From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 15 Jul 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 02:34:23 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Monday, 15 Jul 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: *Chris' Birthday Card Idea* Re: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 14 Jul 1996 Re:You know you're obsessed... soundgarden dream the island 7/10/96 tshirts inspiration burden video...its awesome Worldwide SG RE: Diversity Inflatable Soule Ben and Obsessions Burden in my Hand Matt's Drums Re: Matt's Drums Re: inspiration Re: You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when..... Re: You Know You're Obsessed with Soundgarden When... Re: You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when..... Re: Nothingman says... obsession...from sg ;-) BiMH (the video) Re: You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when..... Re: BiMH (the video) Re: obsession...from sg ;-) Re: Ben and Obsessions - Public Apology ------------------------------------------------------------ From: David_H._Steinhage@nrunner.mil.wi.us Subject: *Chris' Birthday Card Idea* Right now I am envisioning Chris' card with a slice of birthday cake on the cover, and down below written: "Take, if you want a slice If you want a piece If if feels alright" I hope no one had thought of this before me, cuase Ill look pretty stupid.... ;) Dave ------------------------------ From: Jai sukhatme Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 14 Jul 1996 > Subject: Obsessed by all this obsession! > From: tonerkin@usa.pipeline.com (Tonerkin) > long ones) Can we see the name Soundgarden in some different languages??? > Just think how *impressed* people will be it we can say Soundgarden 20 > different ways! You first, Jai !!!!!!! Toni ok , well in Hindi Soundgarden would be ... well we'll first have to see about sound which would be "aawaaz"... and then garden would be "bageecha" or "upwan" or "watika"... as i'm from bombay this would be very crude Hindi but nevertheless we have : "aawaazbageecha", "aawaazupwan" or "aawaazwatika" . Weird eh!! Well Kim himself should be able to help out on this one!!!!! jai - ----------------------------- ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Re:You know you're obsessed... > > > ...The only baby boy names you find acceptable are Christopher, > > Benjamin, and Matthew. (We chose Christopher, so I guess this could > > cross over into the obsessed with Chris category too!) > > But there's no Benjamin in Soundgarden... > > There is, however, a Hunter Benedict Shepherd. > > seth > I knew someone would point this out. Of course I know that...but Ben can be short for Benjamin, even if in this case its not. OK, so it doesn't make sense, but neither does the whole obsession. How about this: You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when... ...you can make a connection with Soundgarden even if one doesn't exist. Kathie ------------------------------ From: j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: soundgarden dream Last night before i went to bed, i put in "Down on the Upside". I programmed all the slow songs into memory. Soon after, i dozed off. But Soundgarden appeared eventually. It looked like it was at some benefit type concert. There were a lot of bands on the bill (i remember the chilli peppers) and everyone was having a good time. But it starts getting weird at the end. Whatever group i was with got to go backstage. The Peppers were the last group to play and during their last song all the bands went on stage to do the last song sing-a-long. Well, I saw Soundgarden go on stage, so i followed. No one stopped me either. weird.... So i walk all the way to the left side of the stage where Chris is. Everyone grabs hands like its a freakin camp fire or something. I said, "hey chris." I wasn't really excited either. Just calm. During the singing, while i'm holding Chris's hand, i said, "man.. i bet SHROOM wishes she was me right now!" Chris paused for a sec, and laughed... hard! Then he said, "you're probably right." So the singing ends and chris and the guys sit down in chairs behind them. I say something to Chris and am about to leave, when i say, "oh yeah, while i've got you hear. This band Soundgarden is playing hear next week. Have you heard of 'em? (i'm being sarcastic) Well anyway, Chris.. next Saturday is your birthday. And i'm on the mailing list and have volunteered to bring you birthday cards. So you'll be getting some birthday stuff." He kind of rolled his eyes in embarrasment and the rest of the guys laughed. I continued "well, i've gotta go... so, have a good time in Rockingham next week." and i went off to join my group. you know you are obbsessed with Soundgarden when you dream about them :) jeremy ------------------------------ From: jammie Subject: the island 7/10/96 Sorrry I'm giving in my review of Wednesday's New York lolla so late, but i think i just finished recovering from it :) Well I got there a little late, just when screaming trees began. I lost everyone i had come with within the first 10 minutes of the show but at least i managed to get in with a camera and an extra roll of film. Screaming trees rawked, but some dork decided to land on my left hand cause me to badly sprain my thumb...and trust me it's no fun being in a pit without a hand :/ So after the trees i went backstage a sec to get some ice but didn't see anyone remotely cool :/ rancid and the ramones were good, wutang was ok cause the pit wasnt too rough so you could maintain a space for SG :) i have no idea what the monks were about, but it looked fun whatever they were doing :) Now SG...it was the setlist from GOD.. I wrote it down immediately after it was over...so here is the complete setlist in order...: 1.Spoonman 2.Searching with my Good eye closed 3.Let Me Drown 4.Pretty Noose 5.Burden in My Hand 6.My Wave 7.Ty Cobb (Chris took off that unbuttoned shirt at this point heheheh) 8.Fell on Black Days 9.Rusty Cage 10.Solo Black Hole Sun 11.Outshined 12.Mailman 13.Drawing Flies It was amazing, the entire set. I was happy that Chris appreciated that i survived that armory show in NYC. Chris also made the comment about "come up here and I'll ram it down your fucking throat" which i enjoyed very much. He also said that they were going to watch the Ramones play every night cause they're a great band. I was just mesmerized the entire time. My friend Brian also said that Chris high fived him sometime during the set but i don't remember chris leaving the stage..but oh well :) So if any of those pictures of SG come out any good at all I'll get them scanned and send them to Seth...l8trs all! jammie ;) "What? You don't like that song?!?!?!" --Chris ------------------------------ From: Neuromute@aol.com Subject: tshirts Is there a back up plan for SOMMS tshirts if Nothingman cannot be located or extradited back to this country? It's a cool idea, and I'd like one, but I guess things are at the proverbial croosroads at this point... Speaking of Nothingman, I really miss his random and daily varying signature quotes. I will try to revive this lost art in his absence, but of course I make no warranties as to being either funny or reliable...Thrilling you say! - -- My adopted quote if I were a chick .... Dressing like a hootchie gets you things -- Shroom ------------------------------ From: jammie Subject: inspiration i dont know if this was brought up before..but does anyone know why greg gilmore, the former drummer for 10 minute warning and MLB is credited for inspiring "Never the Machine Forever"? Just a little curious... jammie ;) "Kill your health and kill yourself and kill everything you love"--Chris ------------------------------ From: "stella" Subject: burden video...its awesome just saw the burden video. It was awesome. It started out with chris walking in the desert and he climbed on top of this jungle-gym kinda thing. And he was at the top with his guitar singing. And then you see Kim walking out in the desert. The whole video they are in the desert. The use of light was cool. Sometimes everything was green and then blue, and then normal. A lot of bugs, mostly ants, in this video. For some reason on certain parts of the video, when they showed the band walking in the desert, it looked like they were the ants. Maybe that was the point, i dunno. You'd have to see the video to understand. I'm probably just babbling right now. This video was really cool, one of thier bests imo. Lots of cool imagery. Through out the video they showed this hand that was like half burried in the sand. Just the fingers were poking out. They showed a lot of stuff that I was suprised MTV let them show. Oh well, this probably isn't a very good description for you. But you'll see it for yourself soon I guess. Laters... stella srogers@fix.net http://www.fix.net/~srogers "Not only is life a bitch, but its always having puppies" ------------------------------ From: mmholliday@attmail.com (Michael M Holliday) Subject: Worldwide SG Soundgarden in German: Tongarten The 'Ton' is pronounced like tone. I always thought their name had a German feel to it anyway. Javdoctor ------------------------------ From: Chris Farley Subject: RE: Diversity Would some of the members from Ireland and South Africa e-mail me = personally. I am very interested in things going on in your countries = and would like to discuss them with you. Thanks Chris - ---------- From: seth[SMTP:saperl@MIT.EDU] Sent: Saturday, July 13, 1996 7:17 PM To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Diversity I finally got around to going through all of the addresses on the list (currently 547) and doing a domain name analysis, as Caryn had suggested a while ago. So for those of you interested in where your messages go when you send them to somms@mit.edu, here's the list: Argentina Australia Bulgaria Canada Croatia Czech Republic Denmark Finland Germany Hungary India Ireland Israel Italy Japan Latvia Malaysia Mexico Netherlands New Zealand Norway Peru Philippines Portugal Slovenia South Africa South Korea Spain Sweden Switzerland Thailand United Kingdom United States So Soundgarden fans are a pretty diverse bunch of people. Cool. seth ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Inflatable Soule ...the band with Chris's brother and two Cornell sisters. They're WORKING on an Official Web Page. It is VERY MUCH under construction and the photo is old. Peter (35 yrs old, FYI) now has a goatee and the bass player has since changed. http://www.aa.net/~mcmahon/ -Vikki :) ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Ben and Obsessions I know I already responded to this once, but its been bugging me all day and I felt I needed to tell the whole story because I think Seth's post made me look pretty stupid. > > ...The only baby boy names you find acceptable are Christopher, > > Benjamin, and Matthew. (We chose Christopher, so I guess this could > > cross over into the obsessed with Chris category too!) > > But there's no Benjamin in Soundgarden... > > There is, however, a Hunter Benedict Shepherd. > > seth When my husband and I were trying to pick out baby names we were having a hard time picking a boy's name. I liked Christopher, but he immediately said "you just like Christopher because of Chris Cornell" I denied this and really didn't believe it because I did like the name. Then he asked me what other names I liked and I told him Benjamin and Matthew. When he heard that he made the connection with the other band members, saying "Benjamin: Ben Shepherd; Matthew: Matt Cameron, come on, who are you trying to fool". And it was at that point that I realized how much a part of my psyche Soundgarden had become. Not even intending to do it I had chosen names very similar to the band members (in fact I even defended myself by saying the Ben's name was really Hunter, but my husband didn't buy it). So, even though the name Benjamin isn't the exact name, it is similar enough for my husband to have made the connection, so I thought it was pretty cool evidence of obsession since it wasn't even conscious on my part. I probably should have explained this in the original post, but since it was a light-hearted reply to a light-hearted thread I really didn't think it was necessary. I'll certainly be more careful next time. Kathie ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Burden in my Hand First video on 120 Minutes was Burden in my Hand! It was nice not to have to wait through an hour of other crap to see what I wanted to see. Not much to the video: alot of shots of the band walking through the desert (they do look great though). It's kind of eerie and there is a connection to a dead (I assume) body in the sand. I like it, but then I like just about everything they do, so I'm not the best critic. I'm sure other people will have more thorough reviews. I'm curious to hear what everybody thinks. Kathie ------------------------------ From: FrkShow911@aol.com Subject: Matt's Drums Does anyone out there know how Matt's live setup goes as far as drum sizes? I know he plays an Ayotte Custom w/ Zildjian cymbals, DW pedals and hardware, Vic Firth sticks, and Remo heads but that's about it. It'd be cool if someone could put a little knowledge out on the table about the topic above. And by the way, are there any other drummers on this list besides myself or bassists near Atlanta? My band needs a bassist pretty fuckin bad. --------Al ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Matt's Drums From: seth > Does anyone out there know how Matt's live setup goes as far as drum sizes? I > know he plays an Ayotte Custom w/ Zildjian cymbals, DW pedals and hardware, > Vic Firth sticks, and Remo heads but that's about it. This info may be a bit outdated, so if anyone's heard anything different in the last 2 years, let us know: DRUMS (Drum Workshop): 5x14 Keplinger snare 8x12 tom 9x13 tom 12x14 tom 14x16 tom 16x24 bass drum CYMBALS (Zildjian): 15" New Beat hi-hat 18" K crash/ride 21" A medium ride 17" A Rock crash 20" A medium ride HEADS: Remo coated Emperor on snare Clear Emperors on tops of toms, clear Diplomats on bottoms Clear Ambassador on bass drum Hope this helps. seth ------------------------------ From: Mayor McCheese Subject: Re: inspiration On Sun, 14 Jul 1996, jammie wrote: > i dont know if this was brought up before..but does anyone know > why greg gilmore, the former drummer for 10 minute warning and MLB is > credited for inspiring "Never the Machine Forever"? Just a little curious... > > jammie ;) I read in an interview that Greg and Kim and I think Ben were jamming one day. Greg started playing some wierd time sig and Kim wrote the song. I can't remember where I read this (I think Guitar World) otherwise I would tell you so you could read it all. Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX *** Time to Play the McCheese "Name the Fav" Game *** Just Reply to me with the Song Title and Artist And I'll tell you your cool or something "Panic, all hell breaks loose A battered body screams abuse A plastic bullet ends his youth A motherless son turns and pukes" ------------------------------ From: The Guitarist-2001 Subject: Re: You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when..... I s'pose I had to do this: - - You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden if you completely despise every single band at Lollapalooza except them (I s'pose Metallica's okay...) and you're STILL planning on going . . . - - . . . You actually take the time every day to read every single word of every single E-mail on this mailing list - - . . . You've just read 30 posts of "You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when......." and found that they ALL apply to you. The Guitarist-2001 ------------------------------ From: The Guitarist-2001 Subject: Re: You Know You're Obsessed with Soundgarden When... At 03:36 AM 7/14/96 +0000, Seth wrote: > >> ...The only baby boy names you find acceptable are Christopher, >> Benjamin, and Matthew. (We chose Christopher, so I guess this could >> cross over into the obsessed with Chris category too!) > >But there's no Benjamin in Soundgarden... > >There is, however, a Hunter Benedict Shepherd. > >seth > Is there an extended form of Kim? Or is that just it? The Guitarist-2001 ------------------------------ From: The Guitarist-2001 Subject: Re: You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when..... At 01:50 AM 7/13/96 +0000, GeekGirl wrote: >Damn but this isnt the best thread so far IMHO...... I can't take it anymore! What the heck does "IMHO" mean?!?! The Guitarist-2001 ------------------------------ From: The Guitarist-2001 Subject: Re: Nothingman says... At 12:49 AM 7/13/96 +0000,Eric Gardner wrote: >that the shirts are in his possession and he will begin posting >them soon. Maybe sooner now that he got a phone call straight >from left field.:) >He said that after the artwork problem (that Seth fixed) the shirt >guy got backed up. >He did sound somewhat apologetic, and I believe he was sincere. >He said he was not trying to rip anybody off and I tried to tactfully >explain that people are concerned, but nobody is branding him a thief. >I also asked about his net access and mentioned that some people on the >list were concerned for him, and hoped he would return. He said >he was hopeful he would return soon. > > >"Let's all hope for the best" - McCheese > > >Eric > > Counting on this all working out, yadda-yadda, is it too late to get a shirt? Was this a one-time deal? Have I missed my chance? The Guitarist-2001 ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: obsession...from sg ;-) - --you know you're obsessed when people make snide jokes about you and cc on another, non-sg-related mailing list... - --you know you're obsessed when you go into a record store and the 's' section is the first or second section you hit... - --you know you're obsessed when you get email that tickets are going on sale in two hours and you walk into your bosses' office and tell a room full of people that you're not going to make this meeting, soundgarden tickets are going on sale - --you know you're obsessed when you use the color printer to print out a copy of the cc and edved kissing pic and hang it on the bulletin board behind your desk - --you know you're obsessed when you refer to the band members by first name only - --you know you're obsessed when you take pictures of kim in a guitar magazine, taken at the band's rehersal studio, and using the buildings that appear in the window behind him, figure out what neighborhood the building is at and walk around until you find one with the same kind of windows that would have the same view in the window... - --when you go to the sound garden sculpture whenever you're depressed and pick up white quartz rocks around the sculpture and send them to friends and get insulted if they don't find the gesture as meaningful as you do - --when you seriously consider buying a *third* pair of doc martens so you can have the same color that chris has in the motorvision vid ...and i said i wasn't going to participate in this thread. ;-) - --caryn ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: BiMH (the video) Questions answered after viewing BiMH, the video... we found out what lies beyond the Blackhole Sun Mountains.... we know now what happened to the fish in FNM's "Epic" video... cool ending...but, come on... did you really think CC would stay outside the bomb shelter while the atomic weapons exploded around him? Steve ------------------------------ From: Lightning Boy Subject: Re: You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when..... >Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:15:16 >To: The Guitarist-2001 >From: Lightning Boy >Subject: Re: You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when..... > >At 02:50 AM 7/15/96 GMT, you wrote: >>I s'pose I had to do this: >> >>- You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden if you completely despise every >>single band at Lollapalooza except them (I s'pose Metallica's okay...) and >>you're STILL planning on going . . . >What about Screaming Trees??????? They rule!!1 >> >>- . . . You actually take the time every day to read every single word of >>every single E-mail on this mailing list >You do too?? I thought I was the only one! :) >> >>- . . . You've just read 30 posts of "You know you're obsessed with >>Soundgarden when......." and found that they ALL apply to you. > >So true.. I have to add one of my own: > >You know you're obsessed w/ Soundgarden when you check your mail at 12:30AM just to see if anyone wrote about the new video... (it's AWESOME!! They really use the desert lyrics literally!!) > >> >>The Guitarist-2001 >> >> >> > .__ .__ .__ __ .__ __________ | | |__| ____ | |___/ |_ ____ |__| ____ ____ \______ \ ____ ___.__. | | | |/ ___\| | \ __\/ \| |/ \ / ___\ | | _// _ < | | | |_| / /_/ > | \ | | | \ | | \/ /_/ > | | ( <_> )___ | |____/__\___ /|___| /__| |___| /__|___| /\___ / |______ /\____// ____| /_____/ \/ \/ \//_____/ \/ \/ aka Eric Bonus lightning@ag.net Keeper of the "New Complete AIC Lyrics Songbook" (Now in version 3.0! (HTML!!)) http://www.ag.net/~lightning/aic/lyrics/ ------------------------------ From: Lightning Boy Subject: Re: BiMH (the video) At 12:12 AM 7/15/96 -0400, you wrote: >Questions answered after viewing BiMH, the video... > > >we found out what lies beyond the Blackhole Sun Mountains.... > >we know now what happened to the fish in FNM's "Epic" video... > >cool ending...but, come on... did you really think CC would stay outside the >bomb shelter while the atomic weapons exploded around him? > > >Steve I thought he was gonna do something with the chick (no Shroomy, not do IT!!) but the video was kinda cool!! > > > .__ .__ .__ __ .__ __________ | | |__| ____ | |___/ |_ ____ |__| ____ ____ \______ \ ____ ___.__. | | | |/ ___\| | \ __\/ \| |/ \ / ___\ | | _// _ < | | | |_| / /_/ > | \ | | | \ | | \/ /_/ > | | ( <_> )___ | |____/__\___ /|___| /__| |___| /__|___| /\___ / |______ /\____// ____| /_____/ \/ \/ \//_____/ \/ \/ aka Eric Bonus lightning@ag.net Keeper of the "New Complete AIC Lyrics Songbook" (Now in version 3.0! (HTML!!)) http://www.ag.net/~lightning/aic/lyrics/ ------------------------------ From: Lightning Boy Subject: Re: obsession...from sg ;-) >Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:22:16 >To: caryn rose >From: Lightning Boy >Subject: Re: obsession...from sg ;-) > >At 09:07 PM 7/14/96 -0700, you wrote: >>--you know you're obsessed when you go into a record store and the 's' >>section is the first or second section you hit... >>--caryn > >Absolutely!! They are always second, behind A, for Alice In Chains... >(and that's not just it's first in the Alphabet!!!) > .__ .__ .__ __ .__ __________ | | |__| ____ | |___/ |_ ____ |__| ____ ____ \______ \ ____ ___.__. | | | |/ ___\| | \ __\/ \| |/ \ / ___\ | | _// _ < | | | |_| / /_/ > | \ | | | \ | | \/ /_/ > | | ( <_> )___ | |____/__\___ /|___| /__| |___| /__|___| /\___ / |______ /\____// ____| /_____/ \/ \/ \//_____/ \/ \/ aka Eric Bonus lightning@ag.net Keeper of the "New Complete AIC Lyrics Songbook" (Now in version 3.0! (HTML!!)) http://www.ag.net/~lightning/aic/lyrics/ ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Ben and Obsessions - Public Apology From: seth > I know I already responded to this once, but its been bugging me all > day and I felt I needed to tell the whole story because I think Seth's > post made me look pretty stupid. > > > > ...The only baby boy names you find acceptable are Christopher, > > > Benjamin, and Matthew. (We chose Christopher, so I guess this could > > > cross over into the obsessed with Chris category too!) > > > > But there's no Benjamin in Soundgarden... > > > > There is, however, a Hunter Benedict Shepherd. > > > > seth Kathie, I sincerely apologize. I had absolutely no intention of making you look stupid. I saw your message, said to myself "Wait a sec, Ben's real name is Hunter," and posted. That's all. Ben's real name is trivia, so I didn't look at your post and think "Wow, I can't believe she didn't know *that*." Again, I am sorry I have offended you. seth ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 184] ****************************************