From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 7 Jul 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 02:06:24 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Sunday, 7 Jul 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: PN Video/Canada Day Bash Lolla in Middletown Sg bootleg copies speaking of eddie backing Motorvision Re:Motorvision sommshirt Vince Whirlwind explained Watch MTV... Sorry Wrong place!!! A Chris Interview Re: Fresh Tendril new additions Re: Motorvision clear vinyl and other memorabilia... Re: clear vinyl and other memorabilia... SOMMS and other rare stuff ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "stella" Subject: Re: PN Video/Canada Day Bash Hey there was a Lolla Past Present and Future thing on MTV tonight. Anyone see it? It has some interviews with Chris and Kim. But it was mostly about Perry Ferril Anyways, is this what you're talkinga bout? The Lolla special? Or is there another one that's gonna be on? stella > PN was at number 7 this week, if I am not on drugs. And there is a Lolla > special this sunday at high noon central. > Geoff > > Visit the Stupid Poem Library! srogers@fix.net http://www.fix.net/~srogers "Not only is life a bitch, but its always having puppies" ------------------------------ From: LeMoN JeLLo Subject: Lolla in Middletown Justin you wrote about Lollapalooza in Middletown---is that in NY or PA? Did anyone get my message about Burden In My Hand--I haven't gotten an answer and Im still looking for the meaning behind it. Bye Bye, LeMMy ------------------------------ From: HQXH39C@prodigy.com (MR SEAN M MCELENY) Subject: Sg bootleg copies hi, i have a few Soundgarden shows on tape and cd and i know many of you dont have the money or time to go out and search for ones so I am willing to make copies( on tapes of course) for you at no profit for myself. I know that a coupkle years ago when i first got into Sg i would have been estatic if someone would let me listen to all theese cool recordings.ok anyway i have: title place min grade Crown Of Thorns- Europe 92'-100 min - B Black Hole sun- san jose 94'- 60 min- B Stolen Prayers- demos - 74min- A+ unreleased demos Olso, Norway 94'- 90 min- A- my tape is cut off at the end thanks to an uncool trader Somewhere 92' - germany - 60 min - B Reading Fest 95' - england- 90 min - B- Christi and Ty cobb are played ok all you have to do is send me $ 3 and the names of the tape(s) you want me to copy for you. The $3 is for shipping ( priority mail, one fee, $3 semi large package) so if you would like copies of all the bootlegs then send me 6 tapes and 3 dollars ( i hope they all will fit in there though) . i will mail them as soon as i make copies of them but i wont go out my way so it might be a week before i mail it.anyway i hope you all enjoy any tapes i might make for you. i have a bunch of b-sides that i will stick to the end of taes if if theres is any time left. this is open to anyone in the USA. sean McEleny 4922 Oakcrest Dr. Fairfax VA 22030 ------------------------------ From: jammie Subject: speaking of eddie backing hey i was wondering... well you know the song "Four Walled World" on the TOTD album? I've been listening as hard as i can and i still can't hear eddie singing at all on that although hes given credit for bkup vox on it... if anyone can tell me where in hell eddie is in that song it'd be appreciated :) cause i can hear eddie real clear on "Pushin Forward Back" and "Your Savior" but my ears tend to cut out the eddie on "Four Walled World"..hmph, mebbe i'm jes weird :) "One more time around might do it" jammie ;) ------------------------------ From: ADDC Subject: Motorvision In a guitar magazine I ran across an ad for concert videos. They are offering a couple of Soundgarden tapes. The first is called "Soundgarden: Motorvision (Live in 1992) and it is $25. The second is called "Soundgarden: A Night To Rememeber (Live '94) and this is $30. Does anyone on here have either of these concerts? If you do, please give me a extensive detailed report on them. Last time I posted this, I got no response. Someone help me here. Vincent ------------------------------ From: LeMoN JeLLo Subject: Re:Motorvision ADDC: You wrote about Motorvision and wanted to know what was on it I have it and its cheaper at record stores (about $12). Its good----there are some parts with the band talking in a van and its pretty entertaining but the concert part is better. Sub Pop guys Bruce Pavitt and Jonathan Poneman talk about the band and stuff on it. Its well worth it. The songs they play are: Searching With My Good Eye Closed Rusty Cage Outshined Little Joe Mind Riot Room a Thousand Years Wide Jesus Christ Pose Slaves and Bulldozers ------------------------------ From: SOMMS@aol.com Subject: sommshirt hello darlings, ahhh, i've missed this list. between being out of town and getting *really* fucking sick, i haven't been able to keep up with all that's going on. so, if this has been asked before, shoot me: is my tshirt going to reach me in time????!!!! the palooza i'm going to is exactly 2 weeks from tomorrow and i sure as hell better have a somms shirt to wear. has nothingman not gotten his pc problems worked out by now?? this is getting annoying.... oh well, if anyone can give some estimate on when i'll get it, i'll be happy. have a great day everyone!! ~Flutter Girl~ ------------------------------ From: John Bacus Subject: Vince Whirlwind explained The following is a slightly edited review of a SG show from October of 1990. I did periodic reports for a friends 'zine ( i've forgotten the name). If the response is positive I can post some of the other reviews most of which are from 1990. Seattle, WA- i mentioned in my previous show review that a Seattle instituion would be closing (the Central Tavern). The club has hosted all the great hometown bands including Mudhoney, Soundgarden, Green River, and alice in Chains. Last weekend was no different with the club hosting a benefit for local DJ/journalist Jeff Gilbert. Gilbert's house was broken into and his computer was stolen (including the book he was working on). The show featured hardcore bands Unearth, Myramainz, Panic, Bitter End, as well as My Sister's Machine, and special guests Vince Whirlwind and the Nude Dragons... When Vince Whirlwind came onstage the crowd freaked. I guess everyone didn't know that Nude Dragons was an anagram for Soundgarden. The band started out with a cover of "I don't care about You" by Fear, which ran into "Sub Pop Rock City." After SPRC Chris explained the origin of the alias and that Gilbert was Vince Whirlwind. SG was well at ease throughout the show. it was obvious they were just out to have a good time-which probably explained their unusual set list that included a medley of Rush's "Working Man" and Zeppelins Communication Breakdown. After the medley SG played both sides of their new sub Pop single that was a bonus single for the Singles Club. Room 1000 years Wide came across the best of the two. For some reason the band broke into "I don't care about you" again. This time,however, they broke into a what-can-best-be-called "jazzy version" of "Gun". They closed with Incessant mace of Ultramega O.K. SG's relatively new bass player Ben Shepherd seems to have slipped well into his role. Interestingly, SG played with a different drummer (Scott Sundquist). No explanation was given for the absence of Matt Cameron. ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Watch MTV... They're airing a 'History of Lollapalooza' rockumentary. I only caught the tail end of it this (Saturday) morning, but Chris and Kim were interviewed. A rebroadcast (of many, I assume) will be Sunday at 1 pm (check your local listings). ;) -Vikki ------------------------------ From: Justin Wonderlick Subject: Sorry Wrong place!!! Hey sorry about this but I guess they've changed the town. At first I read that it was in Middletown, but now, today I got my tickets and its in NYC!!! Anyway if there is anyone going get a hold of me!!! JUSTIN P.S.- That offer with the band still holds!!! ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: A Chris Interview Much of the interview is filled with unbelievably stupid questions, but there were a few truly insightful moments. Enjoy. -Vikki :) ------------------------------------------------------------ Metal Hammer - July 1996 'Shooting From The Hip! 20 Questions with Chris Cornell' as interrogated by Jerry Ewing MH: What is the proudest achievement of your life so far? CC: Living to be 31 years old! When I was 15 I was pretty convinced that I wouldn't make it. I dunno why, I just thought something big was going to happen to me one way or another -- either I was going to die or my life was going to change dramatically somehow. It just happened to change dramatically. MH: Do you believe in God? CC: No, because the interpretation of what God -- or a god -- is, I wouldn't have. I don't see some white, grey-haired old man sitting on a throne throwing lightning bolts at us when we least expect it. MH: What is the music scene like in Seattle in 1996? CC: It's very non-Seattle. It's very much like the LA scene was eight years ago. A lot of musicians and bands from outside Seattle moved there to 'make it big in the music business'. So now all the demo studios are doing big business and all the rehearsal studios are full and charging lots of money (laughs). It's kind of helped the economy, but not the music scene. MH: What is the most outrageous thing you've ever done while you've been in Soundgarden? CC: Hmmm... Whatever memory I have of it, I might have drank it away between then and now. What could it be? Hmmm... I'll have to stick with my first answer -- that whatever memory I have of it I've drank away. MH: When was the last time you got so drunk you threw up? CC: It's been a while. I'm not a big throw-up guy. I don't like it, so I try to not throw up regardless of how much I drink. I usually pass out and fall over first. But when we were in the studio for 'Superunknown' I was trying to quit smoking a I was chewing tobacco instead. The producer guy brought in this bottle of Scotch, and I hadn't eaten that day and I took a big pull on the Scotch, and I had the tobacco in my mouth. It went down good, so I took another big swig. And then all of a sudden I was rushing to the bathroom and my whole head felt like it was going to explode and I was throwing up pure Scotch and tobacco. It was pretty awful, but me and Scotch are friends again now. MH: Should abortion be legal or illegal? CC: There's different types of abortion and there's different reasons for doing it. But if you look at it this way: in terms of overpopulation, from ghettos to the white under-class, it doesn't make any sense to me to have these militant religious sects try to ban abortion. I think if they really want to protect children and do some good they should look after the living. MH: Have you ever committed a crime, and if so what was it? CC: That's an easy answer: yes. But these are the sort of answers it's probably best not to elaborate on! MH: Why do people think you're a miserable bastard? CC: Probably because I'm not very good at the whole self-promotion angle of rock music. I think kids are brought up to see rock bands as being these devil-may-care crazy people who throw out a lot of one-liners and live life on the edge; creating personalities like Alice Cooper and Ozzy Osbourne created. We've always been interested in making music, so the whole angle of presenting ourselves is foreign to us. Being uncomfortable makes us seem quiet and depressed and perhaps a bit miserable. MH: What is your favorite breed of dog? CC: Dogs are kind of like people; breeds have a certain significance. But the dog I had with the most personality was a mixed-breed. It always seems to be the mixed-breed dogs that do the craziest, most eccentric things. MH: What music do you like to have sex to? CC: Real moody stuff. MH: What do you think of British rock music that's around today? CC: Well, being from the U.S., the only British rock music you ever hear about is the pop that gets video and airplay. I sure like it more than the British new wave that got played the hell out of in the '80s -- the Human League, Thompson Twins. There's a lot of British pop I feel I can get off on today, but it still sounds like British pop to me. The point is, it doesn't sound like anything new. But I'm also convinced there's a lot of British rock music that's good that we don't get to hear. MH: Have you ever been for an Aids test? CC: Once, yeah. There's quite a few rock musicians who have quite a promiscuous lifestyle, but I'm not going in after every tour for a new Aids test -- 'Well, have I got it this time?' (laughs). MH: Have you ever been threatened with a gun or at knife-point? CC: No, not really. I've been near people who have pulled guns. Not to threaten me, but to show me they had a gun. Like, 'Leave me alone, I have a gun!' But I was a lot younger then. I saw someone get shot once, in the Bay Area, though. MH: Do you have any strange hobbies? CC: Hmmm... I collect wax! No, I don't, really. Ha ha, beautiful gloves of different colored wax! No, not really. I talk to myself, but I guess most people do. And I'm sure whatever I'm saying to myself is quite interesting. MH: What do you think of the Kiss re-formation? CC: I predicted that when they did their self-promoted tribute to themselves record ('Kiss My Ass'). I thought they were really into keeping the name alive so they'd eventually do the original line-up thing. And now a few years later it's here. I think it'll be great for old Kiss fans. MH: What was your first job when you left school? CC: I left school pretty early, but I always worked in restaurants, bussing tables. MH: What's the worst thing about being in Soundgarden? CC: The best thing about being a successful musician is that you're your own boss. But the worst thing is aspects of not being able to just do anything you want to do. You have this sense of freedom, and it kind of gets shattered. As soon as you've finished an album you have to agree on packaging and photographers and stuff that doesn't come naturally to us. Ultimately, though, you think it's just great being a musician and being able to make music. MH: When was the last time you saw Eddie Vedder? CC: I think I saw him in a magazine shop at the airport. He was on the cover of a European magazine. He looked like he was in pretty good spirits, though. But I can't remember the name of the magazine. MH: What would you do if Pamela Anderson came backstage at one of your shows and propositioned you? CC: I'd have her arrested, and I'd have my lawyer contact her lawyers, and I'd sue her for sexual harassment and I'd win. And it would be like a very big legal case. You always hear about sexism in rock, but I've never gone off and touched a woman when she didn't want me to. But many times on stage and off I've had girls come up and grab my crotch, and that's sexual harassment. So I'd take her to court and I'd sue her husband and Baywatch and everybody, because I'm American and that's what Americans do. MH: How would you feel if one of your band attempted to commit suicide? CC: Well obviously I wouldn't feel to good about it. But I don't imagine that would ever happen. As a band we're all too stable. ------------------------------ From: marcm Subject: Re: Fresh Tendril > Whats up. Anyone notice that the following are common references in > SG songs? > Snakes > Wrecks > Rides > Drowning > Dogs > Apparently, you've forgotten the best common SG subject," mother"! They seem to be in love with that word. Marc ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: new additions Hey list! After suffering minor sun stroke today.... I finally marked up my boot list and uploaded the document to my web page. http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~swr/boot.html The format is still under construction...but you'll get a general idea. I only have 7 weeks left till school starts up! So, send me your list! Due to time restrictions...NO 2 for 1 offers. Sorry. Anyway...Sean M. is providing that service. :-) Remember, please send me info on the latest SG releases for the discog..especially information on this 'box set' that's being released. One more thing...there are now only 9999 copies of DoTU on black vinyl. Saving Time: Caryn: got the package today. thanks. Yours will be out this week sometime. Dena: got your package today also! thanks! It looks cool! Steve - - srussell@epix.net - - http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~swr - - SG Web Alliance - - For a limited time in Canada, with the purchase of your McDonald's "Happy Meal"...receive a limited edition Soundgarden Cup for only 39 cents! Each cup features the members of Soundgarden in various Rock Star poses. Collect all four! ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Motorvision At 01:53 PM 7/6/96 -0500, ADDC wrote: > > >In a guitar magazine I ran across an ad for concert videos. They are offering >a couple of Soundgarden tapes. The first is called "Soundgarden: Motorvision >(Live in 1992) and it is $25. The second is called "Soundgarden: A Night To >Rememeber (Live '94) and this is $30. Does anyone on here have either of >these concerts? If you do, please give me a extensive detailed report on >them. Last time I posted this, I got no response. Someone help me here. with all due respect, we on this list do not live and die to provide you (or anyone else) with soundgarden information at the exact moment you demand it. first of all, i would call your attention to the Unofficial Soundgarden Home Page, at http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden. this resource should answer any of your questions, and is available to someone who is still using Lynx, so get off your butt and use your brain and try to find some of the answers to your questions yourself. (gee, what a concept) imo, $25 sounds a little pricey for motorvision. you can find a zillion used copies around here for about $10 on the average. i don't know what it goes for new. my $.02 for today, - --caryn ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: clear vinyl and other memorabilia... hey all, today i finally dragged those 5 boxes of cd's and vinyl that have been sitting in the corner of my living room over to this really cool store on the east side, in order to sell them. they have TONS of seattle scene memorabilia on their walls, including just about every possible sg collectible imaginable (not for sale, of course). but they've always been nice guys so i thought i'd give them my used stuff... sold about $300 worth, and what sucked the most was that finally, i could buy just about anything in the store i wanted... and there was NOTHING i wanted! gak!!! i was chatting with the owners as they went through my collection (took them about 1 1/2 hrs) and they are HUGE sg fans as it turns out. i asked them if i could come back and photograph some of their stuff for the page and they said "sure"! they aren't on the net yet, but will be shortly (just bought a computer) -- i told them to check out the page, and suggested maybe they'd like to help with a collectibles guide? wouldn't it be a great thing to have one place on the page you could check to see what the 'going rate' was for a single or other rarity, to know whether you'd found a great bargain or were being ripped off? i mean, it's up to seth of course, but i thought it might be a good idea... also, they have about 5 of the clear vinyls left, if anyone out there wants one and didn't get one, it would cost you $25 including postage (it's about $22.50)... write and let me know... - --caryn ------------------------------ Subject: Re: clear vinyl and other memorabilia... From: seth > wouldn't it be a great thing to > have one place on the page you could check to see what the 'going rate' was > for a single or other rarity, to know whether you'd found a great bargain or > were being ripped off? i mean, it's up to seth of course, but i thought it > might be a good idea... so if we had a list of everything imaginable, and next to each item a reported low price, reported high price, and the average price, that would be cool for everyone? and if it looked something like http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/guide/ that would be good for everyone, too? and if i decided not to see this through to completion tonight, given that it's saturday night, people could live with that as well? :) this is the type of stuff i really enjoy, where everyone contributes in order to accomplish stuff that's beneficial to all. give me a few days and i'll try to have a list made and i'll try to write some scripts to automate adding new prices and computing averages, etc. i can't promise you anything, though. seth ------------------------------ From: Chris Mansfield Subject: SOMMS and other rare stuff add me to the list of SOMMS owners. :) (thanks dena!) i knew if i held out long enough i wouldn't have to resort to paying through the nose for a copy. saw another two copies of SOMMS in yet another seattle record store today. $50 each. same store is owned and run by 2 huge SG fans and they have tons o' cool stuff on the walls, all not for sale. :( gold vinyl BMF, JCP 7" pic disc, loud love vinyl, colored vinyl of flower, and a few others i can't remember right now. this is the same store that has the JCP candle (also not for sale). will get a photo of it eventually. almost picked up alive in the superunknown cd-rom for $20 but decided to hold out for a better price... to the guy who asked if his black vinyl Room/H.I.V. Baby single was a good buy at $12, i'd say so. saw one today for $50. saw a grape one in another store "on sale" for $90 (regular asking price $100). picked up the pretty noose UK 7" red vinyl today also. b-side is jerry garcia's finger. it's pretty neat looking IMO. the cover is just like the CD single but it looks better as a 7" cover. limited edition 5000 copies and mine is #915. seth, let me know if you need a scan of this. (i'm too lazy to go look at the page right now. :) ) also seth, suggestion for the page if you don't have it on there already: a "wish list" of stuff you want for the page, more specifically scans of official releases so we know what to look for. oh yeah, also got the '94 rolling stone issue with SG on the cover. can scan that too if needed. :) also picked up motorvision for $8 and louder than live video for $10. :) and a BMF sticker that will eventually make its way onto my car somewhere. :) was a good day. :) :) Chris ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 176] ****************************************