From: saperl@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 8 May 1996 Reply-To: saperl@mit.edu Date: Wed, 08 May 1996 01:19:52 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Wednesday, 8 May 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Imusic information! 86 your streamworks software! the video... *sigh* wheel in PN vid... The logo in the eye Re: the new video Re: the new video Pretty Noose vid! PRETTY NOOSE single and questions from Hungary NORML table? Video and stuff HELP HELP HELP UK PN Single Re: Video and stuff Cool thing in the Pretty Noose video a funny little english class anecdote a funny little english class anecdote Pretty Noose vid to look a saint in the eye... fuck..... jet set gardeners/carolyn's good idea... Vinyl Re: jet set gardeners/carolyn's good idea... the synmbols ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: Imusic information! 86 your streamworks software! Hey listers! I just received this from the fine folks at Imusic. All I can say is..it's about time. Real Audio is a much, much better product. >Updated May 6, 1996 > >Hello everybody; > >GOOD NEWS: REAL AUDIO IS HERE! Currently the Smashing Pumpkins concert >will be on Real Audio, Elvis Costello, and the soon to be released Garbage >rebroadast. Soundgarden, Geraldine Fibbers, Sky Cries Mary and Live from >Moe are still on Streamworks and we are currently in the procces of chaning >them over. > >Real Audio also has tech support which we really needed for our newby's out >there. Steve - - swr@acsu.buffalo.edu - - http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~swr - - SG Web Alliance ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: the video... *sigh* *WARNING : GRATUITOUS MENTION OF CC AT THE END* well, i managed to catch the video, surprise, surprise, surprise. i usually miss these things for a few days. it was neat -- not amazing, but certainly a high-quality vid. very cool to play 'hey, i know where THAT is' while watching the video (whaddya want, i've only lived here a year, i still think the space needle is cool too ;-> ) can't tell if kim's a decent pool player or not ;> and that LAST scene on the bed... ohmygoodness. how can a guy look so good just SITTING there? on a lyric-related note, i'm really enjoying the 'kiss the snake goodnight' line. most of the buttrockers will assume (heh heh) that it means one thing, while to the rest of us once again he scores with yet more biblical imagery. can't wait until next week... - --caryn ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: wheel in PN vid... >From: Chris Farley >Subject: BMF Wheel in PN Video > >Did anyone else catch the pupil of the eye at the end of the PN Video = >turning into the BMF Wheel. That made the video for me. I don't think = >there is a real 'story line' to the video, but, just a collage of really = >beatiful and powerful images. >My $.02 yeah,that was a great moment for me, but not as great as when the camera panned over the rumpled bed and the figure sitting at the end and i'm PRAYING 'let it be chris' and it was. ;> beautiful and powerful, yeah, that's it. thanks seth for posting kozik's email address, just sent him a short note to say 'right on'. **SEATTLE GANG**: anyone going to get the album next monday at midnight at tower? wanna meet before? email me privately for details... bonnie, anyone? - --caryn ------------------------------ From: stella rogers Subject: The logo in the eye I just saw the video again for the 3rd time. This time I saw the BMF logo. And right after I did see the Ultramega OK logo too! So whoever posted and said they saw it, you weren't the only one :) BTW, have you ever noticed how on like MTV, they always play SG in the background (ie Outshined, Rusty Cage, Jesus..) but they rarely play SG videos. And when they do you have to be awake like at 2 am to actually catch a glimpse of it. Thats always ticked me off.. anyways. What's the director's email again?? =97=97=97=97 srogers@fix.net http://www.geocities.com/tokyo/3923/ now also at: http://members.tripod.com/~stellar ------------------------------ Subject: Re: the new video From: tonerkin@usa.pipeline.com (Tonerkin) On May 06, 1996 15:22:02, 'jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson)' wrote: >He looks into the camera and your soul and >a women will see the good friend who needs a hug, the lose little boy who >needs a hug, the man of your dreams, who needs your love. I was thinking more along the lines of a homicidal maniac. >how can a guy >look so good just SITTING there? You guys are made out of sterner stuff than I am if you want that scary looking man sitting on your bed!!! If they ever do the Ted Bundy story maybe Chris could be up for the part!!! Toni ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wrecker" <9551219@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Subject: Re: the new video I could quite agree! ------------------------------ From: Kane Subject: Pretty Noose vid! Just saw it on MTV!! That twit Kennedy didn't even MENTION that it would be played, but she made sure to announce that Everclear and some other lame band were coming up... idiot. Anyway, I glanced over at the TV, in the lower left corner no less, and my eyes beheld what they were aching to see : "Soundgarden / Pretty Noose" I immediately went for the volume, but instead (and I just KNOW some of you have done this once in your life :) hit the channel button... and am transporte to something like channel 63... ok, calm down, get back to MTV. OK, there we go... Pretty Noose! This was kind of a double-benefit for me, since I've never heard the song before, so I'll give my first impressions on the song and the vid... As far as the video, you can kinda tell it was edited... it doesn't seem to "flow" correctly... personally I thought "Black Hole Sun" was a better video... not too many shots of the band, except at the beginning and end... the start has all the members at a bar, some shots of each individually... later on there's a scene where the cops throw some guy up against a car (almost positive it's Chris Cornell) later on there's a picture of the band that shows for about 10 seconds, then blurs away... one thing I really liked was at the very end... the last scene is the close up of an eye... right before the video ends, you see a blue Badmotorfinger logo in the eye, then it spins out from the eye... after the BMF wheel fades, you see the SG logo from the UltraMega OK era (ya know, the "S") come out of nowhere and disappear into the eye... I like little touches like that... i was like, "hey cool! the BMF logo!" and, "wow! the UltraMega logo!!!" Unless anyone on this list was also watching the video, I'm probably the only viewer that knew where the "S" logo came from... :) As far as the song... well... I'll need to hear it a few more times. It did not strike me as a good opening track, like "Let Me Drown", "Rusty Cage", etc... good song, but didn't grab me instantly... I got into it more as the song neared the end, after the solo... now I REALLY can't wait to get hold of the album... Kevin ------------------------------ From: Szabolcs 'AnselmoCornellDimebagmajor third' Olah Subject: PRETTY NOOSE single and questions from Hungary Hi everybody||||||||| My name's Szabolcs Olah a big big big big big big big big big big^10^100^ (t here is no 'endless' sign in the keypad) SOUNDGARDEN fan from Hungary (Eastern -Europe). I'm a noo guy here, I've just joined a month ago, but now I felt that I have to grab my electronic pen. I read the last few digest and some asked about the Pretty Noose single, bes ides I've only dreamed about hearing the new song(s) because in Hungary not eve n the Radio stations (though there are bunch of'em) haven't heard about the Pre tty Noose (and the 24th of april AIRPLAY date ) I phoned the hungarian Polygram record label (the A&M distributor in Europe) they could tell me a big nothing, they had thought that they gave new infos to me when they said:"It'll come out in middle may" I laughed myself to the floor||| (and I couldn't even download t ha wav files from the web page coz of it was so so so slow, and after a while t he netscape gone to the Nirvana (not the band haha).) So you can imagine how I was shocked and surprised when I walked in the MCD record store just for looking around (and to know even if the new Pantera is av ailable or not yet) and MY FACE fell off, and my eyes spinned a circle when I s aw at the NEWCOMERS RACK THE PRETTY NOOSE SINGLE (I've read in the last digest that an english gentleman has the limited. for him: HOW?and how does it look li ke ? My Preety Noose single is white w/ red SG sign, and with the band members in bl ack (looks like litografy - Chris Kim Matt and Ben) It has the Applebite an An Unkind and an Interview (8 minutes) on it But WHAT THE MOST SURPRISING was that the guy who sold me in the store said tha t they had it now for one and a half week (SINCE the 28,29 of APRIL) and I don' t know why couldn't the Polygram man tell me the release date of the single. And it's very ironic (don't you think hahahaha) that I still can't here Pretty Noose 'coz I bought it in Budapest where I'm studying at the BKE university, an d I can listen to it only when I'll gome home to Miskolc (where I live) on Thur sday. I'm so down. (and sold out haha) I go to listen to fell on black days (my fav besides JCP, Spoonman, HALF , 4th of July, Rusty Cage Mind Riot, Slaves & Bulldozers (ooh it's so doom|), H ands all over, Somewhere, My Wave,Toy Box, I could write down at least all the titles of the SG songs. So that's the story|(morning glory hahaha) Besides I'm going crazy coz I think I won't see the noo video soon (we have MTV coded- only sound yeah, I will be in front of the Tv all day hearing just the sound and seeing the colored and junky stripes, and lines) I have here only VIVA zwei VIVA, (I'm totally fed up w/ german speech) MCM Euromusique, and the hungarian Tv, that's called MTV too- it's so funny. (Magyar TeleVizio) So please drop me a line where can the mortals see Preety Noose??????? I collect everything (sound materials and tabs, I collect almost all the intern ational US Guitar magz) especially limited everything (CD-s singles, rare singl es, mixes (Spoonm, Rusty and others) vinyls Ep-s Videos, so on ) So if anybody wants to write to me then do it immediately| And I'm a musician too, I have two band, with my 'main' band that I'm a gutarri st/singer in, we play pantera like,and seattle like grooving music with Cornell type (and the guy who sang in the VAI band I don't know his name) type vocals in it, we play live Spoonman with percussionists (I do the cowbell, and the .. I don't know its name in english, sorry), Outshined, Fell On Black Days acousti c (just me) w/ some Tool and Pantera. The band's name bLUNTEd. ( In the other band I'm just a featuring musician, I'm the singer, we play Drea m Theater like progressive music) If anybody interested in our materials (DAT, CD casette either bLUNTEd or after@all (it's the second band)) please contact m e|||||||||1 I hope I didn't bore you|||| (if yea I apologize for it and I won't write to the digest any more) Bye|| Olah 'major third' Szabolcs of bLUNTEd and after@all ------------------------------ From: Heather Aston Subject: NORML table? In the thread about SG and drugs, someone mentioned that they had a NORML table at one of their shows. What is a NORML table? Is this something we all learned about at school, and I was just absent that day? ------------------------------ From: "Kyle Petty, Son of Richard" Subject: Video and stuff Well, about the video, it really amazes me how I've only seen that ONE person has noticed the S logo from Ultramega OK after the Badmotorfinger wheel. How many of y'all said that you had ALL of Soundgarden albums?? Well, apart from that I must say the video doesn't have anything EXTRAordinary but it is way cool and is more pleasant(sp?) to look that other videos going around... Well anyways, somebody asked when does CC makes that Vedder "moking" face. I think it's around the first verse right after a guy is crawling towards the TV(and the old man appears on it). At least I know it's during the verse!! If I can, Like suicide will be on my page today...have a nice day people! PETTY NOOSE RULES!!! ------------------------------ From: "Joseph A. Burnett" Subject: HELP HELP HELP HELP ME!!!!! After I found out the chicago date for lolla, (rockford june 30), i realized i'm going on another exciting vacation to pensacola, florida, leaving JUNE 29TH!!!!!!!I need help, i refuse to miss soundgarden (or rancid), point being, if there is anyone on the list from the STATE OF MISSOURI, PLEASE email me privately, i was hoping i could work something out with tickets (considering i doubt they've gone on sale yet) In the name of somms, please. Help me. Big Joe - --------O But it all makes such Sense to me i need room to breathe I work for the goals that i set Wasted time it weighs on my mind You can bet I can't wait one minute more - -----CIV ------------------------------ From: Grant Asher Subject: UK PN Single I've got both versions of the UK PN single along with the box that came with the version with Applebite etc. The cover of the box has "part 2 of a 2 CD set" written on it. The other single, the one with jerry garcia's finger on it also has part 2 of a 2 cd set written on it (does this make sense?). Were they boxed wrongly? Is there a part one of this set lurking somewhere? BTW, Jerry Garcia's Finger has to be one of the most bizarre tracks I have ever heard!! Grant Asher P.S. Whatever happened to the UK listening party that someone mentioned? ------------------------------ From: stella rogers Subject: Re: Video and stuff At 03:03 PM 5/7/96 -0400, you wrote: > > Well, about the video, it really amazes me how I've only seen that ONE=20 >person has noticed the S logo from Ultramega OK after the Badmotorfinger=20 >wheel. How many of y'all said that you had ALL of Soundgarden albums?? > I saw the S logo. It was pretty cool. I like how the BMF logo came on and then it faded into the S logo. Wonder why they did that..when was the last time they used that logo anyways? =97=97=97=97 srogers@fix.net http://www.geocities.com/tokyo/3923/ now also at: http://members.tripod.com/~stellar ------------------------------ From: jtm8@cornell.edu (J.T. Myers) Subject: Cool thing in the Pretty Noose video Many of you have noted the Badmotorfinger wheel at the end of the Pretty Noose video, but if you look closely as THAT is fading out, you will see that wierd "S-like" logo thing that is on Ultramega OK. Pretty neat. Just thought I'd share. --J.T. ------------------------------ From: never.named@thenexus.com Subject: a funny little english class anecdote did i spell that right? who gives a shit.. anyway, today i decided to wear my "days we tried to live" tour shirt to school.. and well, we had a spelling test in english.. and i was sitting there thinking, wouldnt it be funny if she gave us one of the words thats on my shirt.. but then i thought to myself, be realistic, this is 12th grade regents english, she's gonna give us a word like Vespercyclotrimethylenetrinyl or something.. and what do you know, she says "your next word is tried." i couldn't help but laugh at that as i slid down in my seat. i went "uh-oh" and my english teacher's like "what?" and i said "the word's on my shirt." of course, i didn't HAVE to say anything, but i was going for the comic value of the moment :) this kid ed's like "phat, slide up a little." the entire class was cracking up.. all over a frigging soundgarden shirt :) oh well, dumb story... if you want to get revenge on me for cluttering up your mailboxes with a dumb story, mail me with your own dumb soundgarden story :) - -overfloater. ------------------------------ From: never.named@thenexus.com Subject: a funny little english class anecdote did i spell that right? who gives a shit.. anyway, today i decided to wear my "days we tried to live" tour shirt to school.. and well, we had a spelling test in english.. and i was sitting there thinking, wouldnt it be funny if she gave us one of the words thats on my shirt.. but then i thought to myself, be realistic, this is 12th grade regents english, she's gonna give us a word like Vespercyclotrimethylenetrinyl or something.. and what do you know, she says "your next word is tried." i couldn't help but laugh at that as i slid down in my seat. i went "uh-oh" and my english teacher's like "what?" and i said "the word's on my shirt." of course, i didn't HAVE to say anything, but i was going for the comic value of the moment :) this kid ed's like "phat, slide up a little." the entire class was cracking up.. all over a frigging soundgarden shirt :) oh well, dumb story... if you want to get revenge on me for cluttering up your mailboxes with a dumb story, mail me with your own dumb soundgarden story :) - -overfloater. ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: Pretty Noose vid I just have to say how much mystery lingered in the eyes... all these brilliantly colored eyes... green, red... all so spooky. But the climax of the vid for me is when the Bmf wheel gives way to what symbolizes Soundgarden for me... that Sg-thingie as someone called it. The early band symbol occasionally pops up (have it on my Kickstand tee I got in 94) but it really reminds me of Ultramega OK & how much passion I got from listening to the album in my youth... ok ok... I'm still a kid at 20 but much more way (hehe) back then. It's one of the few symbols I sorta want embrazened on my body... just that tatoos seem as such a permanent thing... I can't even decide where I want my life to go. I guess I'm saying this: I greatly thank the director for including that in the vid... inside of the eye (eyes are my fetish.) Geez... that made as much sense as my essay final in religion. Sorry for the mis-direction. I better go & um.. do something... laundry maybe. Hm... I miss the outside world. I need a vacation. In need of a new name, unknownman By the way... I think I dated the Pretty Noose-dancing-girl a few months back. I can see why Chris took her life... ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: to look a saint in the eye... I bought the latest hot metal magazine this morning, because it has soundgarden on the front cover, and a nice article with them on the inside. most of it is rehashed history-type stuff (sundquist, sst, blah blah blah), but towards the end, kim (who did the interview) says some stuff about dotu. here are some of the more interesting parts: (about metallica and lolla) '...they more or less said that, 'if we are going to do the tour, then soundgarden will be doing it with us.' not so much in that it will be a lollapalooza tour but in that it will be a metallica tour, and we really enjoy touring with them. we had little interest in doing a lolla tour as such, but when it became a metallica tour, then we were much more interested'. 'basically, producers, the role they have with us has primarily been as a recording engineer anyway. they are not going to make very many creative decisions. also, when they do make their suggestions, rather than just spending all that time negating them, we could just go ahead and do what we were going to do anyway. 'I think mostly the idea was to have natural sounding drums and not go in for the overdubs so much, because superunknown, although it is a really good record and we really like it, I think it might have sounded a little bit slick for us.' ...where on superunk's the day I tried to live cornell sang 'I wallowed in the blood and mud', on down on the upside's dusty he tells us 'I think its turning back around/and I think I like it'. does this mean the band have given up their territorial pissings? 'I think there is definitely an anger there,' thayil counters. ' I think lyrically there still might be that anger there, but it might just be less angry in terms of the typical heavy soundgarden songs. we've definitely done less of that'. (more on dotu) 'we anticipate that it will do well, ultimately we'll have to wait and see. I mean they are a different batch of songs and it's hard to second guess what is ever going to happen in the states...we just try to be natural and concentrate on what we like doing. there's no demand that we make another huge record, well I guess the record company probably doesn't feel that way, and they probably want us to make another huge record, but we just want to do what we do - and do it as well as we can'. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Foxymophandlemama <76345.3722@CompuServe.COM> Subject: fuck..... hi darlings, i was singing pn yesterday, and my sister goes, "oh i saw that video twice today!" it took every molecule of self control i possesed not to kill her. grrrr..... anyway, i called every music store in town and no one seems to carry vinyl anymore. so, could some kind soul out there in the garden please send me the number for cd now??? they will have it right? they better....... - -mop ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: jet set gardeners/carolyn's good idea... On Sat, 4 May 1996, Carolyn wrote: > interesting review of the new album. I'm extremely impressed! Both with > Soundgarden (looking forward to receiving that copy, Little Joe) and with > the literary skills of Bling Dog & Little Joe. Seth, how about you assign > them to be roving reporters at every Soundgarden concert so they can write > reviews for your web page? I for one would enjoy reading them......... roving reporters? sounds good to me. but how are we going to finance this? is it going to come out of seth's own administrative pocket (what kind of govt. grant are we on big fella)? I'm sure that with the right perks (ie. backstage passes, interview time and a good deli tray) joe and I could be convinced to skip our exams and tour with soundgarden :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Mayor McCheese Subject: Vinyl Just a tad on the vinyl release: I recently found the flower E.P. on vinyl (it wasn't a reprint, thank god, and you guy's help on that). I didn't open it of course, (I have the CD so why waste it) but I still think of it as my pre-DOTU present to myself. Anyways, I was talking to the guy I get my vinyl shit from and he said that the distrubtor he works through made it sound like the vinyl may be postponed and asked him if he wanted his order to wait for it before he sent it. I hope to hell it isn't postponed. I have 2 copies waiting for me, (1 cause I am impaitient to hear the album, 2 cause I want one to collect and hang on the wall {vinyl makes good decoration}). Well, I hope I don't get my ass flamed off for collecting, cause I really do listen to the music. Anyone else hear of vinyl delays? On a side note, me and a friend have been getting a band together. He produces small time area bands and was helping host a campus area band fest. Of course, knowing the SG freak I am, he let me play SG during the intervals. How precious the faces of the people were when they heard "Half" (my fav). It made me think. A lot of people own SuperUnknown, but how many of those people actually explored the whole album? The world may never know . . . Stayin' Alive, Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX "I'm so bad, I kick my own ass twice a day!" -Creeper from Dolemite **By receiving this letter you can join the OFFICIAL MAYOR McCHEESE SOUNDGARDEN CAMPING EXTRAVAGANZA in Detroit Lakes, Minnesota now by replying to this letter with the subject: CAMPING TRIP! Or type f beyera@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu for info on how you can join!*** ------------------------------ From: Fleur Weinstock Subject: Re: jet set gardeners/carolyn's good idea... On Wed, 8 May 1996, blind dog wrote: > roving reporters? sounds good to me. but how are we going to > (what kind of govt. grant are we on big fella)? I'm sure that with the > right perks (ie. backstage passes, interview time and a good deli tray) > joe and I could be convinced to skip our exams and tour with soundgarden :) - -------------------------i'll join you!!! ---fleur de vie ------------------------------ From: j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: the synmbols the other Soundgarden symbol besides the BMF symbol is from the "ultramega OK" liner notes. It appears next to "nazi driver".. i pretty much think of that song when i see the symbol. jeremy ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 118] ****************************************