pearl Jam fans), it took me two months before I realised that Spin The Black Circle was about Vinyl! Hence, it's usually not the meaning of lyrics for which a like a song... Just my three pence worth... Jackhammer. Received: from PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po5.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA15940; Fri, 4 Aug 95 06:06:25 EDT Received: from mail.nerc-swindon.ac.uk by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA29276; Fri, 4 Aug 95 06:03:30 EDT Received: from 192.171.149.22 by mail.nerc-swindon.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <21971-0@mail.nerc-swindon.ac.uk>; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 11:02:19 +0100 Received: from Keyworth-Message_Server by wpo.nerc.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 04 Aug 1995 11:02:58 +0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 1995 11:02:27 +0000 From: Daniel Ladle To: MoonDruid@aol.com, somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Bands I Like I also like Pearl Jam, Sugar, Alice in Chains, The Sisters of Mercy, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Seal, Swervedriver, Mega City Four, Rush, Jimi Hendrix , Metalicca, Megadeth, The Stone Temple Pilots and Many others too strange to mention. If anyone has a four track and is interested in making music get in touch with me, even if you live overseas (just imagine a truly international band wouldn't that be cool), I play guitar(badly) and sing so mail me if you are interested. Hope to hear from anyone soon, Ta Dan Received: from SOUTH-STATION-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po5.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA08079; Fri, 4 Aug 95 18:03:29 EDT Received: from PUTTANESCA.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA01995; Fri, 4 Aug 95 18:03:04 EDT Received: by puttanesca.MIT.EDU (5.57/4.7) id AA25463; Fri, 4 Aug 95 18:03:04 -0400 Message-Id: <9508042203.AA25463@puttanesca.MIT.EDU> To: somms@MIT.EDU Cc: GSCS16A@prodigy.com Reply-To: saperl@MIT.EDU Subject: Digest Mailings Date: Fri, 04 Aug 1995 18:03:04 EDT From: seth I've finally managed to get some scripts together that will allow me to compile each day's messages and send them out as a digest. Please let me know if you would like to receive somms email this way, rather than as separate messages; if you would also like to remain on the regular somms mailing list (I don't really see why you would want to be on both), let me know. To make life easier for me, just reply to this message and I will remove you from somms and add you to somms-digest. seth (listadmin) Received: from PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po5.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA09835; Fri, 4 Aug 95 18:35:15 EDT Received: from beach1.csulb.edu by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA17612; Fri, 4 Aug 95 18:34:40 EDT Message-Id: <9508042234.AA17612@MIT.EDU> Date: 4 Aug 95 15:33:00 PST From: "DanielPerry " Subject: SG videos To: "somms" Does anyone know about a commercially produced video cassette of all or most of Soundgarden's videos? I'm talking about the music videos you see on Mtv not live or bootleg stuff. - By the way, if you haven't seen Motorvision yet... see it! Received: from PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po5.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA11273; Fri, 4 Aug 95 19:07:12 EDT Received: from srvr5.engin.umich.edu by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA20281; Fri, 4 Aug 95 19:07:06 EDT Received: from [141.212.33.35] ([141.212.33.35]) by srvr5.engin.umich.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with SMTP id TAA27420 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 19:04:43 -0400 Message-Id: <199508042304.TAA27420@srvr5.engin.umich.edu> X-Sender: pavr@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 19:07:54 -0500 To: somms@MIT.EDU From: pavr@umich.edu (Paul Van Rompay) Subject: SG is a pop band + Other good bands Someone asked a good question a little while back - What other bands do we, SG fans, listen to? I'm really pretty shocked by the response. The bands I saw listed I could have easily predicted based on stereotypes or whatever. e.g. Pearl Jam, FNM, Primus, Alice in Chains - They're all pop bands, including SG. By pop I mean popular, NOT pop-sounding. Musical styles are so screwed up now-a-days that some bands like SG wouldn't really belong anywhere if the same ones that existed 10 years ago were still used. Some people try though. What's popular defines what is pop music now. POP now-a-days is just that - whatever is popular. Lots of "Alternative", "Metal", and "Grunge" is pop, even if you don't understand why. I admit SG is pop, but they're still a great band. We'll see how they handle it with their next album. It could be good, good and popular, or just popular. Whatever . . . what I was surprised to see was that the other bands you guys like are all POP. I was hoping to see some GOOD, unknown (i.e. non-pop) bands - maybe even some I haven't heard of that I would then check out. But NO. So, here's my list of good non-pop bands - albums worth checking out in (). (I still very much like pop bands AiC, FNM, Primus, Metallica, Nirvana). **Kyuss ("blues for the red sun", "sky valley") **Mule (any) **Fugazi - semi-pop (any & all) **Godflesh (any) **Bullet Lavolta ("swandive" & others) Voivod (any) Fudge Tunnel (any) Monster Magnet (any) Hater Chucklehead ("big wet kiss") Bim Skala Bim (any) Danzig - OK, pop (#1) Boss Hog Thumper ** Please do yourself a favor & give these bands a serious listen. How many have heard of these bands? OK, enough talk. What bands (pop & non-pop) do you like? Adios, -Paul- Received: from PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po5.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA15783; Fri, 4 Aug 95 21:12:18 EDT Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA27914; Fri, 4 Aug 95 21:12:14 EDT Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA181285134; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 21:12:14 -0400 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 21:12:14 -0400 From: JUNKGUNF@aol.com Message-Id: <950804211213_48244969@aol.com> To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: SG videos In a message dated 95-08-04 18:36:11 EDT, you write: >Does anyone know about a commercially produced video cassette of all or most >of Soundgarden's videos? I'm talking about the music videos you see on Mtv >not live or bootleg stuff. you can get "hands all over" and "loud love" from the video louder than love. And you can get "spoonman", "fell on black days", "Black Hole Sun" and "My Wave" all unedited from the A&M promo video sampler #9. You can get "Jesus Christ Pose" from the A&M promo "Hunted Molt and Gather" video also. Steven Received: from PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po5.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA20496; Sat, 5 Aug 95 00:14:00 EDT Received: from sibyl.intellinet.com by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA07018; Sat, 5 Aug 95 00:13:36 EDT Received: (from kc@localhost) by intellinet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA19318; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 23:15:22 -0500 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 23:15:21 -0500 (CDT) From: John Darron Subject: Pop or not pop To: Paul Van Rompay Cc: somms@MIT.EDU In-Reply-To: <199508042304.TAA27420@srvr5.engin.umich.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Uh, I like Gruntruck, Marilyn Manson, Malfunkshun, For Love Not Lisa, Nirvana, SG (duh), White Zombie, Definition FX, Monster Magnet, Paw, PJam, Grip Inc., Feoutus (?), NIN, and some more..... John Received: from PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po5.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA23014; Sat, 5 Aug 95 02:39:28 EDT Received: from goodnet.com by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA12244; Sat, 5 Aug 95 02:38:03 EDT Received: from gl11.goodnet.com (gl11.goodnet.com [205.164.211.11]) by goodnet.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA28810 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 23:33:54 -0700 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 23:33:54 -0700 Message-Id: <199508050633.XAA28810@goodnet.com> X-Sender: nathan@goodguy.goodnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: somms@MIT.EDU From: nathan@goodnet.com (Nathan Fuller) Subject: Pop bands?! These are the less than popular bands I like: Archers of Loaf, Truly, Mekons, Fig Dish, Crunt, Gutterball, Pavement, Superchunk, and... L.A. Guns. This is the less than spirited end of my post. NATHAN@GOODNET.COM :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "Everywhere is in walking distance if you have the time"