From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 29 Aug 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 01:25:03 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 29 Aug 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://web.mit.edu/saperl/sg/archive/archive.html Today's Topics: wayne's world New site The 2 Web sites did anyone else hear European shows at Internet site What did Chris Cornell do to Michael Jackson's statue? Re: What did Chris Cornell do to Michael Jackson's statue? SG Re: Offspring Re: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 27 Aug 1995 Re: wayne's world "Night Surf" availability Hiro Soundgarden Guitar Tab tour updates? Re: New site Re: Hiro Re: Hiro Re: Soundgarden Guitar Tab Re: Seth & the Web sites ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 09:21:00 -0400 From: ThisRulz@aol.com To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: wayne's world hey all!! i saw that movie last night and on the credits it said Loud Love was in the movie and i think there was another song cuz i thought i saw a written by chris cornell and the only part of the title i caught was All, was it All Night thing, or was it nothing at all? and i know the songs aren't on the soundtrack, cuz i used to have that. ------------------------------ Subject: New site From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) To: somms@MIT.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Aug 95 09:49:04 -0400 >Naturally, he never called me back, so this is as much news to me as it is to you, and while it >probably excites you, it really pisses me off. Sorry about the ranting, but I hate when people make empty promises. You should be! >It really is a beautiful site; One little second there Seth, I think you are being a bit generous with your praise. I have a 16mm of memory, a high resolution driver/monitor, and enough hard drive space to choke a cow, and I did not "DID NOT" like the print or picture resolutions. First of all I had to shut down some of the other application to get the screen image to paint. The colors used for the print is really bad - if they had done any research in this area they would have know that red is not the prefer color for readability (most people have trouble reading red print). I do not like pictures that are blurred or done that they look out of focus. Every thing was messy. Why did they place the logo on each page, a bad logo to begin with? There was no continuity, you just wonder around not knowing where to click or where to go (OK so I am anal about organization). You had to jump from one page to another just to find out the price on a piece of merchandise. And they tell you how to join the club, but put the address on another page. Bad business!!! Look, I have been around the computer/business world a long time, the type of work they created on this official page was sloppy. It was a simply a ploy to get money for the club and merchandise - there was no real information about the band. I know that SG's is in this for the money (it's their livelihood) and I understand that, but damn if I like the feeling of being used. Maybe I'm just getting too cynical in my old age. > I wish I had the resources to make my page look like that. Now it's only a matter of time before I remove it altogether. Please don't drop your page just yet. I will send e:mail to the group (like they will ever see it), and tell them the same things I have told you. I'm not saying this just out of loyalty to you. If the official SG page had knock my socks off, I would have been happy to support it and would have still had stay with your page. But, for something that is official, it sure was unprofessional. I don't believe in lowering my standards, just because something has the blessing of the group (SG), doesn't mean it can be done badly and I should go with it. If they want my support and money - then they need to earn it. This has to be done in all areas of the business, not just the music. They best cut of steak, would not be eaten if served upon a bed of shit. SG makes the best cut of music - now lets hope their management doesn't start surrounding them with shit. Jamie ------------------------------ To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: The 2 Web sites Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:47:34 EDT From: seth I wasn't thinking rationally when I claimed it would only be a matter of time before I removed my Web site, the unofficial Soundgarden homepage. Thanks to all of you who have emailed me and made it clear that the site should remain active. I checked the official site again, and although I still think it looks really slick, it's completely devoid of information (lyrics, discogs, articles, side projects, other Soundgarden links, etc.). And for those of you with text-only browsers, the new site is useless, since there is not one text character to be found anywhere in those pages. Since it doesn't look like the official site is going to have text, I'll try to extract all information that I think might be interesting (concert dates, etc.) and present it in such a way that everyone can read it. By the way, please send comments and suggestions for the new site to me, and I'll forward them to my contact there. It doesn't make any sense for me to be mad at these people; if I can show them what the fans want, maybe they'll make changes that will benefit all of us. Okay, I feel better now. Other Web page news (for my site): the mailing list archive and the image archive are now kept on Stargate Industries' Web server, which is FAST, much faster than MIT's server. I may, at some point, move all of the pages there. I've also mirrored the main page there, which can be found at http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/ seth (listadmin) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:56:33 -0400 From: ThisRulz@aol.com To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: did anyone else hear i was read the messages at alt.soundgarden, and i read this one that said chris cornell defaced a michael jackson statue. is this true????? if it is that'd kick ass. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 95 13:34:38 EDT From: "Si tu pouvais savoir..." To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: European shows at Internet site In the digest for August 26, nephend@usa.pipeline.com (nancy e phend) included an article that was in USA today on Thursday. In the article it said there would be photos from the European mini tour at an Internet site and gave the URL as http://Rocktopolis.com/Soundgarden. I tried to open this URL using Netscape and it didn't couldn't find "Rocktopolis.com" Does anyone know if this is the right URL? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 95 13:43:00 EDT From: "Si tu pouvais savoir..." To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: What did Chris Cornell do to Michael Jackson's statue? On the newsgroup someone was saying CC had "defaced" one of MJ's "HIStory" statues at a record store. What did he do to it? When and where? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:06:55 -0600 (MDT) From: Chris Mackenzie To: "Si tu pouvais savoir..." Cc: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: What did Chris Cornell do to Michael Jackson's statue? I think this happened in London. MJ was signing autographs at a record store. CC went inside to look around. People swarmed around him instead of MJ, so they kicked him out of the record store. CC then "defaced" the MJ statue outside of the record store. I'm guessing he pissed on it. This is the info. somebody gave on a.m.soundgarden, he/she said she heard it on the radio in London. Chris Mackenzie "Leaves growing blood hungry leeches and your fresh deadly roses" - Soundgarden "He caught wind of the big brown beaver so he thought he'd take himself a peek, but the beaver was quick and grabbed him by the kiwis and he ain't pissed for a week (and a half)" - Primus "I know you well, you are a part of me" - TOOL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 13:16:38 -0500 To: somms@MIT.EDU From: rrrodrig@facstaff.wisc.edu (Ray Rodriguez) Subject: SG Does anyone know about any SG-related stuff coming out soon? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 14:59:20 -0400 From: Minerva657@aol.com To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Offspring someone wrote saying noodles was a kindergarten teacher... nope, he was a janitor :) - --yellers ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 16:56:57 -0400 From: MoonDruid@aol.com To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 27 Aug 1995 >What I'd like to know is, does Kim Thayil change his tunings in between >songs when playing live or is he just so good that he works around these >tunings - or are these tunings are load of garbage and Kim has this ultra >special tuning which covers all songs? Or something else I've missed? >All replies and thoughts welcome!- 'cos I've never seen Soundgarden live! Probably has two or three guitars and he has his roadies tune them when he's playing. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 18:09:45 -0400 To: ThisRulz@aol.com Subject: Re: wayne's world Cc: somms@MIT.EDU On Aug 28, 9:21am, ThisRulz@aol.com wrote: > Subject: wayne's world > hey all!! i saw that movie last night and on the credits it said Loud Love > was in the movie and i think there was another song cuz i thought i saw a > written by chris cornell and the only part of the title i caught was All, was > it All Night thing, or was it nothing at all? and i know the songs aren't on > the soundtrack, cuz i used to have that. >-- End of excerpt from ThisRulz@aol.com All night thing is in there. I think its the beginning of the part at Rob Lowe's apartment thingy. You can here Loud Love being played in the background of a scene at the Gas Works. - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A LimoWreck j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "This is not an exit" -Anthrax "I know you better than I know myself" -TOOL "I am the wreck of you all" -Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: slotboom@vtel.com Date: Mon, 28 Aug 95 17:24:47 cst To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: "Night Surf" availability I caught Soundgarden last year on the Superunknown tour. They opened with a video clip accompanied by a instrumental piece that they played live. My understanding is that the song is called "Night Surf". Is this song available on CD, LP, EP, etc? If so, how can I order it? Thanks, Walter slotboom@vtel.com ------------------------------ From: "Robert Koca" To: somms@MIT.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 07:45:52 -0500 Subject: Hiro Cc: tulip@moose.erie.net Does anyone have any information on what ever happened to Hiro Yamamoto? Why did SG kick him out? any info appreciated, steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 01:41:05 +0100 From: jpop@mapmf.pmfst.hr (Jovica Popovic) To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Soundgarden Guitar Tab > What I'd like to know is, does Kim Thayil change his tunings in between > songs when playing live or is he just so good that he works around these > tunings - or are these tunings are load of garbage and Kim has this ultra > special tuning which covers all songs? Or something else I've missed? Well, there is a person known as 'guitar tech' that takes care of these things. Kim just hands him his guitar and gets a new one with strings tuned the way he needs it for the next song... Most bands do that. Even if the strings are in standard tunings, guitarists prefer certain guitars for certain songs... - -----------------------//----------------------------------+------------------ Jovica Popovic \\ // AMIGA: An Instrument for creative,| Official United jpop@mapmf.pmfst.hr \X/ free-thinking individuals among us.| Nations opinions Summary: | enforced by UN Anarchist, rocker, vegetarian, nonsmoking, drug-free Amigan| Security Council - -----------------------------------------------------------+------------------ * Q-Blue jr. * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 20:44:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Kid Coma To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: tour updates? Hey list! well? SG euro fans....we want updates! We want set lists! How were they? more, more, tell us, tell us! the person formally known as junkgunf, steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 10:29:52 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: blind dog To: Jamesetta Simpson Cc: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: New site On Mon, 28 Aug 1995, Jamesetta Simpson wrote: > One little second there Seth, I think you are being a bit generous with your > praise. I have a 16mm of memory, a high resolution driver/monitor, and enough > look out of focus. Every thing was messy. Why did they place the logo on each > page, a bad logo to begin with? I may be a little out of my league here jamie, but I thought that the page looked ok. and the logo wasn't that horrid, was it? > There was no continuity, you just wonder around not knowing where to click or > where to go (OK so I am anal about organization). You had to jump from one > page to another just to find out the price on a piece of merchandise. And they but the new shirts were nice :) as long as seth has gotten over his anger and has feels no need to wipe his site, then I don't think that there's much of a problem. if the authorised site wants to dingle around with 90000 byte images that don't have a whole heap of content (other than black backgrounds), then we can safely stay within the confines of seth's masterful homepage, and never have to worry about encountering the excesses of corporate-scheming. all seth needs to do is have a look at it now and again and take new info from it, so those poor souls who have text only terminals can be in-the-know as well. then we can have the best of both worlds, eh? justin ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 11:00:11 AEST-1000 From: Virginia KELLY Subject: Re: Hiro To: somms@MIT.EDU > Date sent: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 07:45:52 -0500 > From: Robert Koca > Subject: Hiro > To: somms@MIT.EDU > Copies to: tulip@moose.erie.net > Send reply to: moose.erie.net@moose.erie.net > Organization: erie.net > Priority: normal > Does anyone have any information on what ever happened to Hiro > Yamamoto? Why did SG kick him out? > > > any info appreciated, > steve He didn't get kicked out, he left to persue the career of family man. In other words he left the band to give him more time to family commitments. Virginia > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 21:10:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Rollason Subject: Re: Hiro To: Robert Koca Cc: somms@MIT.EDU, tulip@moose.erie.net Hiro now plays bass with Truly. They have a new record out on Capitol Records. I have no idea why or if they kicked him out... Jeff Rollason d010889c@dcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us On Mon, 28 Aug 1995, Robert Koca wrote: > Does anyone have any information on what ever happened to Hiro > Yamamoto? Why did SG kick him out? > > > any info appreciated, > steve > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 12:15:52 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: blind dog To: Jovica Popovic Cc: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Soundgarden Guitar Tab On Tue, 29 Aug 1995, Jovica Popovic wrote: > > What I'd like to know is, does Kim Thayil change his tunings in between > > songs when playing live or is he just so good that he works around these > > Well, there is a person known as 'guitar tech' that takes care of these > things. Kim just hands him his guitar and gets a new one with strings > tuned the way he needs it for the next song... Most bands do that. Even I also think that I read somewhere that they generally do songs that have the same tuning in the same set, so they don't have to change guitars after every song. can any guitar players on the list confirm? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 15:07:03 +1000 To: somms@MIT.EDU From: Carolyn Subject: Re: Seth & the Web sites On 28 August 1995 Seth wrote: >Thanks to all of you who have emailed me and made it clear >that the site should remain active >Since it doesn't look like the official site is going to have text, >I'll try to extract all information that I think might be interesting >(concert dates, etc.) and present it in such a way that everyone can >read it. On 29 August, Blind Dog wrote: > all seth needs to do is have a look at it now and again and take >new info from it, so those poor souls who have text only terminals can be >in-the-know as well. then we can have the best of both worlds, eh? Yes, Seth, I think it's unanimous that we all want your site to stay. It'll be great if you can take info from the official page and add to yours though. I can get images, but have a very slow line here which means images take a bloody long time to download. So the more text the better for me!! . >Other Web page news (for my site): the mailing list archive and the >image archive are now kept on Stargate Industries' Web server, which >is FAST, much faster than MIT's server. I may, at some point, move all >of the pages there. I've also mirrored the main page there, which can >be found at http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/ In the same theme, I've checked the main page you've mirrored and like its speediness. It'd be good to move all the pages there............ Carolyn Australian Music Freak ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Feel the rhythm with your hands - steal the rhythm while you can" - Spoonman "And my youth I pray to keep" - Black Hole Sun ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 29] ***************************************