From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 28 Mar 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 02:08:45 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Thursday, 28 Mar 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: Betrayors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the voting is over alice mudgarden Re: Heavy Rotation..... Re: Hendrix and Footsteps... heavy rotation... the day i had to laugh I am a fool Music thang Re: Music thang PJ drummer Re: I am a fool Re: PJ drummer Heavy Rotation..... the voting is over Re: Lists and Muses Addicted to Noise, Music News 3/27/96 Re: To SG List; Re: I am a fool Re: I am a fool Re: Kickstand revisited... Re: Everyone's fave Nothing again... Re: Everyone's fave Nothing again... Re: Ross is mistaken, and I'm having problems... SNL heavy rotation Older and wiser or is that fatter,crankier and hard of hearing! Re: heavy rotation Various and Sundry Posts I Get A Buzz Re: Older and wiser or is that fatter,crankier and hard of hearing! Heavy Rotation. Re: I Get A Buzz i know this has already been cleared up but uh, help..... Re: Various and Sundry Posts Re: talented singers Fresh Deadly Rarities Re: talented singers Re: PJ drummer Hurry up May 21st!! Re: SG cover of Into The Void... Re: various ramblings and stuff... INto the voID Jesus Christ Pose Bassline Re: Music thang Guitar specialists & RATM fans please read!! going downhill Re: PJ drummer Re: PJ drummer Re: various ramblings and stuff... RE: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 27 Mar 1996 cool post Re: PJ drummer in my ear... Re: talented singers Re: going downhill Music thang Re: CD ROM Re: Kickstand revisited... Older and wiser or is that fatter,crankier and har IRC Re: PJ drummer (fwd) Awesome Article!!! Read or die slowly and painfully!!! Re: IRC Contest ------------------------------------------------------------ From: alisa brozena Subject: Re: Betrayors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have to totally vote Times of Trouble!!!! How could you not? On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, MAYOR McCHEESE wrote: > I feel so betrayed by you all. "Times of Trouble" rocks a hell of a lot > more than Footsteps!!!! Wow, maybe I should make my own "Real > Soundgarden Fans List" and boot everyone off who blasphemed the good ole > SG. But then I'd be like Mussillini or something. I'll just let it > rest. I know that Chris like's both, but at least I know better! > > Sadly, the only true SG fan left, > McCheese > > _Why do I feel like the only human on the Planet of the Apes, gazing apon > the fallen Statue of Liberty? > > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX > Jesus saves souls and redeems them for valuable cash prizes. > > **By receiving this letter you can join the OFFICIAL MAYOR McCHEESE > SOUNDGARDEN CAMPING EXTRAVAGANZA in Detroit Lakes, Minnesota now by > replying to this letter with thesubject: CAMPING TRIP! Or type > f beyera@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu for info on how you can join!*** > > ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: the voting is over SA>The shirt design vote is over. The winning options are: SA>DESIGN: the fork SA>SLEEVES: short SA>TEXT: somms@mit.edu SA>FONT: 16 (the punch label font, the one that's already on SA> the list page) SA>The totals are available on the list page. This means I can get the prices now. I'll get them tomorrow, and then I'll double check the shipping and handling prices that Toni sent me (to make sure my post office isn't trying to rip me off ;) and then I'll post the prices for the different people around the world, and then I'll post my address and you people can start sending me money. And I guess the color is going to be natural, right? This natural color is a light, but darker than white. It's kind of a tan, but not really. A VERY light tan. Off-white is what I would call it, but cream is what my mom would call it. If there are any objections, speak up now, or forever hold yourself. Nothingman -I like to eat turkey. ------------------------------ From: EUPHORIA Subject: alice mudgarden i was on a chains page and found out that sometimes cornell and mark arm play "RIGHT TURN"(OFF SAP) with them under the name Alice Mudgarden........ euphoria ...WHEN THE DOGS ARE LOOKING FOR THEIR BONES AND ITS RAINING ICEPICKS ON YOUR STEEL SHORE........ ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: Re: Heavy Rotation..... I completely agree. People tend to be so egocentric. They think that because THEY don't care for a musician that nobody else could POSSIBLY listen to it. People have different tastes. Just like some people don't like green beans. NEWSFLASH: There are THOUSANDS of talented musicians and none of us are required to listen to any of them! Listen to the ones you want. And Soundgarden of course. >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Ross Filipek wrote: > What's in the ol' disc player in my room? Well, let's see..... > > Led Zeppelin II > Mother Love Bone > Mellon Collie & the Infinite Sadness > Hater > Temple of the Dog > Fresh Deadly B-Sides > PotUSA > Jimi Hendrix: Woodstock > Sly & the Family Stone: Greatest Hits > Tower of Power: East Bay Grease > > Another thing. Most of you probably won't read this, but I think it needs > to be said. Mariah Carey is a good singer. NOW LOOK! I *don't* listen to > her music or to any of that soft stuff. If a song of hers comes on the > radio, I guarantee I'd be the first to change the station. But you'd have > to be crazy to say she doesn't have pipes of gold. I mean, her mom is a > famous opera singer, and even Mariah has a vocal range of over four > octaves. If you know anything about music theory, you'll know that a > range that big is about as common as trees on the moon. Perfect pitch, no > breaks, 4 whole octaves.....can Chris say that about himself? Now I just > know I'm going to get torched for this, but I just want to say that I > love SG and would listen to *anything* in the world before I would put on > a Mariah Carey record. I mean, just because she doesn't sing the style of > music you like doesn't make her an untalented singer. If we're going to > pick on vocalists let's chastise *really* untalented ones like the singer > >from the Cranberries. > > So to recap and be perfectly clear: I love SG and hate Mariah Carey, but > just because I don't subscribe to her style of music doesn't mean she's > untalented. > > Ross (putting on his flame-proof suit) > > "But in your heart I'd freeze." > --C. Cornell > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ From: Jaime GonzaleZ Subject: Re: Hendrix and Footsteps... At 07:45 PM 3/26/96 -0700, you wrote: > >>2. Jimi Hendrix - _Rainbow Bridge_ - flying the freak flag highly! Also >>contains the original studio version of "Hey Baby (Land of the New Rising >>Sun)". > >FREAK?! What are you talking about?! That album rocks, but then again, >ANYTHING from Jimi rocks! Out of all 30+ CDs I have with his stuff I have > > Back in the 60's That what the hippies called themselves Freaks.Because of how different they looked and dressed.Hendrix is the Shit,man.even after 25 years his music is strong.It has power and energy. I have'nt heard the M.A.C.C. cover yet ,I'll have to check it out. Gonzo Jaime Gonzalez Computer Repair Technician Engineering Services Michigan State University 505 Computer Center 353-5266 JGG@pilot.msu.edu FAX:517/3536506 ------------------------------ From: jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu (grote) Subject: heavy rotation... most often sighted in my cd player during the past few months... (or tape deck, whatever the case may be...) i'll even include my sg albums as a frame of reference... 1. morphine - yes (lounge-funk at its finest) 2. son volt - trace (folk-country at its equally finest) 3. husker du - warehouse (timeless classic) 4. soundgarden - badmotorfinger (anybody else like sg??? :) ) 5. primus - frizzle fry (the best album they ever did) 6. faith no more - angel dust (what an album...) 7. the urge - receiving the gift of flavor (never heard this? do you like the bosstones, but wish they had more soul, courtesy of, oh, say, a hyper black midget frontman with dreadlocks? then you need this record...also an amazing live act...) 8. pixies - doolittle (good schtuff.) later... - -- ######################################################################## # GROTE!!!!! "I don't remember half the time # # If I'm hiding or I'm lost # # jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu But I'm on my way....." -Chris Cornell # ######################################################################## ------------------------------ From: Kate Mercier Subject: the day i had to laugh okay, you guys got me laughing... mmmhmmm, Chief Sealth is a friend of the the bands. I'm not laughing at the ignorance... it's totally understandable to anyone outside of the west coast native community (and Native American studies at school). It's just the thought... it kills me. I mean, what a mental picture. Also: I forgot something that i listen to a LOT. Um... the Kids soundtrack. for some odd reason I have an attatchment to the last song (by SLint) called Good Morning Captain. Does anyone else like the album? Does anyone else like Folk Implosion? Also: Rage! the 16th of abril! yay! bibi_____________________ Kate (you made me seize my knees and sneeze) ------------------------------ From: "Jennifer L. York" Subject: I am a fool Can anybody explain to me in VERY simple terms exactly what I need to make the cd+ work? I've had it since Dec. and have had no luck. The computers I'm using are in the lab at school so they're all hooked up to one main computer I assume. I followed the instructions inside the cd but the computer won't even acknowledge that there is a cd in the drive. The computers do have a cd rom drive and speakers, I know. I think they are gateway 2000. That's it, call me an idiot. No, don't :) jyork@risc.usi.edu jennifer - - what the hell is footsteps? Now you can call me an idiot. ------------------------------ From: Michael J Sharkey Subject: Music thang Readers, I was away from my computer for awhile, so getting back, I had a number of issues of somms to read. I must say one thing stood out to me: The fact that everyone thinks the best bands in music today are going down hill, or have gone down hill with their latest albums. Save of course SG. The bands that were continually bashed were PJ and AIC. The low down on the list was that the last albums from these bands (Vitalogy) and (AIC) were basically horrendous. Obviously I am writing because I think differently. First, I think Vitalogy is a good album for PJ, because I think they let Vedder get his whole, "Man am I fucked up" emotion out. I think the band as a whole was not there for the album, and I like to think of it almost as a Vedder solo project (Despite some great percussion - why did they get rid of Aburuzzey? - and how do you spell his name?) Anyway, I did like the album because it wasn't like some of PJ's old stuff. It was original, new. Not music wise, but for the band, they really pushed a different angle and proved a great deal. I am sick of hearing albums from bands that are the same old same old. For example, who the fuck still listens to AC-DC, and why do you need to own more than one of their albums? As far as AIC goes, I love their latest. The sound is so heavy, and consistant. I am amazed that the band can continually come out with albums with one signifigant feel, and emotion to it. To conclude, if you really think these bands are heading down hill, I think you really don't know what you are talking about. ------------------------------ From: "Jennifer L. York" Subject: Re: Music thang > think Vitalogy is a good album for PJ, because I think they let Vedder > get his whole, "Man am I fucked up" emotion out. I think the band as a - ---------"good for the band" does not mean good music. So it was therapeutic. Maybe he was trying so hard not to "sell out" that he lost the original "feel" of pj. > To conclude, if you really think these bands are heading down > hill, I think you really don't know what you are talking about. - -----------I think in Pj's case, the only way they could go after such an amazing first album was downhill. Yes the new stuff is different, and no I don't expect assembly line music, but I know what I like and don't like, I think pj's new stuff (with some exceptions) is nowhere near as good as the old. This has nothing to do with "they got popular and now their music sucks and they're sellouts". That's not the way I think. Of course this is not a right or wrong issue as you seem to think. It's just an opinion, and I might even go so far as to say most people on this list -do- know what they're talking about as far as their musical tastes.> I haven't really heard the new AIC, but I loved Dirt and Sap and hated Jar of Flies, so I'm sure I'll be surprised. I hope you don't think this was a mean reply. It's just a reply. so just to make sure............ :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):) jenn (teehee) ------------------------------ From: wxs129@psu.edu (Kesa) Subject: PJ drummer I agree with Michael here. Pearl Jam and AIC are a couple of my favorite bands, and I think their latest albums, though different from the previous, still rock. All groups need to change and explore new things to grow as a band, even Soundgarden. > Obviously I am writing because I think differently. First, I >think Vitalogy is a good album for PJ, because I think they let Vedder >get his whole, "Man am I fucked up" emotion out. I think the band as a >whole was not there for the album, and I like to think of it almost as a >Vedder solo project (Despite some great percussion - why did they get rid >of Aburuzzey? - and how do you spell his name?) I heard that Dave Abbruzzeze left the group because of "artistic differences." Don't ask me what they mean by that. Kesa ,,,, (-_-) /_o_\ ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: Re: I am a fool On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Jennifer L. York wrote: > > > Can anybody explain to me in VERY simple terms exactly what I need to > make the cd+ work? I've had it since Dec. and have had no luck. > The computers I'm using are in the lab at school so they're all hooked up > to one main computer I assume. I followed the instructions inside the > cd but the computer won't even acknowledge that there is a cd in the > drive. > The computers do have a cd rom drive and speakers, I > know. I think they are gateway 2000. That's it, call me an idiot. > No, don't :) > jyork@risc.usi.edu jennifer > > - what the hell is footsteps? Now you can call me an idiot. > you have to make sure (or be lucky enough) that the drivers that are installed on the computers for the drives will support the cd+ format. most cd-rom drives don't come with these drivers (the software that makes the computer talk to the drive, and vice-versa [i don't mean to be patronizing if you already kow, but for those who don't]), so you need to get a hold of one that will allow you to use the cd+. since these are school computers, forget about it, it invloves changing system files and all kinds of groovy things there on the group w bench. try and find a friend or relative or something who has a computer, or ask the computer people if they can do anything. speaking in tongues ------------------------------ From: j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: Re: PJ drummer > > I heard that Dave Abbruzzeze left the group because of "artistic > differences." Don't ask me what they mean by that. > Eddie fired Dave because of "artistic differences"... What really pisses me off about Vedder is that if it weren't for PJ, he wouldn't be shit. He'd still be in SAN DIEGO (he's not from Seattle) pumping gas. So Eddie, had to replace the SECOND PJ drummer with Jack Irons who he has known for a while from San Diego.... and I think Abbruzzeze was the best drummer of them all so far... When i started listenin to Pj, I thought it was a group of guys that made good music because they all had input, WHICH WAS DIFFERENT... that gave them the formula.... good job Vedder just my two cents, jeremy j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://undertow.rh.ncsu.edu/ > > ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Heavy Rotation..... RF>to be crazy to say she doesn't have pipes of gold. I mean, her mom is a RF>famous opera singer, and even Mariah has a vocal range of over four RF>octaves. If you know anything about music theory, you'll know that a RF>range that big is about as common as trees on the moon. Perfect pitch, no RF>breaks, 4 whole octaves.....can Chris say that about himself? Well, Chris has at least 3 octaves covered, and that's just Beyond the Wheel (I think so, anyway). And he goes higher than hell on Reach Down, or one of those Temple of the Dog songs, anyway. So he's got pretty close to 4 octaves, I'd say. And for a man, that's REALLY damn good. RF>know I'm going to get torched for this, but I just want to say that I RF>love SG and would listen to *anything* in the world before I would put on RF>a Mariah Carey record. I mean, just because she doesn't sing the style of RF>music you like doesn't make her an untalented singer. I have to agree with you totally here. She's got the perfect contemporary voice. RF>If we're going to RF>pick on vocalists let's chastise *really* untalented ones like the singer RF>from the Cranberries. Alright. Now she isn't THAT bad. She's just challanging the regular old way of singing, that's all. She takes beaths where she shouldn't to add effect, because there's no way in hell she has to take a breath between every word. It has to be for the effect. She gets out of control at times, but so did Chris when he was younger. Give her some time, and she'll get better. She does have a powerful voice for such a little lady (and little whisper when she talks). Nothingman -But that new Cranberries song sucks some major donkey balls. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: the voting is over RC>This means I can get the prices now. I'll get them tomorrow, I went in today, and the guy in charge wasn't there. He'll be there on Friday, so I'll get the prices then. But the girl that was there said they shouldn't be much more than $8 a piece. Since I had no objections to posting the addresses and stuff from the shirt orders, I will do that soon. Nothingman -I have a really big hard drive. ------------------------------ From: OponFam@aol.com Subject: Re: Lists and Muses On March 26 Clown wrote >> 8) Temple of the dog. Some of the most emotional songs >>ever recorded Boy do I agree. The first time I heard "Say Hello 2 Heaven" I cried. I've never heard a song that so honestly showed how someone feels when someone they love dies. It combined the feelings of loss, pain, anger, love, and everything else that gets mixed up when you are grieving. And the way Chris Cornell sings it breaks my heart every time . Someone else wrote about how Chris can scream and still sound masculine. I agree with that too. Usually when some singer screams it just grates on me like nails on a chalkboard, but not Chris. When he screams it grabs me in the pit of my stomach. Maybe he's just more sincere (I'd hate to think he's just a better screamer). I think its the sincerity in their music in general that is a big thing I like about Soundgarden . You can really feel the music because it seems like they really feel it. Kathie ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: Addicted to Noise, Music News 3/27/96 From today's Addicted to Noise, Music News: http://www.addict.com/ATN - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now that we've heard the new Soundgarden album, Down On The Upside, we can tell you that it's a raging hard rock album. Particularly outstanding is the epic "Blow Up the Outside World," but that's just one of 16 potent slabs of noise from the Seattle-based rockers. There's also a bluesy number, "Burden In My Hand," that begins with just acoustic guitars and vocal, before the whole band kicks in. This is a major work that should please longtime Soundgarden fans, while bringing them plenty of new ones. The album will be released on May 21. - -- Steve - - swr@acsu.buffalo.edu - - http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~swr - - SG Web Alliance ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: Re: To SG List; I have both "Alive in the Superunknown" and the records that make up "Superunknown" w/ She Likes Surprises. If you haven't heard this song, it is good. Buy "Alive..." or "Songs...." Does anyone here read Time magazine? Look on pg 39 of this week's issue (today is Wed. 28th methinks). That town, Toms River is my town. Sad, ain't it? Thankfully that is not my HS. Bye. Gregg At 05:35 PM 3/24/96 -0500, Bu Shi Bai Ren wrote: >To fellow SG fans: > What up. I'm new to the list, so if I say anything astoundingly >stupid, please excuse me. I just got SG's "Songs from the Superunknown" EP >(for 3 bucks, no less. Some moron traded it in). There's a song called >"She Likes Suprises (International LP Version)". I was wondering if anyone >has this here "International LP". I would HIGHLY suggest all you SG fans >run out and pick up this EP. Run far and run fast. The acoustic version of >"Like Suicide" itself is worth the price. Also, there are a couple SG boots >I've been eyeing at the local Record Exchange & CD Warehouse. When I saw >that they covered Sly & the Family Stone's "Thank You(For Lettin Me Be Mice >Elf Agin)" and the Beatles' "Come Together", I nearly popped a vessel right >there. Just wondering if anyone has heard these SG versions. If yes, >please contact me at dwy2@po.cwru.edu >Thanks, >Dun-Wei (or Victor, my middle name) > >PS: to all other booters (SG or otherwise), e-mail me. I'm interested in >just about anything (especially PJ, AIC, RHCP, etc). >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-------------- >"Cretins! Fools! You will learn to your eternal horror the folly of >challenging me! I possess weapons of such terrible power as to beggar your >pathetic imaginations! But even your blatant stupidity does not suprise me, >for only the most abysmal ignorance could excuse such unbelievable >effrontery!" -- Dun-Wei, in response to those other guys. > > _________________________________________ | | "Don't come over here and piss on my | Check out my *NEW* homepages! | gate. Save it just keep it off My | Goto: http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | Wave"--Soundgarden | | |____________melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net___| "It's a shame when a contest of talent is turned into a popularity contest, and the best act doesn't win....so much for integrity, justice and all that bullshit." ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: Re: I am a fool Jennifer, Believe me, you're not alone. Not all CD-ROM drives can read the CD+ format. I've gone through several that won't, and it's driven me up a wall. The problem you're seeing, where the CD isn't even acknowledged is characteristic of the problem. The only recourse is to find a CD-ROM drive that supports CD+. Good luck. Most of the tech support people don't even know. What I've found is the following: 1. Gateway 2000's used to come with a Mitsumi 4x IDE CD-ROM that would read CD+. 2. There were a few Creative Labs' 4x drive that did as well. The newer 6x drive will not, nor will the older 2x drives that used the non-IDE connector. 3. The NEC 260 IDE drive will not work. I don't know if this is helpful or not. At least now you know that you're not alone. If anyone else can recommend products that do work, I'd like to hear. I'd still like to get AITS, but I won't buy it until I have something I can play it on. Greg "CD+? It's more like CD-..." On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Jennifer L. York wrote: > > > Can anybody explain to me in VERY simple terms exactly what I need to > make the cd+ work? I've had it since Dec. and have had no luck. > The computers I'm using are in the lab at school so they're all hooked up > to one main computer I assume. I followed the instructions inside the > cd but the computer won't even acknowledge that there is a cd in the > drive. > The computers do have a cd rom drive and speakers, I > know. I think they are gateway 2000. That's it, call me an idiot. > No, don't :) > jyork@risc.usi.edu jennifer > > - what the hell is footsteps? Now you can call me an idiot. > ------------------------------ From: Jaime GonzaleZ Subject: Re: I am a fool i may be able to help,I maintain the hardware and software for the microcomputer labs here at MSU.I just picked up a copy of The cd -rom+ disk.It was easy to use on a macintosh.If you have access to a macintosh lab ,use that instead.it should work as long as "Quicktime"software is already installed.If not,it's a piece of cake to install.For an IBM PC-clone it may be harder to do.Even though the GW2000 machine have cd rom drives,the cd-rom drivers may not be installed yet.it's hard to ascertain what the nature of the problem without more info.Since the machine fails to acknowledge that A disk is in the drive ,I'll venture to say that the cd-rom drive is not a doublespeed multisession cd-rom drive.in which case,there's no way it will work.try running this just using the the computers audio system.you should be able to access the audio tracks. your best bet is a macintosh with a 68040 cpu.let me know what you find out as I have many resources at my disposal. By the way,what model of GW2000 do you have.I have 1 lab with GW2000 model 4dx66. Gonzo Jgg@pilot.msu.edu At 11:22 AM 3/27/96 -0600, you wrote: > > >Can anybody explain to me in VERY simple terms exactly what I need to >make the cd+ work? I've had it since Dec. and have had no luck. >The computers I'm using are in the lab at school so they're all hooked up >to one main computer I assume. I followed the instructions inside the >cd but the computer won't even acknowledge that there is a cd in the >drive. > The computers do have a cd rom drive and speakers, I >know. I think they are gateway 2000. That's it, call me an idiot. >No, don't :) > jyork@risc.usi.edu jennifer > >- what the hell is footsteps? Now you can call me an idiot. > > Jaime Gonzalez Computer Repair Technician Engineering Services Michigan State University 505 Computer Center 353-5266 JGG@pilot.msu.edu FAX:517/3536506 ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: Re: Kickstand revisited... Hey Shroom, foward this to the idiot who analyzed Kickstand..... First of all, CC has been married for quite a while. Him and Ben Shepherd did NOT get married. Second, jumping to conclusions like this makes you look like an idiot. Third, you got the lyrics wrong: >>My momma says its ok, my momma says its the only way (his momma likes men) "My momma said that it's ALL RIGHT, my mother said that that's the only LIFE" >>Kickstand I got a saddle made of leather (think about it) What's to think about....he's talking about a TRIKE! >>kickstand I got the urge to come together "Kickstand i got the WORDS to come together I don't know if he means the Beatle's song or the words to bring the world together in peace and harmony or some shit. >>Now think about the title Kickstand itself, its a reference to male >>genetalia (ever hear of the term tripod to refer to a large dick?) No. That's the stupidest thing I've heard in a long while. I think that this is just C.C. dumping some catchy phrases into a short little ditty. As exemplified in the past, if he wants to say something, he will come out and say it. If you really believe that he is a bi, listen for him to scream, "I'm FUCKING BISEXUAL!" somewhere in the new album. That's all. Gregg _________________________________________ | | "Don't come over here and piss on my | Check out my *NEW* homepages! | gate. Save it just keep it off My | Goto: http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | Wave"--Soundgarden | | |____________melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net___| "It's a shame when a contest of talent is turned into a popularity contest, and the best act doesn't win....so much for integrity, justice and all that bullshit." ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: Re: Everyone's fave Nothing again... >SH>Is it just me, or does he have a "I >SH>don't know what the fuck you're doing, but it's funny as shit." look on his >SH>face? > >Yeppers! That's it! I always thought he was sitting there like some kinda psychoanalysist, ready to ask me, "And how do you feel about this?". I dunno how to describe the look, tho. It's a cross between an inquisitive "What are you doing?" look and a good-natured smile. And am I on >crack or does Kim look like he's palying his Game Boy? I think Matt >wants it next. I laughed at this, but i think that he's playing that Cat's Cradle string thingie cool. Gregg SHIT! THEY'RE PLAYING FOBD RIGHT NOW ON Q104.3! YESSSS! _________________________________________ | | "Don't come over here and piss on my | Check out my *NEW* homepages! | gate. Save it just keep it off My | Goto: http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | Wave"--Soundgarden | | |____________melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net___| "It's a shame when a contest of talent is turned into a popularity contest, and the best act doesn't win....so much for integrity, justice and all that bullshit." ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: Re: Everyone's fave Nothing again... And I found a place on the net to get >all sorts of tabs. Where is this? OLGA? Gregg _________________________________________ | | "Don't come over here and piss on my | Check out my *NEW* homepages! | gate. Save it just keep it off My | Goto: http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | Wave"--Soundgarden | | |____________melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net___| "It's a shame when a contest of talent is turned into a popularity contest, and the best act doesn't win....so much for integrity, justice and all that bullshit." ------------------------------ From: Ross Filipek Subject: Re: Ross is mistaken, and I'm having problems... OK. I suppose you're right. Cindy Crawford is more like it. Ross - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 27 Mar 1996 ShRooMGrLz@aol.com wrote: > talented woman. If you're going to pick on untalented women, why don't we > start pointing the finger at... Cindy Crawford. Did anyone besides me cringe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "But in your heart I'd freeze." --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: btimlake@nwu.edu (Ben Timberlake) Subject: SNL My friend and I were considering going to SNL on May 18, him being a Jim Carrey fan, and me kind of liking that band that's gonna be there that night. Anyone know how to get tickets to SNL? - Ben Ben Timberlake Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, Northwestern University Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh Medill School of Journalism DON'T TOUCH ME! btimlake@nwu.edu -30- "If I should be short on words and long on things to say, could you crawl into my world and take these words away?" - Chris Cornell, "Seasons" ------------------------------ From: Alie Subject: heavy rotation There's a big stack of cds on my desk right beside my cd player where my books would be if I ever studied... but the ones that my roomates want to kill me for listening to too much are: SG - SU, BMF No explanation necessary. AIC - Dirt Really good to listen to when I'm pissed off. Radiohead - The Bends I really don't know why I like this so much, just do. Tragically Hip - Day For Night Hey, I'm Canadian, eh. Ashley MacIsaac - Hi, How Are You Today? Saw this guy live and all I can say is WOW... I've played violin for about 10 years, and I just can't believe the shit he does. Shroom: Kudos, girl, kudos. I was also wondering, not to sound like an idiot or anything, if I'll ever get to see SG live. I live in Toronto, and it looks like there's no Lolla show close to here, and I can't afford to go somewhere to see it. Do you guys think they'll do a tour to promote their new album and maybe come here? Ok, I'll go away now. **************************************************************************** A L I E M U G F O R D amugford@mustang.uwo.ca "You are right. His dumbness is deafening. It's the silence of the primeval forest, heavy with menaces." - Albert Camus **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Subject: Older and wiser or is that fatter,crankier and hard of hearing! From: tonerkin@usa.pipeline.com (Tonerkin) On Mar 27, 1996 01:46:27, 'ShRooMGrLz@aol.com' wrote: >I realized >that the man is getting O-L-D. And if he's getting old, then that means I'm >getting... older. Shit. I'm 22 now. I know... you people could care less, >but this really freaked me out. Just like everytime I say "Back when I was a >teenager..." I'm feeling just about ancient right now. Shroom, you better get over it or by the time you are 30 you'll be taking target pratice at your own head!!! Relax! Getting old sure as hell beats waking up some Thursday morning DEAD!!!! And as far as Chris getting older. It is probably a good thing all this sucess came when he was more mature and maybe could handle it better. Some of these young bands that get sucessful very quickly tend to crash and burn either emotionally or musically!!! And we all want SG to be around for a while!! Besides all this talk about being old at 22 makes me feel like Bob Dole!! Toni ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: Re: heavy rotation As far as I know, they are supposed to announce a Lolla date for Eastern Canada. Cross your fingers. >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Alie wrote: > There's a big stack of cds on my desk right beside my cd player where my > books would be if I ever studied... but the ones that my roomates want to > kill me for listening to too much are: > > SG - SU, BMF No explanation necessary. > AIC - Dirt Really good to listen to when I'm pissed off. > Radiohead - The Bends I really don't know why I like this so much, just do. > Tragically Hip - Day For Night Hey, I'm Canadian, eh. > Ashley MacIsaac - Hi, How Are You Today? Saw this guy live and all I can > say is WOW... I've played violin for about 10 years, and I just > can't believe the shit he does. > > Shroom: Kudos, girl, kudos. > > I was also wondering, not to sound like an idiot or anything, if I'll ever > get to see SG live. I live in Toronto, and it looks like there's no Lolla > show close to here, and I can't afford to go somewhere to see it. asks timidly> Do you guys think they'll do a tour to promote their new > album and maybe come here? Ok, I'll go away now. > > > > **************************************************************************** > A L I E M U G F O R D > amugford@mustang.uwo.ca > > "You are right. His dumbness is deafening. It's the silence of the > primeval forest, heavy with menaces." - Albert Camus > **************************************************************************** > > ------------------------------ From: Bryan Alan Blumklotz Subject: Various and Sundry Posts Shroom>>> Mid-Life crisis at 22? Unless you have a vary short life span I think you just hit a post teenage wake-up call... I had mine at 25. Once it was over and I had morned the loss of my teenaged years (they where hell, but they were all I knew) I was able to get set for the next crisis of age identity. BTW the 22-25 is a good range to wake up to your mortality... it means, in temporal terms, you can not understand the language or the mentality of anyone younger than say 18... . On the flip side, most (notice I did not say all) people who make the strange adjustment to adulthood (earily 20s) can start to speak meaninfully to other generations beyond their own. Just some thoughts to make you feel better . Ross, Ross, Ross...>>> I JUST wanted your selections. I specifically did not want to start another thread like the dreaded PJ vs. SG series that I just started erasing in mass. Defending Maria C. and dissing Ms. O'Rordan (sp?) is not a way of making friends here. In fact it gets off the point entirely... SO CUT IT OUT. This is not the MC admiration society or the Cranberries Mail List. . BTW if you want to spiral into a flaming area with my thread at least have the curtesy to change the Subject Heading so that my more harmless thread dosen't get confused with your ill choosen one. Another, BTW... I am neither agreeing or disagreeing with your post. I will not grace your provokation with a direct answer, NAH! Chief Sealth>>> I am sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings... but the lines that are attributed to Chief Sealth where proven to be bogus. They where a beautiful enviromental message and admirable in many waysm, but it turned out the speach was the creation of a white man (I have forgoten his name) who made good Chief Sealth out to be a noble savage. I think it was the references to the Plain's Indian Culture that made some historians suspicious. Chief Sealth would not had any meaniful contact with Plain's Culture since he was NW Coast which is very different. My dad, who loved that speach, was really pissed off when it was debunked. While the source may be discredited, it does not make the message any less powerful. Isn't history grand... Movie Soundtracks & Cameos>>> Does anyone have a complete list of movies using Soundgarden music in the film and/or on the soundtrack album. I know about Swingles (I spelled it that way because that is how me and my brother deride that film) and Endless Summer II. What else has there music appeared in? Have they made any cameos? I know that Foo Fighters front man Dave Grohl appeared in an X-Files episope, what about our boys in SG? Have they appeared in any of those endless music documentries? Has MTV done a "Rockumentery"? Do we care? If this thread has gone before I apologize. In (Multiple) Service, Saracen AKA Bryan - Soundgarden PS. Has anyone found a decent way of quotin from the digest version of the SG List? It would make responding easier... . ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: I Get A Buzz Hey all! Is it just me, or do any of you get a real buzz if you hear a Soundgarden song played on the radio? I know Foreshocks does - she's written about that before. Last night Triple J played "Fell On Black Days". I can't explain the feeling I got when I heard it played. It's the same feeling I get whenever the radio plays a Violent Femmes song. Pride, I guess. I feel like "wow - they're playing a song by a FANTASTIC band that I love and yet not a lot of people know" and it puts me on top of the world. When I say not a lot of people know Soundgarden and Violent Femmes, I mean that the average, everyday person walking down the street couldn't list 4 of their songs, even if they might have heard of the band name. Know what I mean? My silly ramblings..... Carolyn the Metabolic Fun-drug ********************************************* I'm gettin' bored and I need some kicks....V/Femmes I got an idea that we can do it all on our own.....S/Garden ********************************************* ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Re: Older and wiser or is that fatter,crankier and hard of hearing! > Shroom, you better get over it or by the time you are 30 you'll be >taking target pratice at your own head!!! Relax! Getting old sure as hell >beats waking up some Thursday morning DEAD!!!! And as far as Chris >getting older. It is probably a good thing all this sucess came when he was >more mature and maybe could handle it better. Some of these young bands >that get sucessful very quickly tend to crash and burn either emotionally >or musically!!! And we all want SG to be around for a while!! Besides all >this talk about being old at 22 makes me feel like Bob Dole!! Toni Sorry 'bout that, Toni. And thanks for the pep talk. I'm feeling muuuuuuch better now. My friend Chris bitched me out for like an hour earlier about it. I'm not freaking anymore, I think. The freaking might just be in remission. I guess it's just a minor pre-midlife crisis. But I swear... it seems like time is just FLYING by. I'm afraid if I go to sleep, I'm going to wake up 30 years old. Everyone warned me that time speeds up as you get older... and like an idiot, I didn't listen. You're probably right about Chris being able to handle success better since he's older, but I'd gotten the impression that all of SG have always been mature and in tune with the wicked ways of the world. (Alliteration is cool.) HA!! That's probably exactly what they WANT us to think. So the rest of us (well, me anyway) can mentally compare ourselves to them, and come out bumbling idiots. That's it!! It's a conspiracy to make me feel old and stupid. Or is that young and stupid. Hmm... ok, add confused to my list of complaints. Or maybe it's just a lack of drugs today ;)... Shroom ***I made ya get down on your hands and knees... *** Chris Cornell | |.| |.| |\./| "She drinkin' my JackDaniels |\./| and smokin' all my weed" .\ |\./| /. ~~Andy Wood, MLB \-.\ |\\.//| /.-/ \--./\ |\\.//| /\.--/ \--.| \ |\\.//| / |.--/ \---.|\ |\./| /|.---/ \--.|\ |\./| /|.--/ \ .\ |.| /. / _ -_- \ \\ // / -_- _ - -/_/_/- | | -\_\_\- - /_\ ------------------------------ From: "Tim Smith" Subject: Heavy Rotation. Well, it seems like everybody is doing this, so, i'll look in my CD changer for my top 8. 1. Presidents of the USA- This is a really cool CD. You have to listen to the whole thing, not just Peaches and Lump. Fav song: Boll Weivel 2. Soundgarden- Superunknown- You cannot forget this CD!! This is an amazing CD. Fav Song: tie between Head Down and Half 3. Radiohead- The Bends- Pretty good. Some good songs, some OK songs and 1-2 bad ones. Fav song: High and Dry 4. Weezer- SHAKE IT BABY!!!! fav song: The sweater song. 5. Primus- Pork Soda- This CD rocks. Fav song: My name is mud 6. Oasis- Defenatly Maybe- Better than the new one...(IMHO) fav song: Live Forever 7. Red Hot Chili Peppers- One Hot Minute- Just as good if not better than BloodSugarSexMagic. Fav Song: My Friends 8. The Beavis and Butthead Experience- This is a wicked mix CD. Get it if you like alternitive! Fav song: Primus-Poetry and Prose. Well, 'till next time.... Tim Smith ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Re: I Get A Buzz >Hey all! Is it just me, or do any of you get a real buzz if you hear a >Soundgarden song played on the radio? Definitely!! I get excited, even if it's just BHS... the most overplayed song in the world, next to Alanis Morisette's "You oughta know". >Pride, I guess. I feel like "wow - they're playing a song by a FANTASTIC >band that I love and yet not a lot of people know" and it puts me on top of >the world. When I say not a lot of people know Soundgarden and Violent >Femmes, I mean that the average, everyday person walking down the street >couldn't list 4 of their songs, even if they might have heard of the band name. >Know what I mean? I know exactly what you mean. I feel extremely proud of Soundgarden's accomplishments... and I'm proud to be a fan. Ok... an obsessed fan. For being such a great band, I don't thing that their following is as big as it should be. But then again, SG's material is harder to understand and follow than the average "popular" band. Such as Green Day. Or Hootie & the Blowfish. Oh, piss on me... I'm already late for classes, so if I didn't get to the point of this post... make one up for me, 'kay? Shroom ***I made ya get down on your hands and knees... *** Chris Cornell ------------------------------ From: foreshocks@bbs.cowland.com Subject: i know this has already been cleared up but to set any rumors to ease: i mailed sgkots about the new album and they said "down on the upside" so thats it no doubt about it. foreshocks ------------------------------ From: dani.wegelin@prodigy.com (MISS DANI G WEGELIN) Subject: uh, help..... carolyn, i believe i emailed you to put in a, uh, order for a shirt, but i never heard anything saying you got it? didja' get it??!?!?!? anyway, let me know....oh yeah, so, uh, what's the final decision anyways? - -slow - ---dani ------------------------------ From: Ross Filipek Subject: Re: Various and Sundry Posts I know. That's why I made it *very* clear that I'm not a MC fan. Check the original post. The point was that saying someone "sucks" merely because he or she doesn't sound exactly like Chris Cornell is not a valid argument. It was in response to some loose ramblings a week or two ago. True, it had nothing to do with your "heavy rotation" idea, but I think most people made the distinction that I was finished listing what is in my CD player. Don't worry, I don't think anyone will hold you personally responsible for anything that comes out of this. That post contained nothing that could start another "thread" anyway. Btw, I'm not interested in making more "friends" on this list. I've already made plenty. Ross - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Bryan Alan Blumklotz wrote: > I JUST wanted your selections. I specifically did not want to start another thread like > the dreaded PJ vs. SG series that I just started erasing in mass. Defending Maria C. and dissing > Ms. O'Rordan (sp?) is not a way of making friends here. In fact it gets off the point entirely... > SO CUT IT OUT. This is not the MC admiration society or the Cranberries Mail List. starts looking for his bad thread tangent bat>. BTW if you want to spiral into a flaming area > with my thread at least have the curtesy to change the Subject Heading so that my more harmless > thread dosen't get confused with your ill choosen one. Another, BTW... I am neither agreeing or > disagreeing with your post. I will not grace your provokation with a direct answer, NAH! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "But in your heart I'd freeze." --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Re: talented singers Me again. Oh boy, this list is getting back to how I love it - debate time!! Yeehah. :-) At 12:21 AM 27/03/96 -0500, Ross wrote: >Another thing. Most of you probably won't read this, but I think it needs >to be said. Mariah Carey is a good singer. NOW LOOK! I *don't* listen to >her music or to any of that soft stuff...... Hiya Ross. Firstly, I guarantee most of us DID read what you wrote. And sure, it makes perfect sense. (the bit about Mariah - I'll comment on the Cranberries in a minute). I'm not at all disputing that Mariah Carey has talent. BUT I DON'T REALLY GIVE A RAT'S ASS ABOUT TALENT. I choose music because I like it. I don't really care if the singer is "good" or not. I mean, this is ART we're talking about! Art is is emotional. It totally personal. Someone might be very talented at singing, but if it is sung to music I hate, or has a beat I don't like, then it is nothing. To me. Or someone might be very talented at singing, but if they put no emotion into it, then it is nothing. To me. {That's why I guess so many like Eddie's Footsteps rather than Chris' version. Because of the emotion Eddie uses when he sings. That's what *I* love about Pearl Jam, anyway. Now hey! I love Soundgarden too. So don't argue with me, please on which band is "better". I'm just trying to get you to understand where I'm coming from on this.} >....I mean, just because she doesn't sing the style of >music you like doesn't make her an untalented singer. Exactly. So isn't that the same with Delores from the Cranberries? > If we're going to >pick on vocalists let's chastise *really* untalented ones like the singer >from the Cranberries. So she might not be talented. (for all I know). BUT I love the Cranberries. Zombie and Linger and so many other songs of theirs send shivers down my spine when I hear them. Talented? Who gives a shit? As long as I like the sound that's good enough for me!! >So to recap and be perfectly clear: I love SG and hate Mariah Carey, but >just because I don't subscribe to her style of music doesn't mean she's >untalented. No arguments from me on that point. :-) Carolyn the Motor Fuel-injector ******************************************************* If you hate something, don't you do it too.....Pearl Jam So don't you lock up something that you wanted to see fly.....S/Garden ******************************************************* ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Fresh Deadly Rarities Does anyone know if this is at all easy to pick up on CD in Australia? I'm keen to get a copy. Please contact me if you're Australian and bought a copy of this over here. Thanks, Carolyn the Messy Filly ******************************************************* So don't you lock up something that you wanted to see fly.....S/Garden That's why I'll never lose these Sweet Misery Blues.....Violent Femmes ******************************************************* ------------------------------ From: He Who Walks Between Subject: Re: talented singers On Thu, 28 Mar 1996, Carolyn wrote: > > At 12:21 AM 27/03/96 -0500, Ross wrote: > >Another thing. Most of you probably won't read this, but I think it needs > >to be said. Mariah Carey is a good singer. NOW LOOK! I *don't* listen to > >her music or to any of that soft stuff...... > > BUT I DON'T REALLY GIVE A RAT'S ASS ABOUT TALENT. Yeah. Well, myself, i can appreciate talent, but it doesn't mean i think the music produced by someone talented is automatically good. For instance, i think Eddie Van Halen is an awesome guitar player, but i still think all the music he plays sucks. It's the same thing with Mariah Carey. And it's not because she's not Chris Cornell. I mean sure, that's a drawback ;) , but there are more important things. > I choose music because I like it. I don't really care if the singer is > "good" or not. I do care if the singer is good or not. But they need to know how to use their talent. -j aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own). Boom biddy bye bye! ***************************************************************************** The Only Colloquialism Page i know of: http://www.unc.edu/~toybox/words.html "Since i've been running out of empty, all i have is candybars and costumes to defend me" -"October", by Mike Garrigan ------------------------------ From: He Who Walks Between Subject: Re: PJ drummer On Wed, 27 Mar 1996 j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu wrote: > > > > I heard that Dave Abbruzzeze left the group because of "artistic > > differences." Don't ask me what they mean by that. > > > Eddie fired Dave because of "artistic differences"... What really pisses > me off about Vedder is that if it weren't for PJ, he wouldn't be shit. Good point. That is really annoying that he can come in being the new kid on the block and just get rid of someone there he doesn't like. What if next album him and Jeff Ament have "Artistic differences"? I would suggest that Eddie either get over it or get out. what a wus. > He'd still be in SAN DIEGO (he's not from Seattle) pumping gas. Yeah. So Eddie, > had to replace the SECOND PJ drummer with Jack Irons who he has known for > a while from San Diego.... and I think Abbruzzeze was the best drummer of > them all so far... Why did they get rid of the first drummer? No one seems to talk about that. > When i started listenin to Pj, I thought it was a group of guys that made > good music because they all had input, WHICH WAS DIFFERENT... that gave > them the formula.... good job Vedder I thought, hey, this music is new, and it's taking music in the right direction. Now i think it's experimental at times, but the end result isn't very appealing. Like "The Cherry Orchard" in theatre, if anyone knows what i'm saying. It was a real experiment and far ahead of other plays in terms of realism, but it still sucked shit. Well, i guess that's the second opinion on Eddie V from North Carolina. I still like PJ, but they are going downhill. -j aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own). Boom biddy bye bye! ***************************************************************************** The Only Colloquialism Page i know of: http://www.unc.edu/~toybox/words.html "Since i've been running out of empty, all i have is candybars and costumes to defend me" -"October", by Mike Garrigan ------------------------------ From: Razorback Subject: Hurry up May 21st!! Damn, now I wish May 21st would get here even quicker!! This little clip was in Addicted To Noise online : - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now that we've heard the new Soundgarden album, Down On The Upside, we can tell you that it's a raging hard rock album. Particularly outstanding is the epic "Blow Up the Outside World," but that's just one of 16 potent slabs of noise from the Seattle-based rockers. There's also a bluesy number, "Burden In My Hand," that begins with just acoustic guitars and vocal, before the whole band kicks in. This is a major work that should please longtime Soundgarden fans, while bringing them plenty of new ones. The album will be released on May 21. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just when I though nothing would come over Superunknown... ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: Re: SG cover of Into The Void... At 11:35 AM 3/26/96 -0800, Segundo Benjamin Orell wrote: >Better question on this song is who wrote the lyrics??? Who in the hell >is Chief Sealth?? Friend of the band ??? All I'm really sure of though is >the lyrics are right on. An Indian Chief (that's why it's "Chief" Sealth) commenting on the ideas and social actions of the Europeans coming to America. The song was done by Black Sabbath originally, so I just think that they took the letter that he wrote and put it to music. Gregg _________________________________________ | | "Don't come over here and piss on my | Check out my *NEW* homepages! | gate. Save it just keep it off My | Goto: http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | Wave"--Soundgarden | | |____________melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net___| "It's a shame when a contest of talent is turned into a popularity contest, and the best act doesn't win....so much for integrity, justice and all that bullshit." ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: Re: various ramblings and stuff... > > OH YAH!! GUESS WHAT PEOPLES??!!?? I've found someone online who claims >to have two (count 'em... TWO) guitars autographed by SG. He says he'll be >willing to part with one. I just found this late last night, so I e-mailed >him, but no response as of yet. I kinda doubt I'll be able to afford a new >guitar right now, but if he hasn't sold it yet, and it IS the genuine thing, >and I'm still broke... is anyone else out there interested in it? I'm hoping >I hear back from the guy today or tomorrow. I dunno...what good is an autographed guitar? this is not a slam towards Shroom, just my opinion. a)What are you going to do with it? Stare at it? Sell it? YOU CAN'T PLAY IT! What fun is buying a guitar that you can't play, even if SG did autograph it.....if it was FREE, well, that might be a different story. I'd prolly sell it to one of you guys if i got if for free, then buy a nice guitar and amp to play. Oh well, I ramble on and on and on and on. Gregg _________________________________________ | | "Don't come over here and piss on my | Check out my *NEW* homepages! | gate. Save it just keep it off My | Goto: http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | Wave"--Soundgarden | | |____________melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net___| "It's a shame when a contest of talent is turned into a popularity contest, and the best act doesn't win....so much for integrity, justice and all that bullshit." ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: INto the voID Let's clear up this Into the Void shit once and for all: Chief Sealth: An Indian Chief. The words to the song are taken from a speech that he made about the invading "white man" the Music:Written by F.Iommi/W.Ward/J.Osburne/T.Butler aka Black Sabbath I don't know if it was their idea to put the words from Sealth's letter/speech to the music, or if it was B.Shepherd's as was previously mentioned ThankYouGoodNight Gregg _________________________________________ | | "Don't come over here and piss on my | Check out my *NEW* homepages! | gate. Save it just keep it off My | Goto: http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | Wave"--Soundgarden | | |____________melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net___| "It's a shame when a contest of talent is turned into a popularity contest, and the best act doesn't win....so much for integrity, justice and all that bullshit." ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: Jesus Christ Pose Bassline Jesus Christ Pose Bassline: PLEASE!! CAN Someone hook me up with this!!!?? I finally got my guitarist to agree to play the song, yet i have no bassline for it!!! I am only a drummer, so I'd do a lousy job.. Even a sketchy interpertation would be appreciated! Gregg! _________________________________________ | | "Don't come over here and piss on my | Check out my *NEW* homepages! | gate. Save it just keep it off My | Goto: http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | Wave"--Soundgarden | | |____________melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net___| "It's a shame when a contest of talent is turned into a popularity contest, and the best act doesn't win....so much for integrity, justice and all that bullshit." ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: Re: Music thang At 12:33 PM 3/27/96 -0500, Michael J Sharkey wrote: > As far as AIC goes, I love their latest. The sound is so heavy, >and consistant. I am amazed that the band can continually come out with >albums with one signifigant feel, and emotion to it. Me too, I definitely think it's great. All you people who critized AIC for becoming "kindler and gentler" with "Jar of Flies" listen to this one. Be ready to be destroyed by crushing guitars and awesome vocals Gregg _________________________________________ | | "Don't come over here and piss on my | Check out my *NEW* homepages! | gate. Save it just keep it off My | Goto: http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | Wave"--Soundgarden | | |____________melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net___| "It's a shame when a contest of talent is turned into a popularity contest, and the best act doesn't win....so much for integrity, justice and all that bullshit." ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Guitar specialists & RATM fans please read!! This is something that's been bugging me for a while, and I've decided that today should become a day in which I've learned something. That is, if one of you out there can teach me. What is the technical name for the choppy guitar sound that some bands produce? When I say choppy, I mean that sound I adore in Soundgarden's "Uncovered". It's got that screechy, scratchy, stop-and-start feel about it. It sounds so cool! Do you know the sound I mean? I've heard this same technique used recently in Space Hog's song called "In The Meantime", right at the very end of that song after the singing has ended. Rage Against The Machine also use this technique a lot, particularly in their fantastic song "Bombtrack". IS there a name for that technique? Please help me if you can, for I'm looking forward to some feedback on this, to get my educational fix for the week! BTW: Speaking of RATM's "Bombtrack" - I've lost the post where someone mentioned there is a special release of that song, that comes with previously unreleased tracks. Can you please let me know the name of that CD so I can suss it out for myself? Thanks one & all, Carolyn the Maddening Freeloader ************************************************** You know what your name is & you know when you were born, but everything inbetween is just a haze.......Beasts Of Bourbon ************************************************** ------------------------------ From: EUPHORIA Subject: going downhill i have to agree with a lot of people many bands are "going down"... but i don't think that it is that there losing intensity..or running out of ideas ... i think it has a lot to do with band imput... take stp for instance core was almost all scott weiland ,will purple was a little less.. now there's tiny music... that seems to be the whole band.. i think all three are good but in different ways... its like the difference between bmf and super unknown ... there both great albums just in different ways... it has alot to do with band maturity ...like pj not being able to keep a drummer (artistic differences is just another way of saying i'm the one the fans no so your gone).... a band is a collection of emotions and artistic differences , if you have everyone in the band agreeing with one member it might as well be a solo act because it is impossible for one thing to sound exactly the same coming from different band members or strike up the same emotions with everyone involved in the song.... euphoria airohpue HATE,IF YOU WANT TO HATE IF IT KEEPS YOU SAFE IF IT MAKES YOU BRAVE ------------------------------ From: wxs129@psu.edu (Kesa) Subject: Re: PJ drummer >Why did they get rid of the first drummer? No one seems to talk about that. The first drummer was Dave Krusen. He left the group because he was having difficulties with his girlfriend. Must have been one heck of a girlfriend. Kesa ,,,, (-_-) /_o_\ ------------------------------ From: Ross Filipek Subject: Re: PJ drummer I think they got rid of Dave Kruzen right after they recorded "Ten." I'm sure it was for "artistic differences" as well. Ross - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, He Who Walks Between wrote: > Why did they get rid of the first drummer? No one seems to talk about that. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "But in your heart I'd freeze." --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Re: various ramblings and stuff... >I dunno...what good is an autographed guitar? this is not a slam towards >Shroom, >just my opinion. a)What are you going to do with it? Stare at it? Sell it? >YOU CAN'T PLAY IT! What fun is buying a guitar that you can't play, even if >SG did autograph it.....if it was FREE, well, that might be a different >story. >I'd prolly sell it to one of you guys if i got if for free, then buy a nice >guitar and amp to You're totally right, Gregg. Shit... I can't even play the guitars I have now. A thousand fucking dollars for a guitar. If I had a grand, I'd buy something really cool with it... like every SG CD and vid boot I could find. Besides, I already have SG's autographs. I ordered them from a company that specializes in celebrity autographs. Cost me $40. Unfortunately the picture/autographs came from the LTL tour era, so that weenie Jason Everman is on it. Like I really wanted JE's signature. I wish I could have gotten Hiro's. Oh well... Shroom ***I made ya get down on your hands and knees... *** Chris Cornell ------------------------------ From: dao5@Lehigh.EDU (Dave Oldfield) Subject: RE: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 27 Mar 1996 >I feel so betrayed by you all. "Times of Trouble" rocks a hell of a lot >more than Footsteps!!!! Wow, maybe I should make my own "Real >Soundgarden Fans List" and boot everyone off who blasphemed the good ole >SG. But then I'd be like Mussillini or something. I'll just let it >rest. I know that Chris like's both, but at least I know better! > Sadly, the only true SG fan left, > McCheese I'm with you McCheese I like Chris's version better. But again in most cases for me with totd songs. I don't like the why McCreedy played it. I think I would like it better if someone else played it. Like Ben Shepherd perhaps? -Clown > Ok, I'll make one execption... Country Radio! Garth and his ilk >make me sick to my stomach! There, I feel better now. [NOTE: I do like >Patsy Kline and old Johnny Cash]. I agree with you wholeheartedly, I hate country music, it's the most limiting genre of music on earth. Country music personifies why music shouldn't be classified. Because all the songs sound the same and have the same basic lyrics. If you change the songs in a attempt to push back the frontiers of music. (Imagine a musician doing that.) It's no longer country music. I like KD Lang but she changed her sound, so now she's shunned by country music. Uggh I hate that crap. I'll shut up now before you all think I am insane. -Clown ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: cool post Hey people... just thought I'd share a cute post I found on nasty old AOL: >Kim Thayil is the seeds, peoples. This guy is the finest bug eyed >genius rock and roll has seen since King Diamond was fronting >Mercyful Fate in the early 80's. Worship him, before Budweiser takes his >life. Ummmm... yer welcome, and stuff. Shroom - - A snarl, a sneer, a whip that stings, these are a few of my favorite things. (My impression of Nothingman...) ***I made ya get down on your hands and knees... *** Chris Cornell ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: Re: PJ drummer J wrote: > Why did they get rid of the first drummer? The version I heard: I heard that Dave Kruzen left PJ because he wanted to marry and settle. I doubt anyone would do that these days (except for the weirdo of me). I would doubt who to choose if I had to decide between them > [...] but they are going downhill. I hate to say it, but I agree. Oh.. and BTW, Dave Abruzzezze (or whatever way it is spelled) wasn't the second drummer. The second was a guy named Matt Chamberlain. URBANO ______________________________________________________________ |... ed il mio bacio sciogliera il silenzio che ti fa mia. | |[and my kiss will dissolve the silence which makes you mine]| |____________________________________________________________| |____________ Puccini: Turandot (act 3) ____________________| \__________________________/ ------------------------------ Subject: in my ear... From: seth I'm a bit late in responding to this thread, but I couldn't resist after today's excellent shopping spree. In my CD player: Alternative NRG (Hollywood Records, 1994) I agree with Blind Dog -- buy this if you can. The version of "New Damage" with Brian May is superb. Bought it used for $4. Pigeonhed: "Theme from Pigeonhed" CD5 (Sub Pop, 1993) Pigeonhed is great, and the remix of the "Theme" is very entertaining. German import, picked it up for $3. Soundgarden: Loudest Love (A&M, 1990) This is a pretty decent band out of Seattle; I've noticed that some people on this list seem to like them a lot. I've already heard all of the songs on this disc, but for $12, I couldn't resist. It even came with the lyric sheet in Japanese and the Japanese spine cover from when it was for sale there. On the turntable: Skin Yard (C/Z, 1986) Clear vinyl! Haven't listened to it yet, but I'm looking forward to it, as it features Mr. Matthew Cameron on drums. 4 bucks. On top of the turntable: Soundgarden: "Thank You (Falettin Me Be Mice Elf Agin)"/"Everybody's Got Something to Hide" (Lo-Fi Records) 7" bootleg, cost me $6. Eagerly looking forward to listening to this one, too. I love 7" boots; it just strikes me as odd that they even exist in today's CD-driven market. Sonic Youth: "Death Valley 69"/"Brave Men Run" (My So Called Records, 1984) What luck, stumbling upon this so soon after it was decided that this track is at the end of Soundgarden's cover of "Smokestack Lightning"! $4. Near the turntable: Truly: "Blue Flame Ford" (Capitol, 1995) A 10" EP that includes the non-album track "Aliens on Alcohol." This cost me $3 for a *sealed* copy. I haven't decided yet whether or not I'm going to open it. All in all, a good day, and it makes me look like I listen to Soundgarden-related music all the time, like every good listadmin should. :) seth ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: Re: talented singers Carolyn wrote: > Because of the emotion Eddie uses when he sings. > That's what *I* love about Pearl Jam, anyway. Of course...emotion is Eddie's roll in PJ. And, besides, the high tones Chris can reach are the same Eddie can reach downwards. I find it equaly difficult to reach the lower octaves... He Who Walks Between wrote: > but it doesn't mean i think the music produced > by someone talented is automatically goodYeah... as I said a while ago both Mariah Carey and Dolores O'Riordan both can perform amazing things with their voices, but they both also abuse of their gift. Zombie is an insult to the falsette. I also heard a song by Mariah CArey where she made this ultra high tone, incredible yes, but I think it's still an abuse. > For instance, i think Eddie Van Halen is an awesome guitar player, > but i still think all the music he plays sucks. I argued with someone last year about this. Perhaps Eddie Van Halen is very creative (he has invented a lot of new techniques), but he hasn't composed more than one or less songs that I like. Besides he grew a beard to hide his mongolic face :^) URBANO ______________________________________________________________ |... ed il mio bacio sciogliera il silenzio che ti fa mia. | |[and my kiss will dissolve the silence which makes you mine]| |____________________________________________________________| |____________ Puccini: Turandot (act 3) ____________________| \__________________________/ ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: Re: going downhill EUPHORIA wrote: > i have to agree with a lot of people many bands are "going down"...I think that one of these days britpop will take over (I'm not saying it's bad) and we will remain as elderly people who listen to the music from the past generation... Just like dads who listen to the Beatles, the Doors and such... cool... URBANO ... and we would be in a list of VERY few people ... ______________________________________________________________ |... ed il mio bacio sciogliera il silenzio che ti fa mia. | |[and my kiss will dissolve the silence which makes you mine]| |____________________________________________________________| |____________ Puccini: Turandot (act 3) ____________________| \__________________________/ ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Music thang MJ> Obviously I am writing because I think differently. First, I MJ>think Vitalogy is a good album for PJ, because I think they let Vedder MJ>get his whole, "Man am I fucked up" emotion out. I thhink there are a lot of good somgs on this album, like Immortality (one of my favorites, even though the lyrics are a mystery to me), Nothingman (describes me, hence my name), Betterman (which describes what I am to my ex...which is why she always asks me back), and Not For You. There is a lot of emotion throughout the album (which I LOVE to see in music), but I'd still have to say that Ten is their best album all together. Vs. had some good songs, too, but neither of them are as good, throughout the whole album, as Ten. MJ>I am sick of hearing albums MJ>from bands that are the same old same old. For example, who the fuck still MJ>listens to MJ>AC-DC, and why do you need to own more than one of their albums? I like some AC/DC songs, but they are the ones that all sound the same, so I just bought the live album and had everything. Back in Black is a classic, though. MJ> As far as AIC goes, I love their latest. The sound is so heavy, MJ>and consistant. I am amazed that the band can continually come out with MJ>albums with one signifigant feel, and emotion to it. Uhhh, didn't you just contradict yourself? You don't like bands that put out the same stuff over and over, but AIC is "The sound is so heavy, and consistant....the band can continually come out with albums with one signifigant feel, and emotion to it." and you like them because of it? I agree that the emotions are about the same, but the sound is a bit different, although not a whole lot. But I still like them. Facelift is my favorite AIC album. Hmmm...all my favorite albums from a lot of recent bands seem to be their first albums (except Soundgarden, because it changes a lot). NIN, Primus, Pearl Jam, AIC, Candlebox, and Mariah Carey....just kidding. ;) Nothingman -Don't cut out my paper heart, I ain't dying anyway. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: CD ROM GR>The only recourse is to find a CD-ROM drive that supports CD+. Good GR>luck. Most of the tech support people don't even know. What I've found GR>is the following: GR>1. Gateway 2000's used to come with a Mitsumi 4x IDE CD-ROM that GR> would read CD+. GR>2. There were a few Creative Labs' 4x drive that did as well. GR> The newer 6x drive will not, nor will the older 2x drives GR> that used the non-IDE connector. GR>3. The NEC 260 IDE drive will not work. I don't know what my CD ROM is (I do know it's a quad speed CD ROM), but it came with my computer, and it's a Packard Bell Legend 108CD Supreme. I know, Packard Bells suck, but mine rules. I popped in the CD+ (didn't even install the other junk, just put in the Alive... disk) and it worked. I love my computer. It runs very smooth, too. Nothingman -I love it when a plan comes together. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: Kickstand revisited... ME> is a bi, listen for him to scream, "I'm FUCKING BISEXUAL!" ME> somewhere in the new album. That's all. That would be SOOO funny if he screamed that in the new album. But really, though. HAs anyone listened to the individual music tracks from the CD+? Not the normal songs, but the ones where they're just jamming (no words). Maybe we'll hear more of this on the new album. It'd be fine with me, I love it! And somewhere in there, he'll scream, "I WANNA FUCK YOU, BEN!" It would explain why Chris puts up with him spitting on people and being an asshole sometimes. ;) Nothingman -My goal for this summer: Be a jerk at Lolla and make Ben spit on me. :) ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Older and wiser or is that fatter,crankier and har TO>Getting old sure as hell TO>beats waking up some Thursday morning DEAD!!!! That's incouraging, considering I'm gonna wake up in the morning, and it will be THURSDAY! I just hope I'm not dead...although it could be for the better. ;) TO> And as far as Chris TO>getting older. It is probably a good thing all this sucess came when he was TO>more mature and maybe could handle it better. Some of these young bands TO>that get sucessful very quickly tend to crash and burn either emotionally TO>or musically!!! Yeah.. And they didn't get successful on their first album either (helluva newsflash!). A lot of bands get successful right off the bat, and then you don't see anything else from them. I think the experience helped Soundgarden out too. Pearl Jam (mostly Eddie) was all of a sudden the new rock god, and he's never been in that postion before. I'm sure Chris and the boys have had those feelings, just on a smaller scale (when they first started), so they can relate them to now when they're the new rock gods. Right now there's tons of bands I've never heard of making it in the big world of MTV and radio. And I doubt we'll hear anything else out of (at least) some of these bands, because they can't handle the pressure, or whatever it is. I guess we'll never know unless we do it, too. TO> And we all want SG to be around for a while!! Amen! TO>Besides all TO>this talk about being old at 22 makes me feel like Bob Dole!! Toni HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! It can't be THAT bad. Nothingman -I told you five or four times. ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: IRC Listen.... Chris Mackenzie and I (the ugly URBANO) where wondering if any somms members would be interested in founding an IRC channel like #SOMMS or something... The list has been populated lately whith unrelated threads that go from computers to Cindy Crawford... so we think it would be a great idea to disscuss those in IRC better. Oh... and of course... a bit of Soundgarden. Please let us know if anybody interested.... URBANO ______________________________________________________________ |... ed il mio bacio sciogliera il silenzio che ti fa mia. | |[and my kiss will dissolve the silence which makes you mine]| |____________________________________________________________| |____________ Puccini: Turandot (act 3) ____________________| \__________________________/ ------------------------------ From: the Kimmenator Subject: Re: PJ drummer (fwd) On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Ross Filipek wrote: > I think they got rid of Dave Kruzen right after they recorded "Ten." I'm > sure it was for "artistic differences" as well. dave krusen checked himself into rehab right after the band did a newyears gig post-ten...he quit the band, the band didn't quit him...he had personal problems with his girlfriend and alcohol that needed to be sorted out...krusen put himself first...quit the band on his own and sorted out his life... and thats, the rest of the story. kimmenator. =--= Losing myself in a white trash hell... kiM, the Kimmenator, just that freak with mountainbikes and plaid boots. kab004@acad.drake.edu -or- kab004@dunix.drake.edu ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: Awesome Article!!! Read or die slowly and painfully!!! I just spent the last 1 and 1/2 hours typing this sucker, so read it dammit! :) This is the article that talks about Into The Void and Cop Killer. This is one of the better SG articles I've read, very informative. Oh yeah, Seth, if this article is already on your page, please shoot me when you get the chance. Thanx. "SOUNDGARDEN" taken from "Guitar For The Practicing Musician" December 1992 issue. Upon hearing KISS Alive in high school, Kim Thayil knew he wanted to be a guitar player. Upon hearing the MC5, he knew he wanted his guitar to be a weapon. "We Hung out with a couple guys from MC5 who came to see our show in Detroit," says Thayil, now prime guitar hero of Soundgarden. "Wayne Kramer was really into what we were doing. He saw a distant similarity of what they had been. That was flattering. Of course musically there's a difference. They were a trippy, three-chord, fuck-the-police band. We're a weird, where-should-we-put-this-note, fuck-the-police kind of band" You guys both beat riffs to death, though. "Yeah, were both riff rockers." Is it all feel, or do you have consciously expanded into different scales in your search for a place to put that weird note? "A lot of it is feel, but that feel tends to go toward the minor thing a lot, not minor chords so much as minor scales. The way things wind around each other. You got this riff, and it's like a tether call pole, or a Maypole with ribbons, and you wind the song around the center of this pole." Any particular scales you're prone to for winding? Say, Mixolodian? "Minoxydilian. My hair is thinning, so I prefer Minoxydilian. Perhaps you've noticed when you watched us live. 'All right! He's got less hair than me!' " That was pretty thrilling but the crowd got off more when you did "Cop Killer" by Body Count. It has so much notoriety that people forget its actually a great punk song, very simple compared to your material. "Yeah, it is different. I don't know if the crowd actually heard it before. We've been doing it since Detroit, when I heard Ice T was droppping it from the album. We want to get a whole bunch of people doing that song, make sure it lives in spite of the complaints." Seems like the censorship issue has backfired on the social conservatives to the extent that its forcing the rock'n'roll community to become political. "I suppose the rock'n'roll community has an interest in it as artists. But we all know where the real power lies--with the RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) and their profit line. They want to sell what they want to who they want, and they don't want the government to cut out a big chunk of their market. I suppose that exists in the industry...'WE WANNA SELL GUNS TO 10-YEAR-OLDS!' " Soundgarden's lyrics aren't overtly political, but the imagery of rot and violence and corrupt power in songs like "Rusty Cage" and "Slaves & Bulldozers" could be seen as a critique of late-stage capitalism, or whatever it is that's wrecking the world. "I don't know if Chris is a market economist," says Thayil of Soundgarden's singer/lyricist Chris Cornell. "The lyrics aren't general enough and vivid enough that they can be used to describe a lot of situations generically. Like conflicts; it's like reading a novel [about] man's conflict with himself and society, or the government, or his family, or the economy, or anything." Whatever the issue, it usually comes back to money. "Oh, yeah. All social issues are economic." Thayil grew up in Park Forest, Illinois. His father worked for the Environmental Protection Agency, and his mother taught English in junior high. He attended the local alternative high school with Bruce Pavitt, who later founded the prime incubator of Seattle grunge, Sub Pop. The Ramones, Dead Boys and Sex Pistols inspired him on first hearing and he forced three non-punk friends into joining his punk band Bozo and his vast Army of Pinheads. After a brief stay at the University of Illinois where he found no kindred spirits ("They sat around in their long underwear and thought Frank Zappa was punk"), he loafed around until he was overcome by fear that his father would make him get a job as an assistant manager at a fried chicken joint. With his friend and original Soundgarden bassist Hiro Yamomoto, he moved west, eventually majoring in philosophy at the University of Washington. Had he learned anything there that applies to his present career? "I suppose. Anything I would do could easily have reference points to something I learned in the past, which could include my study in philosophy. Not directly. They didn't teach me to play guitar." Maybe logical positivism informed your appreciation of the Stooges? "No, I didn't specialize in a particualr school. I may have learned some things in aesthetics that helped me approach songwriting." Like what? "Ideas on minimalism. Or ditching conceptualism and symbolism. A lot of pop and rock and folk artists tend to get caught up in that kind of shit." What do you mean by "ditching conceptualism"? "Having constructs that represent something other than what it is. Why should a song or piece of music represent twice removed when it has a reality of its own?" The reality of Soundgarden is that relentless minor key thing. You don't let your audience come up for air. "That's something we probably get from Public Image or Killing Joke. The repetitiveness, the pounding it into one's head. Of course, Ministry has even more of those elements." On A&M's reissue of Badmotorfinger, they through in a bonus EP that includes a cover of Black Sabbath's "Into The Void" with the words changed to a speech by Cheif Seattle about the white man's destruction of the environment. That was our bass player's idea. Ben Shepherd. He noticed a similarity in the meter of the lyrics. And Chris made them fit. It was just such a Seattle thing to cover a Sabbath song, and then use the lyrics of the man whom our town was named after. Kinda funny. Born of sincerity, but it also had its humor." Whose idea was "Stray Cat Blues"? Your version is so much darker than the 'Stones'. "That was Ben's idea, too. He just played it for us and we liked it. I didn't use any of Keith's tunings. My E string is firmly in place. Our version is more threatening, like we're going to kill ourselves." Seems like there was a lot of stray cat action back stage at Jones Beach. "Probably not on our part. Maybe some of those other ambitious, resourceful bands." That aspect of rock'n'roll stardom isn't part of the Soundgarden ambience? "Not at all. Sex and drugs are not neccessarily correlated with being a rock musician." You were quoted in Rolling Stone as saying "I may not want to meet any more pople." Touring seems to be especially hard on introverts. After a certain point, they have a nervous breakdown from dealing with strangers. "Exactly. You've hit the nail on the head--now there's a cliche for you. I get anxiety attacks, seriously paranoid, dealing with strangers in these situations. And the sad thing is, you might meet someone who could be your best friend in life, but you don't have time to find out. You don't have time for the people you already care about, including yourself. The compensation, of course, is the fun of playing." So what do you do when you go back to the hotel? Read a book? "I watch sports on TV and masturbate simultaneously." You must have had a good workout during the Olympics. "Exactly. Gotta keep that wrist in shape." Any other practice tips you could share with our readers? "Mostly just noodle around, which is how I learned to play guitar. Sitting in front of the TV or radio. Like a nervous habit. That's where all the diddlies and wheedlies come from." Once Thayil decides on which diddlies and wheedlies, he plays them on a Guild S-l, a Gibson Firebird and "Diet" Les Paul (the Studio Lite), which go through a Peavy VPM-120 amp. He often retorts to dropped D (and lower) tuning--one of the trademarks o Seattle grunge--but claims not to be experimenting. "W just do it to make certain songs easier to play," he says. "We do it to spark songwriting." What's the difference between the Lollapalooza audience and the crowd when you were opening for Guns N'Roses? "Guns N'Roses had greater diversity classwise. It wasn't just white, leisure-class, suburban, 18-to-24-year-old kids who don't vote. What you saw at Jones Beach, that's the way it is at every single show. With Guns N'Roses, you'd have more of a mix between working-class kids and suburban. Lollapalooza seems to foster the sort of elitism that alienates people who work for a living. It's really getting on my nerves. Guns N'Roses was really cool because a guy getting off his factory job to see a band he believed in would feel welcome. That isn't true around here." ------------------------------ From: "Q-BERT (McCHEESE)" Subject: Re: IRC What a good Idea!!!!!!! That would clean up the list's randomness a lot, whatever an IRC is. I'm all for it!!!!! Mayor McCheese posing as Q-Bert of 2600 fame On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, URBANO wrote: > Chris Mackenzie and I (the ugly URBANO) where wondering > if any somms members would be interested in founding > an IRC channel like #SOMMS or something... The list > has been populated lately whith unrelated threads that > go from computers to Cindy Crawford... so we think it > would be a great idea to disscuss those in IRC better. > Oh... and of course... a bit of Soundgarden. Please let > us know if anybody interested.... > URBANO XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Jesus saves souls and redeems them for valuable cash prizes. **By receiving this letter you can join the OFFICIAL MAYOR McCHEESE SOUNDGARDEN CAMPING EXTRAVAGANZA in Detroit Lakes, Minnesota now by replying to this letter with thesubject: CAMPING TRIP! Or type f beyera@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu for info on how you can join!*** ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: Contest Has anyone entered to that contest to win the Soundgarden snowboard? (The one announced on the official site) URBANO ______________________________________________________________ |... ed il mio bacio sciogliera il silenzio che ti fa mia. | |[and my kiss will dissolve the silence which makes you mine]| |____________________________________________________________| |____________ Puccini: Turandot (act 3) ____________________| \__________________________/ ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 78] ***************************************