From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 5 Apr 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 03:34:11 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Friday, 5 Apr 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: This ain't no hangin' matter... HI he's a politician Re: Help on the CD+ thing Footsteps vs. Times... Fuck,read me! Re: IRC Re: HI Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 3 Apr 1996 icancountitonmyfingers Re: Fuck,read me! SG vid shoot today Re: Help on the CD+ thing Re: Reading Boot Cornell ramblings & other offensive stuff today's addicted to noise Re: Fuck,read me! Re: icancountitonmyfingers Very cool #somms Re: HI I made ya get down on your hands and knees versatility versatility Re: IRC Soundgarden fanzine? Re: I made ya get down on your hands and knees ------------------------------------------------------------ From: btimlake@nwu.edu (Ben Timberlake) Subject: Re: This ain't no hangin' matter... >On the Rocktropolis page they've got "Blow Up the Outside" instead of >"Blow Up the Outside World" in the track list. Anybody know which one is >correct? I saw that, too. I think it's just because they ran out of room. Wouldn't want to break up that modular design. - Ben Ben Timberlake "Do one thing for me, Northwestern University Sredni Vashtar." Medill School of Journalism - Saki btimlake@nwu.edu -30- "If I should be short on words and long on things to say, could you crawl into my world and take these words away?" - Chris Cornell, "Seasons" ------------------------------ From: Jerry Chang Subject: HI Hi, don't flame me because I'm a new fan of Soundgarden... Can one of you Soundgarden gurus out there please tell me how they got the album names Badmotorfinger and Superunknown... and why.. if there IS a reason at all.... thank you Jerry ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: he's a politician just a short message to tell everybody who intends to vote for their favourite old soundgarden song, to get the votes in by easter monday. please only vote for one song and make sure it is off one of the first three albums/e.ps released. thanks. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Ho-Seop Kim Subject: Re: Help on the CD+ thing Greg Bensimon wrote: > Maybe what we need is a spot on Seth's page titled "CD-ROM Drives >that Let You Enjoy AITS". Everybody who has had success could post what >CD-ROM drive (manufacturer and model number) they are using. Great idea, Greg. And my 4x Toshiba CD-ROM drive doesn't work either. :^( Plextor 4x SCSI and LG electronics 4x EIDE work just fine. That teases me so bad that now I'm considering buying a brand new 6x or 8x drive, this time double-checking CD+ ability. - -- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ho-Seop Kim, Research engineer, Daewoo Telecom Like thunder needs rain, e-mail : hskim@eros.dwt.co.kr like the preacher needs pain, URL : http://coolest.dwt.co.kr/ I need your love. -- U2 - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: btimlake@nwu.edu (Ben Timberlake) Subject: Footsteps vs. Times... I'll agree that Footsteps has more emotion, but Times of Trouble appeals to me more musically. I guess that arrangement is one that doesn't really benefit from being played acoustic. I especially like the use of piano in Times, especially the melancholy crescendo before the chorus. It makes sense that Footsteps has more emotion - It's about Eddie Vedder's life (or what his life could have been). But sometimes I think that if Eddie Vedder took a shit and put it on display, people would call it emotional. Okay, I don't really mean that, but I don't want to take it out because I find it funny. So, I've arrived at a personal musical epiphany: Emotion does not necessarily mean a song is musically appealling. - Ben Ben Timberlake "Do one thing for me, Northwestern University Sredni Vashtar." Medill School of Journalism - Saki btimlake@nwu.edu -30- "If I should be short on words and long on things to say, could you crawl into my world and take these words away?" - Chris Cornell, "Seasons" ------------------------------ From: press@digiface.nl ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= de Saint-Obin PPS) Hello everybody! This is the first time that I am writing an e-mail,funny! I hope I'll get reactions on my letter.I'm sure that there is somebody on the world who wants to talk with me about Chris Cornell.Since a year i'm a real Soundgardenfan and also from Chris Cornell.He is super!I have fifteen cd's from Soundgarden or with Soundgardenmembers on it, like for example, the single "Sap" from Alice in Chains, with a song where Chris C. also sings on . Is there anybody who have also the soundtrack from the film "Singles"? I only like the songs from Pearl Jam, Soundgarden (surprise!) Smashing Pumpkins and Alice in Cains.I never listen to the rest from the songs.I specially hate the songs from Paul Westerberg,Jesus, what kind of singer is that? It's horrible! If you are still reading my message,congratulations,that is very special for such a boring story!I want to the Lollapalooza festival because Soundgarden are gonna play there.fortunatley I live in Amsterdam,so it is a little bit expensive.I have never been to a Soundgarden concert.They have the reputation that they are not so good live, but I don't care, I want to their concert! Oke,I'll quit my "exiting" letter. Bye, tirza ------------------------------ From: press@digiface.nl ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= de Saint-Obin PPS) Subject: Fuck,read me! Hello everybody! Fuck.fuck,fuck, I hate this! I had just written a beautiful letter,because this is my first e-mail, and now it's gone because I forgot to save it.Shit,sometimes I'm so stupid.It is now too late to write an newone this evening. Is there anybody who wants to write with me about Chris Cornell? Or Soundgarden,or about the FRUSTRATION when you forgot to save something on the computer!Oke,I'll quit,I hope to write with you,reader, maybe than I will get better in saving letters! Bye, Tirza Cornell ------------------------------ From: onefellswoop Subject: Re: IRC If you have a lsip connection, acquire some IRC software, and install it, then start your slip connection and start the IRC software and log on to the nearest IRC server. (say, us.undernet.org) Hope this helps. It's actually pretty simple. On Wed, 3 Apr 1996 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote: > CM>There's discussion on IRC tonight so head on over to #somms on undernet. > > How might I go about this IRC thing? > > Nothingman > > -Well, pardon me all to hell. > ------------------------------ From: onefellswoop Subject: Re: HI If you check out Seth's web page in the multimedia section, there is a soundbite from Kim, from MuchMusic, and he explains BMF. It sounds as if they just came up with it. He said its just a "heavy, colorful word that sort of rolls off of your tongue". What I want to know is how they came up with satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas. Does anyone know any details on this one? On Thu, 4 Apr 1996, Jerry Chang wrote: > Hi, don't flame me because I'm a new fan of Soundgarden... > Can one of you Soundgarden gurus out there please tell me how they got > the album names Badmotorfinger and Superunknown... and why.. > if there IS a reason at all.... > thank you > Jerry > ------------------------------ From: dao5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 3 Apr 1996 > Did you ever stop to think that maybe Eddie's not hogging the >spotlight? That maybe he was jumped on by the media? That maybe that's why >he doesn't want to be in the media? That he wants the emphasis on the BAND, >not him? Don't jump to conclusions. You don't like PJ musically, and I can >respect that. In fact, I definitely agree that there are bands out there who >are more musically talented than PJ (SG being one of them). But don't dis >the musicians as people just because of that. Eddie is the victim of some >things he can't control(ie., the media, MTV, pouser fakes, etc.). Give him >a chance as a person, if not a singer. My point was that there was a spell where Eddie Vedder was on the cover of every major music/entertainment magazine complaining about being famous. Then he is on the grammys making comments that are destined to generate media attention. If he doesn't want media attention, don't agree to do interviews, don't randomly show up on david lettermen, don't make stupid comments on award shows. To put it very simply keep to yourself and shut up. Theres another band that doesn't enjoy a media spotlight and keeps quiet, can't quite remember there name though. I heard they have a mailing list though..... > That's all folks. If there's anyone out there who would like to >comment more, just send a message to the Digest. I wouldn't advise that, if you post to the digest, Seth has some idea's about pertaining to firearms that he might use against you if you do. > One last time: > I don't hate preppies. > I don't hate rich people. > I do hate people who switch clothes/hair/music/ways of life at > the drop of a hat, just so they'll be cool according to > MTV. > As stated before, be original for once in your pathetic lives. > See ya, Dun My point is you should judge people for there actions not there apppearence/juvenile social grouping. Because if you do then your the same as the people who go around beating people up who look/act differrent. Clown ------------------------------ From: mike atwood Subject: icancountitonmyfingers i've been on this list for a while so i guess i'll post. Anyway, i've seen the soundgarden video "?" (i don't know what the hell it's called) in stores and i think it's got live stuff or something from badmotorfinger on it and i'm wondering... should i buy this? Is it worth it? Cause i got that damn alice in chains "mona tapes" video and felt supremely ripped off. Good vids: Mad Season's video, RHCP's funky monks, and of course Nirvana's live tonight sold out, i completely dig that part where they play smells like.. and the band isn't really playing and kurt sings all fucked up, and those stupid fucking dance kids (why dance, think about it, does it make any fucking sense) are totally into it. that clip showed what music should be about. Its all fuck you. thats all. Mike ------------------------------ From: toybox Subject: Re: Fuck,read me! > Fuck.fuck,fuck, I hate this! I had just written a beautiful letter,because > Is there > anybody who wants to write with me about Chris Cornell? Looks like shroom's gonna have a new friend.... And just to keep the heat down (excuse the pun), does any guitarist know what kind of harmonics are used on limo wreck? I'm not sure if this is right, but i was taught that natural harmonics are when you have your finger on the fret itself instead of between frets. That's not quite what it sounds like to me when i TRY to play it. Any one have a clue? -j ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: SG vid shoot today >None other than the poster art king himself, Frank Kozik will direct the first >Soundgarden video, which is for the lead single "Pretty Noose," off the group's soon-to-be-released new album, Down On >The Upside. Kozik is off to Seattle to today to get to work on the video. The iconoclastic artist, whose edgy graphic style >defines late '90s rock & roll (as well as ATN's graphic look), says he sent off a treatment to the band, and thought "no way >they're going to go for this." Next thing he knew he'd been hired. "No band performance, no acting," he said. "Most of it will be >shot at the OK Hotel [a very hip club/gallery/hotel] in Seattle. The band will be seen in it. How would I describe it? A >semi-psychedelic glimpse at the downside of alternative culture." And from Kozik, what else should we expect? The album will >be released in late May, which is when the group will open the Soundgarden web site and conduct an on-line chat there. All >leading up to the group's Lollapalooza gig this summer. glad to see they're not segregating themselves to AOL chat (sorry shroom, nothing personal ;-) ). video shoot today?! argh! the office is going on a field trip to the BEACH and i want to go to Pioneer Square NOW ------------------------------ From: Anthony F Pousen Subject: Re: Help on the CD+ thing > Great idea, Greg. And my 4x Toshiba CD-ROM drive doesn't work > either. :^( Plextor 4x SCSI and LG electronics 4x EIDE work just fine. I got a Toshiba 4X CD-ROM drive and it works just fine with the AITS CD+. It's model # is XM-5302B. I just put the AITS disc in the drive and let it install itself, and I haven't had any problems at all with it! Anthony ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: Re: Reading Boot I do, I do Gregg e-mail me At 04:55 PM 4/3/96 -0500, J.T. Myers wrote: >Does anybody have a copy of the Reading bootleg that they'd be willing to >trade? I have Fortissimo, Supermainstream, Stolen Prayers, and Digging the >Garden as well as every non-LP song from singles, compilations etc. E-mail >me if you're interested. > > J.T. > > _________________________________________ | | "Don't come over here and piss on my | Check out my *NEW* homepages! | gate. Save it just keep it off My | Goto: http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | Wave"--Soundgarden | | |____________melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net___| "It's a shame when a contest of talent is turned into a popularity contest, and the best act doesn't win....so much for integrity, justice and all that bullshit." ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Cornell ramblings & other offensive stuff Ummm... the new video sounds groovy. But the IMPORTANT question is... is there going to be any half-naked bodies running around? Ummm... forget I said that. I LOVE YOU GUYS!!! Heheheh... Y'know... on the advice of many of my fellow SG freaks here on the list, I've checked out Inflatable Soule. Ok... I haven't actually checked out their music yet. So shoot me. But I had been desperately searching for a picture of the group, 'cuz I heard from SOMEONE who knows... not naming any names (deb)... that Peter is the really hot Cornell. And today, I am happy to announce that I have found a teeny-tiny picture of IS. And even BETTER... there's a picture of Chris (sans shirt) on the SAME page!! Now, I know this isn't of interest to most of the list, but I feel that I owe it to my fellow CC sexy body worshippers out there to post this info. Of course... most of them probably already knew about it, and were in cahoots to keep me from it. I swear it's a conspiracy... ANYWAY, enough paranoia. On this picture of IS, Peter does indeed look like Chris, but with a bad hair-do. That's just a Shroom opinion people. I don't wanna get flamed for flaming Peter's hair. I think I drank too much coffee at lunch, I have this amazing caffeine buzz. But if any of you people are as Inflatable Soule and Cornell sibling ignorant as I... check out this link... 'cuz you won't be disappointed. http://www.sgi.net/syzygy/bandpics.html Shroom PS... I finally listened to that "Footsteps" song, and it sucks big donkey di... ummm... I mean, it's not a GRAND PJ song. "Yellow Ledbetter" is still the best. And there's no way in hell it's as good as "Times...". Thank yew and goodnight... ***I made ya get down on your hands and knees... *** Chris Cornell ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: today's addicted to noise From today's 4/4 Addicted to Noise Music news of the World: http://www.addict.com/ATN - ---------------------------------------------- None other than the poster art king himself, Frank Kozik will direct the first Soundgarden video, which is for the lead single "Pretty Noose," off the group's soon-to-be-released new album, Down On The Upside. Kozik is off to Seattle to today to get to work on the video. The iconoclastic artist, whose edgy graphic style defines late '90s rock & roll (as well as ATN's graphic look), says he sent off a treatment to the band, and thought "no way they're going to go for this." Next thing he knew he'd been hired. "No band performance, no acting," he said. "Most of it will be shot at the OK Hotel [a very hip club/gallery/hotel] in Seattle. The band will be seen in it. How would I describe it? A semi-psychedelic glimpse at the downside of alternative culture." And from Kozik, what else should we expect? The album will be released in late May, which is when the group will open the Soundgarden web site and conduct an on-line chat there. All leading up to the group's Lollapalooza gig this summer. - -- Steve - - swr@acsu.buffalo.edu - - http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~swr - - SG Web Alliance ------------------------------ From: ward brandon t Subject: Re: Fuck,read me! the harmonics on Limo Wreck are natural harmonics which are produced by lightly placing your finger on the string, *above* the fret. the easiest place to execute harmonics are at the 5, 7, and 12th frets, although there are many other places as well. One cool thing to do with harmonics is to bend them by depressing on the string behind the nut after the harmonic is sounded. enjoy! On Thu, 4 Apr 1996, toybox wrote: > > Fuck.fuck,fuck, I hate this! I had just written a beautiful letter,because > > Is there > > anybody who wants to write with me about Chris Cornell? > > Looks like shroom's gonna have a new friend.... > > And just to keep the heat down (excuse the pun), does any guitarist > know what kind of harmonics are used on limo wreck? I'm not sure if > this is right, but i was taught that natural harmonics are when you > have your finger on the fret itself instead of between frets. > That's not quite what it sounds like to me when i TRY to play it. > Any one have a clue? -j > ------------------------------ From: ward brandon t Subject: Re: icancountitonmyfingers BUY IT! the video is called Motorvision, and it is BMF stuff. The concurrence among most people is that this is better than Louder than Live, SG's video from LTL. On Thu, 4 Apr 1996, mike atwood wrote: > i've been on this list for a while so i guess i'll post. > > Anyway, i've seen the soundgarden video "?" (i don't know what the hell > it's called) in stores and i think it's got live stuff or something from > badmotorfinger on it and i'm wondering... > > should i buy this? > > Is it worth it? > > Cause i got that damn alice in chains "mona tapes" video and felt > supremely ripped off. > > Good vids: Mad Season's video, RHCP's funky monks, and of course > Nirvana's live tonight sold out, i completely dig that part where they > play smells like.. and the band isn't really playing and kurt sings all > fucked up, and those stupid fucking dance kids (why dance, think about > it, does it make any fucking sense) are totally into it. > > that clip showed what music should be about. > > Its all fuck you. > > > thats all. > > > Mike > ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Very cool Ummm... hey everyone. This really has no relevence to anything much, I guess. But if any of y'all haven't gotten around to checking out the member's directory of Seth's SG page, then when you FINALLY do... I recommend checking out THE coolest picture on the page... Ben Timberlake's. Ben, I gotta say... that is THE grooviest thing I've seen in a LONG time. It really freaked me out for a minute, but I was a little intoxicated when I was looking at it. Nothing quite like alcohol and the 'net, right? (No Shroom... you're the only one stupid enough to try and do something constructive at 4am while drunk). Umm... ok, I'm done now. Thank yew and goodnight... Shroom ***I made ya get down on your hands and knees... *** Chris Cornell ------------------------------ From: j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: #somms anythting happening tonight? later, Crocker ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: Re: HI On Thu, 4 Apr 1996, Jerry Chang wrote: > Hi, don't flame me because I'm a new fan of Soundgarden... > Can one of you Soundgarden gurus out there please tell me how they got > the album names Badmotorfinger and Superunknown... and why.. > if there IS a reason at all.... > thank you > Jerry > i figure badmotorfinger is a polite way of saying badmotherfucker. superunknown, well, that answer is so unknown, that it's superunknown... ------------------------------ From: Heather Aston Subject: I made ya get down on your hands and knees Shroom, that "I made ya get down" etc., what song is that from? ------------------------------ From: Peter_Cabral@brown.edu (Peter Cabral) Subject: versatility just a follow-up on the rhythmic creativity thing. there are a slew of sg songs in 4/4. but even those--creative shit, still. take seasons, for instance. the tune is in four. it's easy to hear at the beginning, no? well, cc turns it around and makes the main riff an ultra cool grouping of 4/4. he groups the 16ths as 3-3-3-3-4, to be exact, and 4/4 now has the feel of a triplet 5/4 with an extra beat. and i think the same stuff happens at the end of half (after that avante-garde 11/16 stuff). another point of cc's rhythmic versatility is that pushing forward back, outshined, and birth ritual are all in seven, but are also all completely different feels from eachother. along those lines, my wave and limo wreck are both in five, but you wouldn't know unless yoiu sat there like a geek (i.e. me) and counted. the point is, chris cornell chould get the nobel prize for rhythm. just a side note, in romm a thousand years wide, there's a high squeaky sound that can be heard around 3:00, and it sounds really funky. eddie vedder never wore khakis. petcab ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: versatility PE>just a side note, in romm a thousand years wide, there's a high squeaky PE>sound that can be heard around 3:00, and it sounds really funky. That would be a saxophone. I think it's really cool that Soundgarden incorporates these kind of instruments in their songs. There is also a sax in Drawing Flies. I like how it accents during the verses. Now if they'd just use a trumpet....I could play it! Oh yeah...on the credits in Temple of the Dog, it says that there is a banjo used. Where is it? Nothingman -Share a cigarette with negativity... ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: IRC GK>If you have a lsip connection, acquire some IRC software, and install it, GK>then start your slip connection and start the IRC software and log on to GK>the nearest IRC server. (say, us.undernet.org) Hope this helps. It's GK>actually pretty simple. You mean to start up Netscape? When I start Netscape, I type "/ppp". And when I see what I'm doing, it says, "PPP/SLIP/somethingidontremember" Does this count? I guess it should, since it says slip, but things are stupid that way. Nothingman -Sorry, I took a major dose of stupid pills this morning. ------------------------------ From: Heather Aston Subject: Soundgarden fanzine? I remember Seth had something on his page about a Soundgarden fanzine. I can't seem to find the info though. Does anyone have it? (how much it is, where to send the money) I'm not sure, but there may be more than one. The one I'm talking about had an unpronouncable name that began with and "S". Does *anyone* know what I'm talking about? ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Re: I made ya get down on your hands and knees >Shroom, that "I made ya get down" etc., what song is that from? Check out the song "Missing" from the boot "Stolen Prayers". It's one of the refrains. "I made ya get down, I made ya get down on your hands and knees." When I first heard it, I knew it was gonna be one of my faves. Honestly though... I'm only assuming that Chris penned the lyrics to the song, so I credited him with it. If anyone knows differently... don't tell me, 'kay? Let me live in the dark. Ignorance is bliss, y'know. Unless we're talking about, say CC's home phone number. If someone is dying to enlighten me with that piece of info, I think I could find it in my all-encompassing heart enough to accept it without a peep. Just kidding. Ummm... no, I'm not. Ok... shut up Shroom. Shroom ***I made ya get down on your hands and knees... *** Chris Cornell | |.| |.| |\./| "She drinkin' my JackDaniels |\./| and smokin' all my weed" .\ |\./| /. ~~Andy Wood, MLB \-.\ |\\.//| /.-/ \--./\ |\\.//| /\.--/ \--.| \ |\\.//| / |.--/ \---.|\ |\./| /|.---/ \--.|\ |\./| /|.--/ \ .\ |.| /. / _ -_- \ \\ // / -_- _ - -/_/_/- | | -\_\_\- - /_\ ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 85] ***************************************