From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 31 Aug 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 01:38:57 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Thursday, 31 Aug 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://web.mit.edu/saperl/sg/archive/archive.html Today's Topics: Re: sickman Re: Who Is that guy? weekly ranting Knights Re: Who Is that guy? RE: Knights Hater/Pigeonhed let me drown Re: weekly ranting chris and the trees RE: chris and the trees (fwd) weekly ranting RE: chris and the trees Re: rantings & ravings ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 11:12:57 -0400 To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: sickman On Aug 29, 11:09pm, John Darron wrote: > Subject: sickman > Sorry haven't typed much, been sick the last week. I read in "the net" > magazine that the soundgarden page is one of the best around. So, > everyone give the creators a big hand. > John >-- End of excerpt from John Darron go Seth. ah yeah... :) something good can happen when a band isn't media hungry and airplay is limited to basically one song. good job Mr. Seth. This was probably harder to put together because of Soundgarden's lack of print media. Thanks to all the people who knew a little so we could make it a lot. - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A LimoWreck j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "This is not an exit" -Anthrax "I know you better than I know myself" -TOOL "I am the wreck of you all" -Soundgarden ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 08:34:06 -0700 To: WshuWerHre@aol.com From: aagaston@wln.com (Aaron Gaston) Subject: Re: Who Is that guy? Cc: SOMMS@MIT.EDU >I have a few pictures fom when SG started-I'm not sur eof the exact years, >but Chris doesn't have a goatee and has his long hair. But there is this guy >in it, who I don't know who he is- and Its not Hiro, I know thta. Anyone >know who this guy is? > > That should be Jason Everman. He was Hiro's very brief replacement. He is also the sucker who put up the six hundred dollars that Nirvana's "Bleach" cost to record in 1989, which Jason played guitar on... At a Portland, OR SG show in August '90 after Ben joined the band, Cornell was calling Everman an "asshole". Does anyone know what he is up to these days? For some reason I think he is in Truly with Hiro... Aaron Gaston (aagaston@wln.com) http://www.wln.com/~aagaston/ ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 11:43:17 -0400 To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: weekly ranting this is my weekly ranting. The state of alternative music is growing sicker. One of the first big bands to make it big was Seattle's Pearl Jam. "Ten", their first release, was raw, full of energy, and spontaneous. As their careers have continued, their music has gotten more processed, and Vedder's lyrics seem to be manufactured, like their has to be a meaning. It seems that they have made a job out of something that should be fun. And for three albums, they have had 4 drummers (or 3). Then, the media's attraction to the alternative scene spawned such trash as Dead Eye Dick's "New Age Girl" and is now producing Tripping Daisys' "I got a girl". (notice a recurring theme?) After the departure of Kurt Cobain, his wife, Courtney Love, pushed her band Hole, into the marketplace. Love used her new found popularity as the widow of Cobain to get airplay, interviews, and popularity. Her band has already lost one member to Heroine and Love is constantly bitching because some one else gets more attention than she does at Hole's concerts. Nirvana drummer Dave Grohl is now guitarist/singer for the Foo Fighters. Thus far, they have managed to prosper without any backlash of his Nirvana popularity. A brightspot in Seattle. Good things: Hum, heavy guitars in a dreamy setting. Filter, anyone got tour dates? Primus, somebody liked them a lot. Paw, their first album, "Dragline", was a lot better. It's nice to see Soundgarden back out on the road. Sponge is touring w/ them right now in Europe. Maybe soon we will know their exact plans for a new release: live or studio. Both have been mentioned many times. I'd rather see them release a live video as it is tradition for them so far and work on another studio release. Thanks for listening, - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A LimoWreck j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "This is not an exit" -Anthrax "I know you better than I know myself" -TOOL "I am the wreck of you all" -Soundgarden ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 17:06:24 +0000 From: Daniel Ladle To: saperl@MIT.EDU, somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Knights Dear All, Do any of you know if it is possible to join Knights of the Sound Table from over here in little old England. If it is I would be very happy to hear from anyone with information as to how to do it without messing about with pounds into dollars and such like. Hope to hear from you all soon Dan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 13:30:15 EDT From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: Re: Who Is that guy? To: aagaston@wln.com (Aaron Gaston), somms@MIT.EDU Jason Everman is currently a Army airborne Ranger. ****************************************************************************** ......Shower in the dark day Clean Sparks Diving Down Cool in the water way Where the Baptized Drown Naked in the Cold Sun Breathing Life like Fire Thought I Was The Only One But That Was Just a Lie...... -Soundgarden ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: Michael Barnes To: 'somms' Subject: RE: Knights Date: Wed, 30 Aug 95 12:34:00 PDT I would like information on how to join in the states. If anyone has any info. it will be appreciated. Thanks. *** Korea or Canada or maybe Taiwan *** ************************************************* MichaelB@Humongous.com ---------- From: Daniel Ladle[SMTP:DMLA@wpo.nerc.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 1995 5:06 PM To: saperl; somms Subject: Knights Dear All, Do any of you know if it is possible to join Knights of the Sound Table from over here in little old England. If it is I would be very happy to hear from anyone with information as to how to do it without messing about with pounds into dollars and such like. Hope to hear from you all soon Dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 00:23:32 +0100 From: jpop@mapmf.pmfst.hr (Jovica Popovic) To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Hater/Pigeonhed > Hater was released in '93. I think they took alternative music back about 4 > years and added a twist of blues. I love it. Could you tell me a bit more about this album? I've heard about it, and recently I've seen in a record store, so I'm contemplating getting a copy. What kind of music is it? A few comparisons would be nice. - -----------------------//----------------------------------+------------------ Jovica Popovic \\ // AMIGA: An Instrument for creative,| Official United jpop@mapmf.pmfst.hr \X/ free-thinking individuals among us.| Nations opinions Summary: | enforced by UN Anarchist, rocker, vegetarian, nonsmoking, drug-free Amigan| Security Council - -----------------------------------------------------------+------------------ * Q-Blue jr. * ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 09:55:18 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: blind dog To: The Garden Subject: let me drown just a short message. I read a magazine article a while back that had chris outlining what some of the songs from superunknown mean. he said that let me drown was about crawling back into the womb. sounds like subject matter that could have been on nirvana's in utero. any comments? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 20:33:17 -0400 To: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) Subject: Re: weekly ranting Cc: somms@MIT.EDU > I take it you mean in the i.e., alternative/grudge/new wave groupings and not > the rock 'N roll (heavy metal) group (which our beloved SG wants to be known > as). Because there were other bands from Seattle long before Pearl (moody) > Jam. "HEART" has been around for some time and has put out some good music. > Yes, Yes, Yes, they are headed by two females, but lets get over it. i didn't know Soundgarden wanted to be metal. If you watched last years Grammy's, you know they don't think they are. Chris made a joke about them winning best metal performance. they thought Rollins should have got it. > > >Then, the media's attraction to the alternative scene spawned such trash as > > But it also spawned groups as Alice in Chains, Mudhoneys, Tad, Mother Love > Bone, Screaming Trees, and Candlebox. AiC has been around for quite a while. Mudhoney has about 6 or 7 albums. Arm, lead singer of Mudhoney, was the lead singer of defunct Green River and sang on "Right Turn" off of AiC's Sap EP. Tad has been around for awhile, but they aren't too terribly popular. Screeming Trees could be considered pioneers along w/ Soundgarden, at least around for 10 years or so. Candlebox, why do you even care about them? And Mother Love Bone was before Pearl Jam. > > >After the departure of Kurt Cobain, his wife, Courtney Love, pushed her band > >Hole, into the marketplace. > > God, now here is a problem! I like Hole's music, but I can't stand Courtney > Love. So far she has bad mouthed SG, Pearl Jam, Candlebox, and a few other > bands from the Seattle area. She is a blemish on life. How can someone write > such great songs, then act so stupid (maybe Kurt did write her music)? some day you will ache like i ache. Repeat that a lot and get pissed off. Great song, huh? > Thanks for posting something of interest. > > Jamie expect one weekly.... - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A LimoWreck j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "This is not an exit" -Anthrax "I know you better than I know myself" -TOOL "I am the wreck of you all" -Soundgarden ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 10:48:05 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: blind dog To: The Garden Subject: chris and the trees has anyone else heard the album uncle anasthesia by the screaming trees? chris cornell had a hand in producing it, and he sings on about four songs. he also plays the recorder. when I heard it I couldn't really make out his voice, but he's pretty good on the ol' recorder :) does anyone know if the trees have a new album coming soon. it's about due, imho. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Michael Barnes To: blind dog Cc: 'somms' Subject: RE: chris and the trees Date: Wed, 30 Aug 95 18:12:00 PDT The last thing I heard is that Screaming Trees have broken up. Can anybody substantiate this? ---------- From: blind dog[SMTP:s325961@student.uq.edu.au] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 1995 10:48 AM To: The Garden Subject: chris and the trees has anyone else heard the album uncle anasthesia by the screaming trees? chris cornell had a hand in producing it, and he sings on about four songs. he also plays the recorder. when I heard it I couldn't really make out his voice, but he's pretty good on the ol' recorder :) does anyone know if the trees have a new album coming soon. it's about due, imho. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 21:39:35 EDT From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: (fwd) weekly ranting To: somms@MIT.EDU Comments on weekly ranting >this is my weekly ranting. >The state of alternative music is growing sicker. One of the first big bands to >make it big was Seattle's Pearl Jam. "Ten", their first release, was raw, full >of energy, and spontaneous. As their careers have continued, their music has >gotten more processed, and Vedder's lyrics seem to be manufactured, like their >has to be a meaning. It seems that they have made a job out of something that >should be fun. And for three albums, they have had 4 drummers (or 3). I dispite not being a pearl jam fan in the least, could appreciate the artistry of the ten album. It was a decent album although I personally did not like it. Vs seemed to be an attempt to capture the "old magic" in other words they basically followed along the same lines and rehashed a ten into a new cd worth of crap. I cannot identify any of the songs individually but I cannot tell which album they came from. If I heard a soundgarden song I could tell if it was Badmotorfinger, Louder, Superunk if I could not tell the songs apart but I could still tell that it was soundgarden. I think they rushed there last album, there guitarist was sick and played terribly he even admitted it. "I am surprised they did not throw me out of the band" If they were true artists they should have waited untill he was better. I cannot imagine Chris and Kim going ahead and recording album just to release it as soon as possible if any one of them could not perform at 100%. Matt said in an interview that Chris and Kim spent days trying to tune there guitars right in an effort to get the desired sound which they wnated to produce. I think that pearl Jam was looking for a quick buck with vitalogy. You cannot fight ticketmaster if your not touring with new stuff, no one would care if they were waiting for mike to get better. >Then, the media's attraction to the alternative scene spawned such trash as >Dead Eye Dick's "New Age Girl" and is now producing Tripping Daisys' "I got a >girl". (notice a recurring theme?) Do not forget Live, Collective soul, weezer etc etc. Every fucking band that comes out is fucking alternative, now. Most of thease bands suck shit and have nothing to say, and are terrible musicians. I could play drums better than that schmuck in weezer and I am just trying to get around to learn to play guitar let alone anything else. I used to like the whole alternative music idea, an "alternative" to premanufactured pop actual real music created by real artists. Now the whole fucking thing is making me sick. I can barely enjoy anything called alternative now. >After the departure of Kurt Cobain, his wife, Courtney Love, pushed her band >Hole, into the marketplace. Love used her new found popularity as the widow of >Cobain to get airplay, interviews, and popularity. Her band has already lost >one member to Heroine and Love is constantly bitching because some one else >gets more attention than she does at Hole's concerts. >Nirvana drummer Dave Grohl is now guitarist/singer for the Foo Fighters. Thus >far, they have managed to prosper without any backlash of his Nirvana >popularity. A brightspot in Seattle. Someone needs to smack her, she is goodsong writer: "Violet", "Doll Parts" "someday you will ache like I ache" She is basically an out of control bitch(excuse, mon francais) hole could be band if she wasn't insane. Besides I think she wants to sell out but she is failing. Anyone who would ripp on soundgarden and alice in chains for not being able to write a catchy song has got to have a few screws loose. >Good things: >Hum, heavy guitars in a dreamy setting. >Filter, anyone got tour dates? >Primus, somebody liked them a lot. >Paw, their first album, "Dragline", was a lot better. additional good things Mad Season, bluesy rock when combined with Laynes depressing vocals Belly, Abstract at times and thought provoking Bjork, From the Abstract to the Bizzare a multi-talented multi-dimensional artist with an incredible voice. Seal, one of the few men on earth that can write poetic lyrics on par with chris. (Ignore that top ten shit, kiss from a rose is one of his worst songs, but it's still far superior than anything else on the charts, about time talent got rewarded.) >It's nice to see Soundgarden back out on the road. Sponge is touring w/ them >right now in Europe. Maybe soon we will know their exact plans for a new >release: live or studio. Both have been mentioned many times. I'd rather see >them release a live video as it is tradition for them so far and work on >another studio release. >Thanks for listening, - -- >Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A LimoWreck >j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu >http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html >"This is not an exit" -Anthrax >"I know you better than I know myself" -TOOL >"I am the wreck of you all" -Soundgarden This is my addition to jeremy's rantings, I guess it's rantings and ravings now. Sorry this was so long but we all know I am just a clown. Clown With Bazooka ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 13:08:12 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: blind dog To: Michael Barnes Cc: "'somms'" Subject: RE: chris and the trees On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Michael Barnes wrote: > > The last thing I heard is that Screaming Trees have broken up. Can > anybody substantiate this? where did you hear that? they played a bunch of festivals here in australia in january of this year. also, I don't think there was much friction between mark lanegan and barrett martin when the mad season record was done (which you would think there might be, between two members of a split band). the last I heard was that they had an album coming out before the end of the year. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 14:34:51 +1000 To: somms@MIT.EDU From: Carolyn Subject: Re: rantings & ravings At 09:39 PM 30/08/95 EDT, ClownWithBazooka wrote: > Every fucking band > that comes out is fucking alternative, now. Most of thease bands suck shit > and have nothing to say, and are terrible musicians. I could play drums > better than that schmuck in weezer and I am just trying to get around to > learn to play guitar let alone anything else. I used to like the whole > alternative music idea, an "alternative" to premanufactured pop actual > real music created by real artists. Now the whole fucking thing is making > me sick. I can barely enjoy anything called alternative now. Yeah, know what you mean. 10 years ago I called myself an 'alternative' band listener. Back then alternative meant NOT the 'nice, pretty teeney-bopper' stuff that gets thrashed on the radio day after day and all the mindless people go out and buy music from those bands just because they think "well the radio plays it and it's in the Top Ten charts so it must be good". The music I liked most other people hadn't heard of! That's why I joined this soundgarden list - most of the average everyday people down the street wouldn't know them. But I s'pose nowadays it's trendy to be into 'alternative' which is a pretty scary thought. > This is my addition to jeremy's rantings, I guess it's rantings and > ravings now. Sorry this was so long but we all know I am just a clown. > Clown With Bazooka Yeah, we know, Clown. see ya. Carolyn Australian Music Freak ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Feel the rhythm with your hands - steal the rhythm while you can" - Spoonman "And my youth I pray to keep" - Black Hole Sun ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 31] ***************************************