From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 6 Oct 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Fri, 06 Oct 1995 00:15:24 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Friday, 6 Oct 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://web.mit.edu/saperl/sg/archive/archive.html Today's Topics: Guess what I'm listening to now? hello to the Aussies Re: SG Office Bods Re: SMILE folks!! :-> are they watching us? Re: Opinions on opinions Re: SG Office Bods Re: is CC Jesus' twin? Guitars on Superunknown Re: are they watching us? Re: ?Donde estamos? -Reply Opinions on opinions -Reply mouthful of cotton art gallery -Reply F Re: FREE THE JUICE!!! Re: mouthful of cotton Why I'm on this list... -Reply Re: are they watching us? -Reply mouthful of cotton -Reply Re: mouthful of cotton -Reply Pictures ?????? Re:Kim Is Asian Re: Opinions on opinions Re: Soundgarden - Gay Friendly? Re: is CC Jesus' twin? Soundgarden at Ireland's Sunstroke Festival Re: My Story Re: Opinions on opinions a list milestone Re: jamie gathers no moss... Re: a list milestone Screaming Elf Hi AGAIN Re: Hi AGAIN I'm going home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Something different. Re: SG Office Bods Chris Cornell on the guitar Re: Something different. heres your answer Sorry !!!!! The Cause Member Directory Re: The Cause suggestions, trading, lyrics Re: heres your answer Hola mi amigos! Ahem VERY well said, David, whoever you are!! Re: photos Re: She Likes Surprises / Australia Re: Funny YOU should say THAT, MD!! Re: I'm being followed by a druid... Re: is CC Jesus' twin? Re: suggestions, trading, lyrics Chris Too Old? Re: mouthful of cotton Re: Heh heh heh...FREE THE JUICE!!! List Members Dir. chris=jesus Concert Perceptions Re: chris=jesus Welcome to new SG list members. Mature music? Something better. Re: Something better. Re: suggestions, trading, lyrics Re: photos AIC Release Date Re: Hi AGAIN The New Flame Rule... ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Guess what I'm listening to now? NO! NOT Soundgarden. Instead, I'm listening to that band that some of you love to hate (Little Joe), and others of you hate to love (Avatar, Greendoc), and still others of you admire them for having done what they've done (Jackhammer, Jamie)... Silverchair's "Findaway". Me, I like 'em. We've been through all the rip-off debates before, so I'm not buying into that again (other than to say none of the Silverchair members even OWN a Nirvana album, and never really liked them that much - they far prefer Helmet & Tool & Soundgarden [yes SOUNDGARDEN] and shit, a person can't help the way they look, or sound........). Anyway, why would I be mentioning "Findaway"??? No reason really, other than it reminded me to tell you all that I am actually going to see Silverchair in Adelaide on 26 October. This is exciting for this little country girl, because I rarely get a chance to see a "big" live band these days............ Other than the fact that I like Silverchair's album 'Frogstomp', I have no definite opinion of them one way or the other. I guess I'll have a little more insight at the end of this month. Yippee!! Keep smiling, groovers ~ Carolyn the Macabre Fox ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When I hand my love in I'll be done Save it, just keep it off my wave And my youth I pray to keep **SOUNDGARDEN** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: hello to the Aussies Isn't it cool to think that we down here are all awake AT THIS VERY MOMENT posting away to the list, while all the others in the northern hemisphere are snoring their little asses off?? Wow it can be quiet in the afternoons when the non-Aussies are tucked away safely in their beds..................... Just wanted to say hello to you all - in particular Blind Dog, Little Joe, Jackhammer & RICH. Enjoy your afternoon!! :-) Carolyn the mf from Mount Gambier, SA ------------------------------ From: "Michael V. Ledesma" Subject: Re: SG Office Bods Daniel, Jamie, Liesl: Yeah, I kinda relate to what you're experiencing at work. It's actually the same here..ppl here think my music is NOISE...they say that's not music it's NOISE..I too am sorrounded by Pop oriented people who think Whitney Houston is God!! Sheeeesssh....at least anyway..I bring my CD (with headphones..due to their advice) and blow my eardrums away..so this list was a real relief! It keeps me one step away from insanity...plus the idea of being sorrounded with people who have (almost) the same musical inclinations as I do...kinda makes me feel... AT Home.. Mayk Ledesma ------------------------------ From: Benjamin Jon Macqueen Subject: Re: SMILE folks!! :-> Howdy Carolyn, I hope your feeling better. Thanks for bringing some good vibes to the group! By the way, which part of Oz do you reside in? Cheers - -Ben..... - -s9511466@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au p.s. what the heck does factotum (was that the word?) meaan? ------------------------------ From: Benjamin Jon Macqueen Subject: are they watching us? Howdy, I read something on the PJ mailing list that I used to be on and I just wondered if anyone here had thought if the guys in the band look in on ours, or any other SG list? If I was in their position (which I am obviously not because if I was I would be writing about myself but that's beside the point) I wouldn't mind having a look. Just thought I'd ask Cheers - -Ben..... - -s9511466@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: Re: Opinions on opinions On Wed, 4 Oct 1995 gstanway@you.wincom.net wrote: > Do I feel that my opinion is more 'important' than that of Chris Cornell?? No. > No more so than I feel Cornell's opinion is more 'important' than mine. What I > mean to say is that you can't place a level of importance on what someone > thinks... they're thoughts. You can't rate them. Everyone has something to say, > and they have the right to think what they wish: it's a fact of life. > Chris isn't more "important" because he's the lead singer/rhythm guitarist of > Soundgarden, a "superstar" rock quartet. He's just a man. So is Matt. So is the whole shebang seemed to start when stacey and I had our little barbecue early on. he was arguing that his opinion is just as important as chris cornell's. that's all well and good, but fails miserably when read in the context of the first couple of letters. stacey seemed to be arguing that it was pointless to talk about soundgarden lyrics here on the list (correct me if I'm wrong stacey). it may have been in reply to my earlier posting that outlined what the meaning of a song was for chris cornell. now I personally think that that is a fair enough way to go about responding to a lyric question, but stacey seemed to take offence, and went on to bag a bunch of people on the list. most important of all, he said that his opinion was equal with that of chris'. I just have to disagree. in the context of lyrical content, ie: what soundgarden songs are actually about, stacey's opinion is *not* more important, or even as important, as chris'. this is not a flame. I'm just reminding everyone that this roast up came from stacey taking a thread out of context, and shaping it so he could turn it into some sort of wrestling match with the rest of the group. someone simply wanted to know what songs like limo wreck and fourth of july were about. it wasn't a question of what a song means to different people. so if someone can argue why chris cornell's opinion (delete opinion and insert *knowledge*) is only of equal importance in relation to lyrical content, meaning, significance and origin with anyone else's, then I'd be happy to hear from you. my address is at the top of the letter. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: Re: SG Office Bods I think you would never expect the kind of support that Seattle bands are getting here in Mexico. All my friends at school love SG, PJ, AIC, and Nirvana. I think this is because Mexican bands (GOOD bands I mean) don't get much support from the TV; radio stations do open some space for them but they frequently mix their music with this 80's kind of cheap singers. As a result, people who want to listen to REAL music must tune to those stations broadcasting music in English. URBANO ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: Re: is CC Jesus' twin? On Thu, 5 Oct 1995, Benjamin Jon Macqueen wrote: > Howdy, I know this may sound a tad pointless but I was just sitting at my > computer, trying extremely unsuccessfully to finish an essay that was due > in 2 days ago when a thought popped into my head. Does anyone think that > Chris looks a tad like Jesus, (yes, that's right, the Son of God and all > that jazz) on the inside of the Badmotorfinger cover? I'm not implying > that CC is God's nephew or anything (but he could be a distant cousin), > but I just thought it was interesting. > > Cheers > -Ben..... > -s9511466@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au > > p.s.-I hope I didn't offend any Christians on the list!? > would that mean that he is also related to ted nugent? god knows what freak of evolutionary mishappening made the motor city mad man look like he wiped his face on the shroud of turin, but hey, the pope must be an sg fan. ------------------------------ From: gstanway@you.wincom.net Subject: Guitars on Superunknown Okay... via Guitar for the Practicing Musician magazine, here is a list of the equipment used by Chris and Kim on Superunknown, since a few of you have been curious about it: Chris: Guitars: Gretsch Duo Jet, Gretsch Silver Jet, Gibson ES125, Gibson Les Paul (own one myself.. Chris, my man!), Fender Jazzmaster, Fender Stratocaster Amps, etc.: Mesa amplifiers and cabinets, Celestion speakers Effects: Leslie cabinet (for "keyboard" effect on Black Hole Sun) Kim: Guitars: Guild S-100, 1956 Fender Telecaster (had one of these for a while.. nice!), Gibson Firebird Amps, etc.: Peavey VTM-120, Mesa 100-watt Dual Rectifier Solo heads Effects: Vox wah pedal, DOD FX-10 BiFET preamp, Boss CE-2 Chorus pedal; two switches (foot activated, I presume) for clean/distortion and Modern/Vintage settings on the Mesa Other: Samson wireless system Hope that was helpful or interesting. Glenn :) ------------------------------ From: mm328995@minmet.uq.oz.au (John Grieves) Subject: Re: are they watching us? At 03:31 PM 10/5/95 +1000, Benjamin Jon Macqueen wrote: >Howdy, I read something on the PJ mailing list that I used to be on and I >just wondered if anyone here had thought if the guys in the band look in >on ours, or any other SG list? If I was in their position (which I am >obviously not because if I was I would be writing about myself but that's >beside the point) I wouldn't mind having a look. > If they are, I bet they're cackling themselves about us. Many "stars" don't see themselves as that far removed from the rest of the world and find it amusing/curious/scary/worrying that they are idolised. Funny world we live in... Jackhammer. ------------------------------ From: Daniel Ladle Subject: Re: ?Donde estamos? -Reply Dear Seth, Give us all a couple of years to save for the flight and we will be happy to come for a GATHERING. Dan ------------------------------ From: Daniel Ladle Subject: Opinions on opinions -Reply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi friends and foes (hopefully, I don't have many foes... :) )... Hate to bother everyone again, but I had to mention something that's been bothering me. In the wake of the mushroom cloud hovering above Stacy.Meyrick's head from the severe beating we've all been laying on him, I've noticed people trying to say that some people's opinions are more or less important than others. Nothing could be further from the truth. Do I feel that my opinion is more 'important' than that of Chris Cornell?? No. No more so than I feel Cornell's opinion is more 'important' than mine. What I mean to say is that you can't place a level of importance on what someone thinks... they're thoughts. You can't rate them. Everyone has something to say, and they have the right to think what they wish: it's a fact of life. Chris isn't more "important" because he's the lead singer/rhythm guitarist of Soundgarden, a "superstar" rock quartet. He's just a man. So is Matt. So is Ben. And so is Kim (sex change...hahahaha! :) ). I'm a man, too, and my opinion can carry just as much weight as Mr. Cornell's. And I'm sure Chris would agree with me. Thanks for listening, Glenn <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< So are you saying that your ideas are more important than any womans opinions then?????? Dan ------------------------------ From: dgarrett@bcs.org.uk (Daniel Garrett) Subject: mouthful of cotton > > does anyone know exactly what chris sings in the bridge just > before the final chorus on spoonman? is it 'come on, like it all'? or > am I a complete scuma who can't understand totally clear lyrics? it's > just that that particular bit is the hardest to understand from > superunknown for me. > > ----------------------------------- > a thousand doors, a thousand lies > rooms a thousand years wide > ----------------------------------- > > > I always thought it was "come on, knock it off", at least thats what I sing along to it!! Daniel Garrett ------------------------------ From: Daniel Ladle Subject: art gallery -Reply Dear all, Well, I hope you dont all think that my pictures a bit cack, but then it did only take me a couple of lunchtimes to create. As for a picture of me, I am just developing some photos that my girlfriend took last night and will be scanning them in a week or so's time. Who else is sending a picture (hopefully you are Jamie (sorry, don't mean to be eliteist)) It will be good to finally see who I am chatting with. Finally thank you all, I did say the other week that you had all inspired me and last night I finished my first ever song about my hampster which escaped a few weeks ago and got into the wall cavity of our house (don't worry she got out again after we had a brick removed from one of our downstairs walls). The song is called CAVITY and if you ever see it on a CD then check the names of the band members, and tell your friends that "he couldnt of done it without us" Thankyou one and all Love from Dan ------------------------------ From: Daniel Garrett Subject:  F > > I also want to say, that I too, own both the Stone Temple Pilot albums > and I think they're quite impressive. I don't really care that they > might just sound like somebody else, I've not actually noticed this > myself, but let's face it, how many songs have you heard that sound > like others? I don't consider anything to be original, just the > collaboration of many influences moulded into one, and they're usually > very distintive, as is possibly the case here. Songs like "Creep" and > "Sex Type Thing" I consider very interesting songs, and if anyone's > heard "Kitchenware & Candy Bars" or "Big Empty" from the second album > I'm sure it might change a few opinion. As for Steven Russel Jr.'s > comment, it might just be easier to say "I don't like them" because > "NO talent copycat rip off artists" is somewhat unfair, if you're > gonna say something like that, then you really do need to justify it. > > Did anybody go to the Reading festival? My friends just got back and > she said Soundgarden were very "average". It seemed like they just > turned up, played because they had to, and left. Did anybody else > think this? > > I don't consider myself abusive Little Joe, just someone capable of > opinion and willing to voice it, if you don't like it, you don't have > to read my mail. Like somebody said, I know I can't get my face on the > cover of Rolling Stone, believe me, I've tried, but does that mean my > opinion is any less than someone who might get in there? I mean after > all, why should fame make an opinion more important than another. The > points I make I consider valid, because you don't agree with them > doesn't make it invalid, somebody DID actually agree with my > "Seattle Top 10" comment, so how invalid is it now? If you don't > agree, say so, but please don't make a statement for everyone else on > this list. > > Oh yeah, and to set the record straight, it's Mr. > > > > I tend to agree with you about STP, they are one of my favourite bands, at first I thought they WERE a rip-off, songs on Core like Creep (Nirvana) Peice of Pie (Alice in Chains) and Plush (Pearl Jam) do leave alot to be desired in terms of originality, but the key thing is the SONGS whatever you say about them it can't be denied that they are great songwriters and Purple proves this and also goes a long way to dispel the rip-off jibes as they have now found their own sound in the Grunge genre, who's to say they were'nt playing this style of music long before the Seattle scene blew up. I think it's fakers like Silverchair, Offspring and Bush that should really be getting slated. As for Reading 95 and SG's performance I think i've said at least twice in previous posts that SG were a massive let-down, it's the first time i'd seen them and I was waiting all weekend but it was a terrible anti-climax. They looked like they just came to take the money and run. I dunno why they cancelled last year cos' of CC's voice as it sounded pretty ragged this year. They had no charisma, power, sense of occasion, nothing, in fact the best thing about them was CC's cheeky grin as he first came onto the stage and said hallo. Still everyone has off-days, i'll give em' the benefit of the doubt and wait till they come back next year. Daniel Garrett ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: Re: FREE THE JUICE!!! You want a SG tune that's dark, cynical, and full of rage? The O.J. thing would be a great subject! Heck, if they can write about Ty Cobb, why not O.J. too? ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: Re: mouthful of cotton > does anyone know exactly what chris sings in the bridge just > before the final chorus on spoonman? is it 'come on, like it all'? or > am I a complete scuma who can't understand totally clear lyrics? it's > just that that particular bit is the hardest to understand from > superunknown for me. > > ----------------------------------- > a thousand doors, a thousand lies > rooms a thousand years wide > ----------------------------------- > Maybe "come on while I get off" I don't know. I probably deaf... Greg ****************************************** *** Sieze the day. *** *** Pull the trigger. Drop the blade. *** *** And watch the rolling heads. *** ****************************************** *** greg@sfa.com *** ****************************************** ------------------------------ From: Daniel Ladle Subject: Why I'm on this list... -Reply So you have just decided to send like about eight million posts all one after another, Isn't that a bit over the top. Dan ------------------------------ From: Daniel Ladle Subject: Re: are they watching us? -Reply Soundgarden probably aren't WATCHING us as a month or so ago we got a letter from the guy who actually writes the reply's from the real SG page (not half as good as our Seths attempt may I add), and said that they only rarely look in on that one and even more rarely answer letters themselves. Shame really or we could find out some incredibly usefull pieces of information to surprise our friends with. Dan ------------------------------ From: Daniel Ladle Subject: mouthful of cotton -Reply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > does anyone know exactly what chris sings in the bridge just > before the final chorus on spoonman? is it 'come on, like it all'? or > am I a complete scuma who can't understand totally clear lyrics? it's > just that that particular bit is the hardest to understand from > superunknown for me. > > ----------------------------------- > a thousand doors, a thousand lies > rooms a thousand years wide > - ----------------------------------- > > > I always thought it was "come on, knock it off", at least thats what I sing along to it!! Daniel Garrett <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< I believe it's "Come on while I get off" Dan ------------------------------ From: LAsiu@mojo.europe.dg.com (Liesl A Asiu) Subject: Re: mouthful of cotton -Reply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > does anyone know exactly what chris sings in the bridge just >> before the final chorus on spoonman? is it 'come on, like it all'? or > >am I a complete scuma who can't understand totally clear lyrics? it's > >just that that particular bit is the hardest to understand from > >superunknown for me. >> > ----------------------------------- >> a thousand doors, a thousand lies >> rooms a thousand years wide > >----------------------------------- >> > > > >I always thought it was "come on, knock it off", at least thats what I sing > along to it!! > Daniel Garrett > ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<< >I believe it's "Come on while I get off" > > Dan > I thought it was just..... "come on, get it on" It's amazing the way your hearing is affected by the way you think..... Dan, what does that say about you? Liesl ------------------------------ Subject: Pictures ?????? From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) Okay my pretties, If you all remember I was one of the few who said I already knew what all of you looked like - I'll refresh your memories - Men: fine handsome Women: beautiful. I did not think it was necessary to place my image out there for you to know me. Read my posting - that should scare you enough. But, I keep getting these little hints about placing my self out there for you to goggle at. Well you are in good company, my family and love ones have been trying for years for me to have my picture taken (I usually hold the camera at family events). My sister keeps asking me what will they put on the side of the milk carton when I'm kidnapped by little green men from outer space. And what would channel 4 put on the 10:00 news when I maze someone for trying to take my Jeep. Like another member of this list the only picture I have is the DMV (driver license) photo (shutter). Now we all know that no one every looks like their DMV. How else to do you think we been able to fake our ID's all these years. No one look that bad!!!!!!! Well, fine -- before my next birthday I will have a picture taken -- I will then pass it to fearless leader and you can all rid your computers of those nasty bugs. Now if you just knew when my next birthday was?????? I know none of you know that little fact about me. Luv you guys Jamie PS: There is also a small problem with work related stuff - security, firewall, company policy - that has to be looked at before I can send anything. ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: Re:Kim Is Asian >I thought Kim was Indian (as in East...) >Am I wrong? Pls. let me know. > >Happy SG day! > >MB >>Uhh..Last time I checked, India was in the continent of Asia, and Indians were >>considered Asians. :-) BTW, read the recent article about Kim that I posted. >>It's on the SG web page. Actually acording to sociologists, who do all the race catagorizing, People from the indian subcontinent are considered Caucasian. Anyway this is a silly conversation topic. How about Kim is a great Musician. Thats all that really counts. Color Blind Clown >>Vasant - -- >>Vasant Ramamurthy >>vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu >>Vasant.Ramamurthy@launchpad.unc.edu >>Check out http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html !! >>"Evenflow, thoughts arrive like butterflies" -Evenflow-Pearl Jam - --KAA13695.812903253/ns4-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU-- ------------------------------ From: The Back Door Man Subject: Re: Opinions on opinions On Thu, 5 Oct 1995, blind dog wrote: > so if someone can argue why chris cornell's opinion (delete > opinion and insert *knowledge*) is only of equal importance in relation > to lyrical content, meaning, significance and origin with anyone else's, > then I'd be happy to hear from you. > I think what Blind Dog is trying to say is that when it comes to music, no one's opinion is more important than the person who wrote, recorded and performed it. After all, he (CC) is the only one who knows for sure what it's REALLY about. That's what I think. BDM "'Cause I heard it in the wind and I saw it in the sky. And I thought it was the end and I thought it was the 4th of July." --C. Cornell ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Soundgarden - Gay Friendly? From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >Yes, yes. I'll go so far as to say that some of us actually appreciate a >little sexual ambiguity in our bands. It's rare to find a band that's >comfortable enough to be blatantly queer-positive (like, for example, Pansy >Division). Considering the potential impact on their financial success, >I can't really say that I blame them. But we FOD's take what we can >get. And I'm pleased that SG doesn't always sing blatantly straight >material. Am I the only one, or is "Big Dumb Sex" more than just a >little gay-friendly? First - Welcome Scott...... Now does it really matter if a band is sexual ambiguity or not (love how that rolls out your mouth - ambiguity)? Good music is good music and we all know that SG makes good music. The "Rock Star" image has always been - I'm middle of the road, but I could jump to either side in a heart beat. Case in point David Bowie, Janis Joplin, the singer in REM (Michael ??? can remember right now - I will as soon as I send this out). We were never told out right that they were gay or not (really none of our business) - but didn't it just adds more color to the artist. As for the Big Dumb Sex being on the gay side - I have been told this before and I just can't see it. Maybe it's because I'm a women and to have Cornell say these thing to me - - - well we all get the idea. I guess I'll just have to ask one of my gay friends to listen to the song and tell me their opinion. I do like Melissa Etheridge and her sexual preference is of no concern to me. She has a powerful voice and her music can be interpreted as either gay or straight, male or female. Her new video - something about Little Secret - not sure on that only have seen the video once - check it out, if you thought "Your the Only One" was racy - wait till you see this one. Jamie ------------------------------ From: LAsiu@mojo.europe.dg.com (Liesl A Asiu) Subject: Re: is CC Jesus' twin? Ben, it's interesting that you should say this, expecially when we have no idea what Jesus really looked like - if you tell me he looks.... oh so very slightly, like a young bearded Robert Powell, then I say yes maybe. I just think he is very gorgeous and has a great body - unlike alot of guys in the business who look either like starving junkies or bleached-blond narcissists. Wish he still had his long hair, but that just a pet turn-on of mine. Liesl >Howdy, I know this may sound a tad pointless but I was just sitting at my >computer, trying extremely unsuccessfully to finish an essay that was due >in 2 days ago when a thought popped into my head. Does anyone think that >Chris looks a tad like Jesus, (yes, that's right, the Son of God and all >that jazz) on the inside of the Badmotorfinger cover? I'm not implying >that CC is God's nephew or anything (but he could be a distant cousin), >but I just thought it was interesting. > >Cheers >-Ben..... >-s9511466@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au > >p.s.-I hope I didn't offend any Christians on the list!? > > ------------------------------ From: Baldrick2@aol.com Subject: Soundgarden at Ireland's Sunstroke Festival My apologies if you all have this info already, but I rarely post anything...and I haven't had time to catch up on the SG Digest for over a week. Rolling Stone did an entire page on the Reading Festival in this months issue...with barely even a mention of Soundgarden, BUT they did have a new photo of Chris with a short note on Soundgarden, at Ireland's Sunstroke Festival: "After canceling the European leg of last year's tour because of CC's strained vocal cords, Soundgarden finished the job at Ireland's Sunstroke festival, with two new songs: 'Flies' and 'Ty Cobb'. An LP is due next spring." For everyone who asked me for info on ordering back-issues of Rolling Stone (June 1994 and the year end issue Dec./Jan. 94-95), with SG and CC interviews...if you weren't able to get them through Rolling Stone or PJ STARR, you can always go into the "Rolling Stone archives" to read the articles (I don't know if photos are available). I don't have any other info or addresses, so please E-mail Rolling Stone Magazine DIRECTLY for more info on how to get into the archives: 76702.2705@compuserve.com OR rollingstone@echonyc.com ------------------------------ Subject: Re: My Story From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >I KNOW I KNOW I'M A TOTAL IDIOT FOR PASSING UP SUCH A GREAT CHANCE! I'M >STILL KICKING MYSELF FOR NOT SAYING ANYTHING TO CHRIS AND KIM! ARG! >I'll always remember that day though.. "The Day I Shared A Sidewalk With >Soundgarden Just Before I Saw Them Play And Totally Rock The House And >Damn I Was Too Chickenshit To Say Anything To Chris And Kim (SIGH)." >p.s. Did anyone like the reference to the Golden Girls at the beginning? >I love that show.. >-Foreshocks Funny how one's brain and feet stop working when confronted with someone that really matters in your life. I'm sure your lovely village idiot here would be very uncool if confronted with any member of Soundgarden. I had the great honor of sitting in a rock star dressing room and talking to him for over an hour. This rocker was the greatest guitar player of all time in my eyes. When I look back on the experience - I shutter - I asked the most stupidest question and most of the time just sat there starry eyed. But oh what a lovely memory I have!!!!!! Jamie ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Opinions on opinions From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >Hi friends and foes (hopefully, I don't have many foes... :) )... >Hate to bother everyone again, but I had to mention something that's been >bothering me. In the wake of the mushroom cloud hovering above Stacy.Meyrick's >head from the severe beating we've all been laying on him, I've noticed people >trying to say that some people's opinions are more or less important than >others. Nothing could be further from the truth. >.................. >Thanks for listening, >Glenn Very well put - Jamie << *** >> ------------------------------ Subject: a list milestone From: seth We now have 300 subscribers. Thanks everyone. seth (listadmin) ------------------------------ Subject: Re: jamie gathers no moss... From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >> > sounds more like a pantera or white zombie song :) do you think >> >they might pick this song up next year as the promo to the new baseball >> >season? and I wonder who from the band is the stock car and baseball fan? >> Kim is the baseball nut - and Ben is the car freak. But that's just info from mag rags - so I'm not 100% sure. Blind Dog: The cover of Rolling Stones has Red Hot Chilies on it. This issue features back to college information - there a fairly good article on the Internet and new college students. Jamie ------------------------------ Subject: Re: a list milestone From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >We now have 300 subscribers. Thanks everyone. > >seth (listadmin) > > Damn - don't everyone post at once - we could have one big traffic jam on the information highway.... But on the other hand it may be fun to see the cyper(fuz) trying to catch us. Jamie PS: One big standing ovation for our Listadmin - you deserve it Seth..... ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Screaming Elf My eye tells me the 'screaming elf' is a distorted picture of Chris. Blind Dog -- I'll be straining to see the band photo on the cover. Thanks for the unexpected info. Vikki ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Re: Superunknown Cover Greg Bensimon wrote: Just wodering... > What is the significance of the cover art for Superunknown? To look at it > right side up, you see the "Screaming Elf" image (or whatever, forgive my > ignorance). Turn it upside down, and you see the silhouette of a forest > against a white sky, with flames(?) burning below. I'll have a go for you greg. the picture on the front of superunknown is a twofold sorta thing. the big one is the band picture. it didn't strike me first off as a picture of four guys, but if you look a little closer (took me a *long* time :), everyone from the band is there. with the forest fire at the bottom, I read that chris felt that everyone else thought that the mental image of soundgarden was a nice, pretty place with lovely blossoming flowers and beautiful colours everywhere (that's not my mental image. I think of scorched earth). so just to set everybody straight, they put that forest fire picture at the bottom. I also have to admit that I didn't see the upside down stuff straight away either :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: foreshocks@bbs.cowland.com Subject: Hi AGAIN Did anyone else happen to back order the September 1992 Chris Cornell cover issue of SPIN? I did in August, and I still haven't gotten it yet... hmmm... - -=*< your design leaves no ground >*=- ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Hi AGAIN From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >Did anyone else happen to back order the September 1992 Chris Cornell >cover issue of SPIN? I did in August, and I still haven't gotten it >yet... hmmm... I had ordered this issue back in the spring and it did take over a month or more to get to me. They are just slow in filling their orders. They are also late in getting the mag out to subscriber before it hits the racks in stores. Jamie ------------------------------ From: Sara Louise Hoeck (Sara Hoeck) Subject: I'm going home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HI! No this isn't another unsubscribe message, in fact, quite the opposite. This list is cool so far, and everyone is really friendly. Anyway, to get on with what I am posting for, I just wanted to say that I don't really care who copied who. Who came first, Pearl Jam, STP, or any other bands? Does it really matter? If you like the music, listen to it. If you don't likeit, don't listen to it. Personally, I've only heard a couple of Silverchair's songs,( but my boyfriend just bought the cd, so I'm sure that I will here more) and i hardly ever listen to Stone Temple Pilots, or Pearl Jam. That's not to say that I don't like them, just that I don't really have time to. Which reminds me, when was the last time I listened to Soundgarden? Maybe I should go do that. Or my homework. Whichever comes first. (SG, of course). Well, have a nice night and don't miss me to much this weekend cause I am going home!!!! Please, don't crowd my mailbox. I"ll get back and have like 200 messages. Anyway, I'll talk to you on Monday. Don't miss me too much!! (I'm sure no one will cause no one knows who I am. ) Bye. -Sara P.S. Thanks to Ben and Glenn and Jamie who have all been really nice to me so far, and haven't flamed me even though I don't know what the hel l I'm doing. ------------------------------ From: The Back Door Man Subject: Something different. OK. This is a blatant attempt to break the animosity on this list, and a silly one at that. I don't know why I thought of this, and I'm sure you don't either. Anyways, here goes: If Soundgarden and Kelloggs teamed up to market a Soundgarden breakfast cereal, what would it be like? Some things to think about: *Wheat flakes or puffed corn? *Shape(s)? *Marshmallows? Fruit? Nuts? Chopped steak? *Whose picture on the box? *Prize inside (perhaps a rare import)? What do you guys think? No flames, PLEASE! BDM "'Cause I heard it in the wind and I saw it in the sky. And I thought it was the end and I thought it was the 4th of July." --C. Cornell ------------------------------ Subject: Re: SG Office Bods From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >Daniel, Jamie, Liesl: > > Yeah, I kinda relate to what you're experiencing at work. It's >actually the same here..ppl here think my music is NOISE...they say >that's not music it's NOISE..I too am sorrounded by Pop oriented people >who think Whitney Houston is God!! Sheeeesssh....at least anyway..I bring >my CD (with headphones..due to their advice) and blow my eardrums >away..so this list was a real relief! It keeps me one step away from >insanity...plus the idea of being sorrounded with people who have (almost) >the same musical inclinations as I do...kinda makes me feel... AT Home.. > > >Mayk Ledesma I have gotten so many message like yours. Maybe SG freaks get drawn into normal life settings - we are put there to annoy the rest of the world. Now, I think the band (especial Chris) would like that. There is some (super)unknow cause and effect thing happening where every work place, every school, everywhere the pop lovers congregate - we appear. If our numbers keep growing - - - who knows today a small town is taken over - tomorrow the world YES YES YES. Okay I'm all right now - it's been a hard day - I'm going to be just fine (where is my medication). SG freaks of the world unite - is anyone else hungry for pickles or is it just me. Jamie ------------------------------ From: Samuel Anderson Subject: Chris Cornell on the guitar Hello: I'm not sure if I'm doing this right (I'm new here), but I'll throw out some questions regardless. How good is Chris Cornell at guitar? I've seen the Badmotorvision video, so I know that he can play the intro to "Rusty Cage" as well as power chords and all the basic stuff (I loved his solo version of "Mind Riot"), but I'm sure that he's improved by now (he wrote some pretty tough songs for SuperUnknown). Was that him playing guitar on "Seasons"? If so, that's impressive. I'd like to hear back from someone who knows about guitar playing. Thanks, Sam Anderson p.s. - For anyone that cares, I saw Radiohead in concert not too long ago; Thom the singer was an incredible guitar player (not to mention singer). ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Something different. From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >If Soundgarden and Kelloggs teamed up to market a Soundgarden breakfast >cereal, what would it be like? >BDM This is definitely good - can't wait to get this feed back - I'm despaired for fun junk. Here's mine: Type of cereal - No, flakes our boys would never be flakes and they wouldn't be corny - so Sugar Pops sweet - filled with air (hot for our guys) - never go limp (won't touch that one) in milk and no nutrition value - just good (I like Sugar Pops so don't run them down) Shape - Pops are round - okay are guys are well rounded - right. Other Ing. - Marshmallows Naaaa - no softy in the band Fruit - just their fans Nuts - I guess that's us again - but, I wonder about Ben at times? Chopped steak - Hell yes - thick and rare - the cow still screaming (I have just lost the veggie lovers respect - right) Picture - Chris - but only if it is a still from Motorvision - the part where Chris is looking in the camera and all you see is his mouth wide open exposing everything (most unflattering but good for a cereal box that sits on you table early in the morning - great for dieters). Prize - a plastic copy of Chris's fork a miniature of Matts drum stick (only one - you have to buy another box to get the other one - and then hope it's one with the other stick in it) a can of beer (empty - you don't think Kim would hand over a full one) Ben - a book on How to cope with back strain Well, how's that - not want you wanted - to bad. Breakfast is the only meal I eat and if I want to have SG as my only meal than the above is what I want... Jamie OK - you all know the signs - my blood sugar has drop and I'm tired so I will not drive you crazy any more - I will go home. Great idea BDM........ Of course you know that's the village idiot talking (someone tell me how to spell "idiget" - you know like the guy in the bug bunny cartoon Yosemite Sam) ....... ------------------------------ From: "Joseph A. Burnett" Subject: heres your answer to all the people arguing over ripoff bands, etc.........guess what! soundgarden has influences from Led Zeppelin, so, they're a bunch Led Zeppelin wanna-bes, right? and led zeppelin was influenced by someone, so led zeppelin is a bunch of ripoffs, right? and that guy was probably influenced by classical musicians, and they were influenced by the romans, who were influenced by two cavemen banging a rock together a billion years ago......so if any of you fools want to find an original band, then become archaeologists or something. Cause everybody got their ideas from someone. if a band sucks, fine......they suck......but dont call them a ripoff, because you're a goddam hypocrite if you do. by the way, anybody have the "Cavemen" album? I heard its a classic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! haha Joe P.s. what did OJ say to Judge Ito after he was acquitted? "Can I have my glove back now?" ------------------------------ Subject: Sorry !!!!! From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) Just got a copy of my cereal posting. Damn the system put the words all over the place - it's going to take you days to figure out what I said. The store of my life - try to be neat and shit happens. Well good luck in reading it. I'll not do any better the next time. Jamie ------------------------------ From: Askairi Williams Subject: The Cause I am ashamed to read the list ( no offense to the makers ) .When I subscribed , I thought we were going to talk about SG and shoot the breeze . Apparently this breeze has become hot . Flaming is really maligned when you use it when you are in a bad mood . I emplore the other silent members of the list who rarely flame to come and talk with us so that we can do what we are united here to do . Kudos to all who are not flaming . ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Member Directory I have a photo. I have an envelope. I have a stamp. Why haven't I combined them yet?...I dunno. (Work has been a tad consuming the past couple of weeks.) I WILL send my bio-package (picture, birthday, hometown, etc.) to Seth tomorrow morning via snail-mail. Seth's schedule permitting, I should be in the member directory next week. Looking forward to reintroducing myself to all of you. Vikki :) ------------------------------ From: Sara Louise Hoeck (Sara Hoeck) Subject: Re: The Cause > > I am ashamed to read the list ( no offense to the makers ) .When I >subscribed , I thought we > were going to talk about SG and shoot the breeze . Apparently this >breeze has become hot . Flaming > is really maligned when you use it when you are in a bad mood . I >emplore the other silent members > of the list who rarely flame to come and talk with us so that we can do >what we are united here to > do . Kudos to all who are not flaming . Whoever you are, thank you. I feel the same way. I thought the same thing when I subscribed, and while everyone has been really nice to me-there have been a lot of flames towards other people. Please, lets all just come out and talk about whatever we feel like. And try not to flame anyone (unless of course they decide not to like SG)I fyou have something to say, speak up. Thanks for listening to me.-Sara ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: suggestions, trading, lyrics Folks, I'm coming from out of my non-elitist shell to mention a few random side/after/meaningless maybe thoughts: - - I believe that than rather sending the digest as a .txt file, send it as 2 or 3 separate Emails. I have my reasons for this: I have to open a word processor to view the digest because it's too large to fit on my clipboard (or something like that). I'd like to offer my occasional comments & what not, but it's a major pain to copy the messages, titles, etc. & then go back to my Internet connect program & write my crappy little message. I hope this is taken into consideration... (c: - - If anyone out there would like to trade, Email me. I've got a decent collection of Soundgarden stuff.. maybe I have something you don't. Thanks. - - Notice how the lyric sheets found at the many web sites for Soundgarden have imcomplete, incorrect lyrics or missing songs all together? -notices a few nods 'yes'- I'm sure the folks that compiled these lyrics worked really hard but I think 'we' as a family (ahem.. for the most part atleast) should try to perfect the lyrics. Maybe daily/weekly we could have a few threads concerning a certain song or two. We could try to agree on a set of lyrics and refine them. I'd be happy to 'run' this by offering the basis for the lyrics & putting the final products together. What do ya'll think? I'm just trying to help build a better Soundgarden fandom (c: upcoming features: um... lyrics to 'Flower' maybe? I think this will be a good idea & it's something we need to do. Maybe we can build some more unity amongst ALL the folks (all 280something of us)! Sorry for being so verbose, UnknownMan with Thinking Cap (Ray) ------------------------------ From: Sara Louise Hoeck (Sara Hoeck) Subject: Re: heres your answer >to all the people arguing over ripoff bands, etc.........guess what! >soundgarden has influences from Led Zeppelin, so, they're a bunch Led >Zeppelin wanna-bes, right? and led zeppelin was influenced by someone, so >led zeppelin is a bunch of ripoffs, right? and that guy was probably >influenced by classical musicians, and they were influenced by the romans, >who were influenced by two cavemen banging a rock together a billion years >ago......so if any of you fools want to find an original band, then become >archaeologists or something. Cause everybody got their ideas from someone. >if a band sucks, fine......they suck......but dont call them a ripoff, >because you're a goddam hypocrite if you do. by the way, anybody have the >"Cavemen" album? I heard its a classic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >haha >Joe > >P.s. what did OJ say to Judge Ito after he was acquitted? > >"Can I have my glove back now?" Just wanted to say that I agree. I hope everyone else does too, because it is true if you think about it. Hey, that would mean that all my other favorite bands are rip-offs too. That's sad. Now you ruined my day, Joe. Just kidding. Talk to you guys later. -Sara ------------------------------ From: Sara Louise Hoeck (Sara Hoeck) Hey, I just seen Vicki's message and would like to send my picture in to the member directory, if you guys would actually like to seen it. It'll have to be my senior pictures from last year cause those are the only pictures I have. So, can anyone give me the address for me to mail this in. I would appreciate it much, although you might not. -Sara ------------------------------ From: "T.C." Subject: Hola mi amigos! If there is anyone who doesn't have a particular Soundgarden CD, but would like to hear something off it, leave me E-mail (see below) and I can help ya with it. ,;';,;';,;';,;';,;';,;';,;';, ,;';,anc11540@anc.ak.net,;';, ,;';, LoTEcH ,;';, ,;';, (Tom) ,;';, ,;';,www.ak.net/anc11540,;';, ,;';,;';,;';,;';,;';,;';,;';, ------------------------------ From: "T.C." Subject: Ahem Did Kim Thayil have a sex change? Please email me a reply because I have asked this question at least twice and I have never seen the response. Thanks ,;';,;';,;';,;';,;';,;';,;';, ,;';,anc11540@anc.ak.net,;';, ,;';, LoTEcH ,;';, ,;';, (Tom) ,;';, ,;';,www.ak.net/anc11540,;';, ,;';,;';,;';,;';,;';,;';,;';, ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: VERY well said, David, whoever you are!! On 3 October 1995, David wrote: >My opinion: if you like someone's music, buy it, listen to it, and laugh >insanely at anyone who tells you otherwise. > >The Tea Party kicks. Yo, my 24 y.o. Silverchair admirer! Fellow Aussie!! You put your opinion about "so-called" rip-off bands across so eloquently (and that's a big word for me at this time of day) that I just had to second it. Especially the bit where you wrote: >The way I see it, if someone copies your favourite group, it just means >you now have two groups making music you can kick to. Why can't everyone on this list have an easy-going attitude like that? I look forward to hearing more from you, David. Cheers from Carolyn the Maniacal Frog (thanks Avatar) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When I hand my love in I'll be done Save it, just keep it off my wave And my youth I pray to keep **SOUNDGARDEN** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Re: photos On 3 October 1995, Dan wrote: > By the way who has already sent their pictures off to Seth and who >is still planning to? When I have found a decent picture of me I shall send >it straight away. I'm getting around to it. It's finding a decent picture that's tough!! Seth, will you please let us know when there are some photos up there already? Or will you be waiting until you have several to put up at once? Carolyn the Mystical (perhaps not for much longer) Fairy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When I hand my love in I'll be done Save it, just keep it off my wave And my youth I pray to keep **SOUNDGARDEN** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Re: She Likes Surprises / Australia On 4 October 1995, Chris Mackenzie wrote: >I am jealous of Australia. SEE, Moon Druid!! I TOLD you this is a cool, happening place down here!! Just think! If you have the Somms List Members Meeting Place Down Under, you could all buy as many Soundgarden Superunknown albums with She Likes Surprises on them as you want! C'mon, everyone, get down to this big brown land of ours..................I'll even be your tour guide! Carolyn the Mystery Factor ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When I hand my love in I'll be done Save it, just keep it off my wave And my youth I pray to keep **SOUNDGARDEN** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Re: Funny YOU should say THAT, MD!! On 3 October 1995, I wrote: >>AND, btw, Moon Druid, how about all you northern-hemisphere-ers making the >>big trip to come & see us Down Under?? Don't forget there are a few of us >>on the list.................a really cool & happening place down here, you know!! Then the very next day, Moon Druid wrote: >Funny you should say that. My dad may have to move down there for a little >while because of his job...go figure, he's a banker :/ >But, hey!!! I might go down, I dunno. Right now, he's probably gonna be here, >but if we're ever down there, I'll look ya up. Wow. No sooner had I sent my message about coming to Australia and She Likes Surprises, than I read Moon's message above. Yes, I'm still a bit behind the times here. Have almost caught up! (and then there'll be today's messages to read). Anyway, fate must be telling us something, Moon!! I reckon maybe, just maybe, you'll be coming to the land of Oz before you know it - & if you do, make sure you DO look me up, y'hear??!! Carolyn the mf ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When I hand my love in I'll be done Save it, just keep it off my wave And my youth I pray to keep **SOUNDGARDEN** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: Re: I'm being followed by a druid... In regards to 665 backwards. Is it just me or is CC saying stuff like, "oh yeah baby, gimme some sugar," etc... Is this jive talk? Chris Mackenzie "Why aren't they singing - take you're vitamins, be a nice person?" - Soundgarden, Big Dumb Sex (New Version) "I dreamnt of Cindy & her thorazine screams and her perma-teen light & I've seen her loose her mind" - Truly, Angelhead ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: Re: is CC Jesus' twin? Didn't Beavis & Butthead say that when they were watching the Outshined video? Chris Mackenzie "Why aren't they singing - take you're vitamins, be a nice person?" - Soundgarden, Big Dumb Sex (New Version) "I dreamnt of Cindy & her thorazine screams and her perma-teen light & I've seen her loose her mind" - Truly, Angelhead ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Re: suggestions, trading, lyrics The official Soundgarden folks are working on the lyrics. Seth told us SG web management hired an intern to REVIEW lyrics as printed on the unofficial site. When they will appear on the official page -- we don't know. If you'd like to work on them anyway, I'm game. (Who's to say an intern can listen better than we can, right?) If we do this, it would be best to email our individual interpretation to ONE PERSON ONLY to avoid clutter, and have that person send the results/questions to the list. Vikki ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: suggestions, trading, lyrics Author: UnknMan@aol.com at nylanr01 Date: 10/5/95 6:35 PM Folks, I'm coming from out of my non-elitist shell to mention a few random side/after/meaningless maybe thoughts: - - I believe that than rather sending the digest as a .txt file, send it as 2 or 3 separate Emails. I have my reasons for this: I have to open a word processor to view the digest because it's too large to fit on my clipboard (or something like that). I'd like to offer my occasional comments & what not, but it's a major pain to copy the messages, titles, etc. & then go back to my Internet connect program & write my crappy little message. I hope this is taken into consideration... (c: - - If anyone out there would like to trade, Email me. I've got a decent collection of Soundgarden stuff.. maybe I have something you don't. Thanks. - - Notice how the lyric sheets found at the many web sites for Soundgarden have imcomplete, incorrect lyrics or missing songs all together? -notices a few nods 'yes'- I'm sure the folks that compiled these lyrics worked really hard but I think 'we' as a family (ahem.. for the most part atleast) should try to perfect the lyrics. Maybe daily/weekly we could have a few threads concerning a certain song or two. We could try to agree on a set of lyrics and refine them. I'd be happy to 'run' this by offering the basis for the lyrics & putting the final products together. What do ya'll think? I'm just trying to help build a better Soundgarden fandom (c: upcoming features: um... lyrics to 'Flower' maybe? I think this will be a good idea & it's something we need to do. Maybe we can build some more unity amongst ALL the folks (all 280something of us)! Sorry for being so verbose, UnknownMan with Thinking Cap (Ray) ------------------------------ From: Baldrick2@aol.com Subject: Chris Too Old? Well, wouldn't you know it.. when I finally posted info about SG at the Sunstroke Festival, 2 of you had already beaten me to it. Where do you get the time to keep so up to date on everything?! I didn't have time to read the Digest for over a week, but I caught up on everything this afternoon & I HAD to print out the post from John Grieves, re: Chris not being as young as he used to be. I put it on the bulletin board in my office...everyone had a good laugh over that one! CC is 31 and TOO OLD to get around on the stage...we loved it...best post from the entire week! (Just out of curiosity John...how old are you?) ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: Re: mouthful of cotton Its: Come on, we like it all Chris Mackenzie "Why aren't they singing - take you're vitamins, be a nice person?" - Soundgarden, Big Dumb Sex (New Version) "I dreamnt of Cindy & her thorazine screams and her perma-teen light & I've seen her loose her mind" - Truly, Angelhead ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: Re: Heh heh heh...FREE THE JUICE!!! The guys probably dont care, just like we dont care. On Wed, 4 Oct 1995 MoonDruid@aol.com wrote: > >12:30 The O.J. Verdict Preview > > 1:00 Live coverage of the O.J. Verdict > > 1:30 Live coverage of the L.A. Riots > > In school, during my morning free period (around 10:00) I was running through > the halls (away from the deans :) screaming out FREE THE JUICE!!!! FREE > OJ!!!! NOT GUILTY!!! NOT GUILTY!!!! over and over and over. Heh heh heh. > So I was in chorus (yeah, wanna make something of it :)..) and the director > said...after we finished rehearsing..."Okay, so, by a show of hands, who > thinks he's guilty?" and a lot of people raised their hands "Who thinks he's > going to jail?" and even LESS people raised their hands. So, she turned on > the TV (Yeah, we have an entire Fiber-optic system in our > school...nenner-nenner-neeener!!) and with perfect timing, we saw the > verdict. Needless to say, I ran from the room screaming "THE JUICE IS > LOOSE!!!!" > > So, any OTHER OJ Stories? > > Oh, to keep this SG related...do you think the guys think OJ was guilty or > not? > > > Moon Druid > ------------------------------ From: Michael Barnes Subject: List Members Dir. To any and all list members who live in Cascadia (Northwest): I have a scanner, and instead of sending your picture(s) via snail-mail to Seth you are more than welcome to send them to me, where I can scan them and e-mail them to Seth, (or back to you!). (I'm sure that it would be faster.) Email me personally and we can work out the details! Just a friendly suggestion. Happy SG day!!! ***************************************************** Wooden Jesus, where are you from? Korea or Canada or maybe Taiwan I didn't know it was the holy land, But I believed from the minute the check left my hand ***************************************************** MichaelB@Humongous.com ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: chris=jesus You were not the first to notice that chris looks like jesus. Beavis and Butthead did it a while ago during the outshined video. Butthead said, "Whoa, is that Jesus" and then Beavis replied,"Yeah, Christ is cool!" ------------------------------ From: Sara Louise Hoeck (Sara Hoeck) Hi, it's me again. I know I've written a million times today, but since some of you do the same thing, I don't feel so bad. What I do feel bad about is the fact that you guys seem to know everything about Soundgarden, while all I do is listen to the CD. I signed up for this list because I love SG, but you guys make me feel dumb. JERKS! Just kidding. No, but I will probably have some stupid questions to ask, so can you guys just bear with it? And if it is just the stupidest question you have ever heard, then you can flame me, but since I am just a SG fan rising from the ground, please help me. Well, that's all I had to say, and if I don't write you guys anything tomorrow, then I will write on Monday. See you later!-Sara ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Concert Perceptions I'm responding to Daniel Garrett (and all others who were disappointed with SG at the Reading Festival '95). Dan wrote: SG were a massive let-down, a terrible anti-climax. They looked like they just came to take the money and run. CC's voice sounded pretty ragged. They had no charisma, power, sense of occasion, nothing. I was at that concert. It was outstanding from where I was standing (the front row -- directly in line with Ben). The sound and Chris's voice were flawless. Cornell's voice was effortlessly powerful and controlled and his facial expressions and stance were arrogant and teasing. Ben was into it too, definitely putting on a hysterically funny show -- flailing himself about the stage as usual, making faces at us, etc. Cornell was confident and laid-back and deservedly proud of himself. Thing is, we both love this band (same taste). We both were elated to be there (same enthusiasm and expectations). What I'd like to know is where you watched the show from (stage-right, left or center and how far were you from the speakers). I've read drastically different reviews of concerts from people who attend the same show and end up in either Shangrila or acoustic-hell. I'm confused, Vikki :( ??????????????????? ------------------------------ From: Sara Louise Hoeck (Sara Hoeck) Subject: Re: chris=jesus >You were not the first to notice that chris looks like jesus. Beavis and >Butthead did it a while ago during the outshined video. Butthead said, >"Whoa, is that Jesus" and then Beavis replied,"Yeah, Christ is cool!" Hey, I think I seen that one. That was a long time ago. During the summer I think. How in the hell did you remember that? Wow. I didn't. Not until you mentioned it, that is. well, see ya Monday.-Sara ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Welcome to new SG list members. Welcome and warm-fuzzies to all the uninitiated. Ask the sages of the list a multitude of questions and we will guide you away from Soundgarden ignorance. Vikki ;) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ I signed up for this list because I love SG, but you guys make me feel dumb. I am just a SG fan rising from the ground, please help me. See you later!-Sara ------------------------------ From: DanaBT@aol.com Subject: Mature music? Some of the posts in the last few days make me laugh because I know exactly how you feel. A few of you had mentioned how the people you work with can't stand Soundgarden or any other type of music you enjoy. They think it's juvenile, immature, or just "not real music". One of my best friends insists that Soundgarden are interesting, but it's not music. The other night I made her compare what she likes (Whitney Houston, Garth Brooks, etc.) to Soundgarden. I know this comes across as absurd to most of you, but it was actually pretty cool. She eventually sort-of agreed that lyrics like"And I will always love you---ooooooooo- I will always love you" just don't require the same deep thought processes as something like "Shower in the dark day, clean sparks diving down--cool in the waterway, where the baptized drown". That's my method, I slowly convert my friends and even my family to opening their minds to music as "immature" as Soundgarden. Last summer I took my 40 year old brother to the first concert he had been to since seeing Peter Frampton headline a Bill Graham's Day on the Green in the summer of 1975. You guessed it, Soundgarden. He's now a total fan. "Jesus Christ Pose" is his favorite and he thinks Chris Cornell is definitely the best vocalist in rock. Now he has something to really share with his 16 year old son. Even his diehard-Neil-Diamond loving wife walks around the house singing "I'm so ugly, that's okay 'cause so are you". She still can't deal with Soundgarden. The moral of this very long story is don't join them, beat them!! ------------------------------ From: The Back Door Man Subject: Something better. OK. Here's something a little more feasible than the cereal idea. What about a Soundgarden Saturday morning cartoon? Hell, the New Kids on the Block did it, right? I would definitely get up early to watch it. BDM "'Cause I heard it in the wind and I saw it in the sky. And I thought it was the end and I thought it was the 4th of July." --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: Re: Something better. On Thu, 5 Oct 1995, The Back Door Man wrote: > OK. Here's something a little more feasible than the cereal idea. What > about a Soundgarden Saturday morning cartoon? Hell, the New Kids on the > Block did it, right? I would definitely get up early to watch it. I'd like to see matt whup one of those morphin's asses! or have them as the scooby doo team, where they foil the old groundskeeper/butler/amusement park owner's dastardly schemes :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Subject: Re: suggestions, trading, lyrics From: seth > - I believe that than rather sending the digest as a .txt file, send it as 2 > or 3 separate Emails. I have my reasons for this: I have to open a word > processor to view the digest because it's too large to fit on my clipboard > (or something like that). I'd like to offer my occasional comments & what > not, but it's a major pain to copy the messages, titles, etc. & then go back > to my Internet connect program & write my crappy little message. I hope this > is taken into consideration... (c: I know that some of you can't stand to receive such a large digest every day. Unforunately, breaking it into pieces will add too much more work to what I already have. This is not a LISTSERV or LISTPROC operation I've scrapped together here. That means that I process all subscribe and unsubscribe requests by hand. When subscribe messages come from the Web page, I run a script that goes through my inbox, selects those messages because they all have the same subject, and adds whoever is in the "From:" fields to the mailing list. This doesn't work if they want the digest. I do those by hand. Same thing for unsubscribe messages. And the list database here at MIT is case-sensitive. If I get an unsubscribe message and one letter is in a different case than it was in the original subscribe message, I have to hunt through the database to find the person. (I know, whine, whine, whine...) Dealing with maybe 30 or 35 sub/unsub requests per day, along with archiving all of the somms messages for the digest is quite a pain in the ass. (Have I generated any sympathy yet?) I have a small script (that I stole from someone else and modified slightly) that takes all of the messages from my 'somms' folder and makes the digest, minus the unsubscribe messages that were sent to the list, which I deal with as they come in and then delete. I then go through the entire digest and strip all of the headers by hand. It sucks knowing that no matter what I do, no matter what day it is, I always have to come home and compile the digest. (Are you guys sobbing yet?) Believe it or not, I am a student, which means that from time to time I have to do some work that's not related to the list or the Web page. So while your suggestion is quite valid, and would probably help out a great many people, I simply cannot devote the time. It's too much more to deal with every day. I apologize. seth (listadmin) ------------------------------ Subject: Re: photos From: seth > > By the way who has already sent their pictures off to Seth and who > >is still planning to? When I have found a decent picture of me I shall send > >it straight away. > > I'm getting around to it. It's finding a decent picture that's tough!! > Seth, will you please let us know when there are some photos up there > already? Or will you be waiting until you have several to put up at once? I'll wait until I get a few. I don't want to make one person uncomfortable because his/her picture is the only one there. So, Carolyn the Mystery Face will be revealed... seth ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: AIC Release Date To anyone who cares: Addicted to Noise Online Magazine wrote that the release date for the new AIC is on October 24. The first single is called "Grind," they think the album may have the same title as they only finished recording last Friday. Chris Mackenzie "Why aren't they singing - take you're vitamins, be a nice person?" - Soundgarden, Big Dumb Sex (New Version) "I dreamnt of Cindy & her thorazine screams and her perma-teen light & I've seen her loose her mind" - Truly, Angelhead ------------------------------ From: Tonerkins@aol.com Subject: Re: Hi AGAIN A new gardener here. I wanted to tell foreshocks that I too ordered back issues from Spin (the Soundgarden issues) in the early summer and I got a cancelled check but no rags. I sent them e-mail and haven't got any reply yet. ------------------------------ From: MoonDruid@aol.com Subject: The New Flame Rule... Dear SOMMS readers, Well, I posted a thing about OJ yesterday, and I posted a lot of messages in a row. I had something to say, and the real Soundgarden fans were happy to see it (well, happy to see the messages...not the OJ thing :)...). However, I got a few flames from people that never post to the mailing list. Let's put it this way, I have the guts to speak my mind, step out from behind my keyboard, and talk about Soundgarden. I can make new friends, have side conversations, and so on. But, there are some people that are so high and mighty that they flame others when they never even post to the mailing list. So, from now on, no one is allowed to flame unless they post to the mailing list, it's only fair. You have to say a few nice things so that people don't think you're a total jerk before you are allowed to say a few bad things. Just use this as a rule of thumb. I have read the rules for flaming, and I agree with them. However, I don't agree with people that are willing to flame, but not willing to post to the mailing list. If you plan on flaming in the future, at least talk on the mailing list. You'll make more friends that way, and you'll keep your faces from getting smashed in the next time we see you. Moon Druid :) ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 61] ***************************************