From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 17 Aug 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 01:40:34 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Saturday, 17 Aug 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: Lawyers and PN undernet application? Re: sg and a phat j Re: I know you're sick and alone... words not said and Schtuff list members page RE: words not said and Schtuff Re: words not said and Schtuff Re: more SG wish covers Re: words not said and Schtuff Re: words not said and Schtuff question? Re[2]: words not said and Schtuff RE: and I saw it on the set... haiku generator (fwd) Re: undernet application? Re: sg on vacation SHIRT ORDERS! (fwd) Re: SHIRT ORDERS! (fwd) Re: undernet application? Re: SHIRT ORDERS! (fwd) Re: undernet application? One of the banned i dunno if im crazy or what No log here boycott #somms Re: words not said and Schtuff RE: and I saw it on the set... RE: ben's mailing list etiquette/internet access RE: Enough...... IRC RE: One of the banned Re: No log here undernet. RE: One of the banned Re: SHIRT ORDERS! (fwd) Re: SHIRT ORDERS! (fwd) Re: SHIRT ORDERS! (fwd) Re: words not said and Schtuff undernet application #Somms #somms RE: #Somms undernet BULLSHIT Come on get happy! Re: Come on get happy! RAGE, Aust members Only!! small sg content Re: SG shirt Soundgarden ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Badmotorfinger@nrunner.mil.wi.us Subject: Re: Lawyers and PN My contribution... Beyond the Wheel - Mechanic Head Injury - Neurologist Gun - Hitman My Wave - Lifeguard Black Hole Sun - Astrologist Switch Opens - Electrician Blow up the Outside World - Unabomber BMF ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: undernet application? can whoever is sponsoring this please tell me where i can go to see our application? thanks! - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Aleko Subject: Re: sg and a phat j I said that a song grew on me after i was high and there is a reason. I find that when i am stoned i can hear all the instruments and sounds in a song clearly and distinctly. This makes a good and complex song even better. It doesn't work with all music but i feel being high increases your listening pleasure. This is especially so live where while stoned and listening to a great song time seems to be standing still. Seriously time goes by very slowly, great if you are enjoying yourself. The same does't occur when drunk, for me anyhow. If i get really drunk i sometimes forget about three hours. Imagine if you saw Soundgarden and couldn't remember it. Having said this people are affected differrentlywhen high so others may enjoy music less while high, i hope not. PS Good music to listen to while stoned: Soundgarden (of course), Led Zepellin, Pink Floyd (i don't listen to them normally), and Type O Negative. "Rock n' roll doesn't have a soul, just a dick and a wallet" --- Kim Thayil ------------------------------ From: Aleko Subject: Re: I know you're sick and alone... On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, blind dog wrote: > > > > karaoke is hard to define. I don't know if I like it or not. it > wasn't very cool the first time around. the beginning (crashing cymbals > and chaotic guitars) was kind of interesting, but the main riff was a > little...obvious, at least to me. Yes it is obvious and a bit dissapointing but when you are hoping for another Cold Bitch you will be dissapointed. littlejoe (who has lost his voice) > likens it to a kiss song. but after a couple of listenings, karaoke > becomes a bit of a grower. The second time was defintely better so who knows it's early days yet. Chris said the song is about how bands are copying eachother and the state of music at the moment. Maybe it's obvious on purpose, now that would be something. > > bleed together, on the other hand, is cool. despite it not having > much of a real "soundgarden vibe", the whole band is spot on musically. > it's is just a really cool rock song. matt plays brilliantly, and the > guitars are solid. chris' voice, like in karaoke, is filtered, but still > sounds good. what kim does with his two-bar lead is excellent, and the > chorus is awfully catchy. This song reminded me of Drawing Flies and sounds very rock in a generic sense almost but is an excellent tune. overall, it sounds a little along the lines of > never named or an unkind; not sludgey/hypnotic like limo wreck or room, > but more uptempo (but missing the wackiness of face pollution of she's a > politician). maybe a poor man's drawing flies? > > so while it is cool to have new music from the band, and even > though they are obviously enjoying themselves, neither are soundgarden > classics. I know that sounds dumb, as they *are* bsides, but there have > been much better bsides than these. neither is as good as cold bitch, kyle > petty or birth ritual. Agreed, infact the demo version of Birth Ritual is much worse then the final version, a good example of a song improving a lot after the demo was done( and no the demo of Fell on Black Days is not as good as the album, version IMHO). Infact the first time i heard the demo BR at one stage i stopped the song because the sound irritated me, and i love the final version. I expect some people will disagree. both are written by chris, which these days seems > to elicit a more of a pop sound from the band, as compared to when he > wrote blind dogs. neither is great, but neither is bad. but I think that > ultimately you have to respect both songs because of the heart and energy > put into each. > > in any case, it beats two live songs :) What does that mean i loved the live version of Beyond the Wheel, much better then the original. Infact i can't help but think that if Soundgarden remade UltramegaOK it would sound great and much higher in the list of Soundgarden albums (currently last). If Suicidals can do it why not Soundgadren? PS just bought the new Album by the Hanging Tree great aussie band. I bet you all wished you lived in Australia, we have great music talent. Then again we see Soundgarden infrequently so thats a bad thing :( > > > ----------------------------------- > a thousand doors, a thousand lies > rooms a thousand years wide > - words by kim thayil > ----------------------------------- > > > "Rock n' roll doesn't have a soul, just a dick and a wallet" --- Kim Thayil ------------------------------ From: BTimLake@aol.com Subject: words not said and Schtuff >"My Porsche is a deluxe model. It has all the amenities... not to mention >RECLINING leather seats. Hey Shroom, wanna go for a... ride?" > ~ Chris Cornell > (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer I've been waiting for months for this. I contend that Chris Cornell has never said 'amenities.' I'm just betting it's a word he doesn't use. Kim, probably. Chris, I just kinda doubt it. I could be wrong, though. Other words Chris has probably not said: hootchie, trowel, eggplant, badmotorfinger, bread. Words Kim has probably not said: anything with less than three syllables. Words Ben has probably not said: Nice, kind, happy, gumby, hock-ptoo. I was once telling this guy how much I liked soundgarden, and I guess I was sorta trying to convince him that he should like soundgarden as much, too (of course realistically, that's absurd, but I can't imagine why else I was describing my love for the music). But he said he had always considered soundgarden a poor man's Pearl Jam. I do enjoy the music of both bands, but I just don't see it as comparable. Does anyone see striking similarities between the two, apart from the facts that they're both pretty much from seattle and have two incredible vocalists? I've always considered Alice in Chains a closer comparison. Speaking of which, what AIC songs would sommsters like to hear covered by SG? I would like to hear 'Man in The Box,' or 'love, hate, love.' -- Ben "Hey Susan, hand me that trowel, this hootchie's weilding a pretty deadly looking eggplant." ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer Ben Timberlake You know . . . Northwestern University . . . For kids! Medill School of Journalism btimlake@aol.com -30- http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "I didn't create this situation, I'm dealing with it." -Steve Buscemi "Reservoir Dogs" "Only happy when you hurt / Only deadly in a swarm Only healthy in the dirt / Only empty in your arms" -- Chris Cornell, "Rhinosaur" ------------------------------ From: BTimLake@aol.com Subject: list members page >> I think it would be cool to have a 'Get to know the mailing list' page >> that accompanies Seth's mailing list page. On this page, each member >> could give a brief description about themselves so newbies could kind >> of get to know us before subscribing and flaming us. Just a thought. > >ARGH!!!!! >and you WONDER why we flame?? > >go to http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/list > >it's ALREADY THERE!!!!!!!! >along with EVERY MESSAGE ever sent on the list... so you could read the >digests and get to know the list.... > >--caryn I was _almost_ going to do it, but I knew caryn would beat me. But I was going to do it in the more classic, patented, caryn style: Great idea! We could also put pictures of list members! and we could put it at http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/list ! Seth, how about this?! But, anyway, caryn beat me to it. -- Ben p.s. that is, caryn wouldn't beat me, physically, but she would do it before me. just in case there was any confusion there. Ben Timberlake You know . . . Northwestern University . . . For kids! Medill School of Journalism btimlake@aol.com -30- http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "I didn't create this situation, I'm dealing with it." -Steve Buscemi "Reservoir Dogs" "Only happy when you hurt / Only deadly in a swarm Only healthy in the dirt / Only empty in your arms" -- Chris Cornell, "Rhinosaur" ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: RE: words not said and Schtuff Coming from someone who still listens to TOTD daily, I would say that parts of the two compliment eachother incredibly well- each with their own style. What a joy to have both to listen to vs. making comparisons. It sucks that there is such a tendency in the music world to group all of the Seattle so-called grunge together....but anyone who takes the time to listen and not just hear (particularly to the older stuff) would see that they are so incredibly unique from eachother. And thank god they are. Definitely not Poor Man's anything. And Ben I do agree about Man in the Box - wud be awesome. I wud love to hear Chris do the vocals for Rooster and maybe Angry Chair. My $.02- Eliza >But he said he had always considered soundgarden a poor man's Pearl Jam. >I do enjoy the music of both bands, but I just don't see it as >comparable. Does anyone see striking similarities between the two, apart >from the facts that they're both pretty much from seattle and have two >incredible vocalists? >I've always considered Alice in Chains a closer comparison. >Speaking of which, what AIC songs would sommsters like to hear covered by SG? >I would like to hear 'Man in The Box,' or 'love, hate, love.' ------------------------------ From: Lightning Boy Subject: Re: words not said and Schtuff At 06:21 AM 8/16/96 -0400, you wrote: >I've always considered Alice in Chains a closer comparison. >Speaking of which, what AIC songs would sommsters like to hear covered by SG? >I would like to hear 'Man in The Box,' or 'love, hate, love.' Love Hate Love would be awesome. Chris' screaming is perfect for that song. And what about Rooster? I'm betting it would sound something like FOBD... The Lyrical Gangsta, Eric .__ .__ .__ __ .__ __________ | | |__| ____ | |___/ |_ ____ |__| ____ ____ \______ \ ____ ___.__. | | | |/ ___\| | \ __\/ \| |/ \ / ___\ | | _// _ < | | | |_| / /_/ > | \ | | | \ | | \/ /_/ > | | ( <_> )___ | |____/__\___ /|___| /__| |___| /__|___| /\___ / |______ /\____// ____| /_____/ \/ \/ \//_____/ \/ \/ +---------------------------------------------+ | aka Eric Bonus | | lightning@ag.net | | Keeper of the "Complete AIC Lyrics Songbook"| | http://www.ag.net/~lightning/aic/lyrics/ | +---------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: "David Searle" Subject: Re: more SG wish covers > someone else mentioned they wanted to hear Soundgarden do Summer In the City. > That one is by John Sabastion(sp) and the Lovin' Spoonful what do you think about hearing a full-on 'soundgardenized' version of Seasons? A cool 4th of July type version? dave ------------------------------ From: David Searle Subject: Re: words not said and Schtuff >I've always considered Alice in Chains a closer comparison. >Speaking of which, what AIC songs would sommsters like to hear covered by SG? >I would like to hear 'Man in The Box,' or 'love, hate, love.' How about 'God Smack'? dave ------------------------------ From: Nate Crosswhite Subject: Re: words not said and Schtuff >I've always considered Alice in Chains a closer comparison. >Speaking of which, what AIC songs would sommsters like to hear covered by SG? >I would like to hear 'Man in The Box,' or 'love, hate, love.' > -- Ben While I would love to hear any SG covers of AIC songs, I don't really think they could do them justice. AIC's songs are centered around vocal interactions between Layne and Jerry that IMHO Chris couldn't match, even with overdubbing. With that said, I'd kill to hear SG do Would?. That also brings up something I've been wondering about - why is Chris the only vocalist? Do the rest suck? Even though I've only heard Ben sing on Half, I was under the impression that he was at least a halfway decent singer. Oh yeah, he did sing some backups on Spoonman. I was hoping we would hear more of him on DOTU. Nate ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: question? seth, correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't the only way you can subscribe to the mailing list to come through the web page???? - --caryn ------------------------------ From: HOLMEST@198.81.231.2.dstm.com Subject: Re[2]: words not said and Schtuff >Does anyone see striking similarities between the two, apart >from >the facts that they're both pretty much from seattle and have two >incredible vocalists? Personally, I think Cornell blows away Eddie. Eddie's good, but just doesn't have the range. I'll be able to really compare after seeing PJ in October and just having seen SG in Atlanta in July. Later, Ignorant Flame-deserving Bunchypants ------------------------------ From: Stolen.Prayers@helix.xiii.com Subject: RE: and I saw it on the set... CA>I reckon "Never Named" should be released as a single. It's perky, it's fas i think its gonna be a single cause it was one of the songs on that 800 number deal.. but that just my theory =) ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: haiku generator (fwd) http://www.tripod.com/planet/toybox/haiku/haiku.shtml more haiku, anyone? :-))) (and yes, i did save them and yes, they will go on the web page. someday.) - --caryn ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: undernet application? this is odd... i thought you said that you posted it. can the list please get an update on this process? On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Jason Little wrote: > Cant see it when its not posted yet > > > At 10:44 PM 8/15/96 -0700, you wrote: > >can whoever is sponsoring this please tell me where i can go to see our > >application? > > > >thanks! > > > >--caryn > > > > ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: Re: sg on vacation On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, caryn rose wrote: > > so, what does everyone think the band is doing with their time off? > doing laundry? sitting on the beach? going fishing? renewing their > passports? > > --caryn > the evil list monster > > duh squared, they're drinking beer and playing hopscotch. what else would you do on vacation? ------------------------------ From: "B. Kinser" Subject: SHIRT ORDERS! (fwd) While cleaning out my mailbox I found this old post from ol' Nothingman. It gives an indication as to just how many shirts were originaly ordered. How many of these people came through with the money may be a different story. BTW, I did recieve my shirt and while I didn't really care for the shirt color, I found it acceptably done. BK - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 12 Apr 1996 13:03:50 EDT From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: SHIRT ORDERS! [snip snip, address of list members deleted] These are all the orders. If there's a mistake, TELL ME NOW! Nothingman -I'm feeling Outshined, so I'll just Swallow My Pride in my Jesus Christ Pose. ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: SHIRT ORDERS! (fwd) gang... we may be friends, but this is the INTERNET. i'm REALLY not happy with my address being posted to 600 people i don't know, or having it go on the web page. seth, can you eliminate this post from the digest, please??? we had this discussion the last time. ben, you just could have counted the amount of people and reported it. some of us are women who live alone with legitimate security concerns. - --caryn who's been online since 1988 ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: undernet application? i want to know where it goes. there is a place where people can go to voice their objections. based on your behavior from last night, i wish to voice my objection and withdraw my support for the application. as part of your responsibility as the person submitting the application, you need to provide us ALL with that opportunity. On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Jason Little wrote: > Nope i said that i submitted the application. I said ill post it when i get > the reply back. > > > > At 10:44 AM 8/16/96 -0700, you wrote: > > > >this is odd... i thought you said that you posted it. can the list please > >get an update on this process? > > > > > >On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Jason Little wrote: > > > >> Cant see it when its not posted yet > >> > >> > >> At 10:44 PM 8/15/96 -0700, you wrote: > >> >can whoever is sponsoring this please tell me where i can go to see our > >> >application? > >> > > >> >thanks! > >> > > >> >--caryn > >> > > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------ From: "B. Kinser" Subject: Re: SHIRT ORDERS! (fwd) OOPS! Sorry all. I guess I didn't take into consideration that it was personal addresses I was throwing out for all to see. Ten whacks with a bat full of nails. BK ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: undernet application? for some reason jason refuses to respond on the list.... those who supported the channel may still withdraw their support. eveyrone who supported the application may wish to write seth and get a log of last night's irresponsible conduct on the channel. we don't need a tyrant running our irc channel. in fact, i don't think we need to register it or need a bot. this isn't personal; this is an objection as a list member and regular of the channel and yes, it wil be taken seriously. On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Jason Little wrote: > Actually i cant tell you where it goes we send it to someone...once i have > confirmation of this i willl let you know. And if you want to withdraw > support that is perfectly fine with me. Because i have enough people even if > you and other three or four withdraw. Ill update the application and remove > you from it and resubmit it again. The only objections can be to the content > of the channel not who runs it. Your personal grudges wont get you anywhere. > > > At 12:24 PM 8/16/96 -0700, you wrote: > > > >i want to know where it goes. there is a place where people can go to > >voice their objections. based on your behavior from last night, i wish to > >voice my objection and withdraw my support for the application. as part > >of your responsibility as the person submitting the application, you need > >to provide us ALL with that opportunity. > > > >On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Jason Little wrote: > > > >> Nope i said that i submitted the application. I said ill post it when i get > >> the reply back. > >> > >> > >> > >> At 10:44 AM 8/16/96 -0700, you wrote: > >> > > >> >this is odd... i thought you said that you posted it. can the list please > >> >get an update on this process? > >> > > >> > > >> >On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Jason Little wrote: > >> > > >> >> Cant see it when its not posted yet > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> At 10:44 PM 8/15/96 -0700, you wrote: > >> >> >can whoever is sponsoring this please tell me where i can go to see our > >> >> >application? > >> >> > > >> >> >thanks! > >> >> > > >> >> >--caryn > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: One of the banned Yeah, that's right gang. A permanant member of the #somms hot tub was threatened with a permanent ban from the channel itself by the little tyrant fuck Jason once he has it registered. In his own words, he says #somms will be his. He constantly refered to the channel as "mine". So, if he won't talk about it on the list, I sure as hell will. He even banned me for a while last night. After one of the most shitty days of the year so far he did this. I will not stand for that shit. The channel belongs to all of us. He's hardly ever in there, I should know, I'm in there all the time. Most of the regulars can verify that. So who is he to say who can and can not use the channel that is for the list? Just a little fair warning Jason, I wouldn't show your face around #somms in the near future. And don't bother ever coming to WA either, cause if you do I will have a field day beating the living shit out of you. And another thing Jason, don't fuck with the Thug, especially when he asks you not to. He doesn't take kindly to that, and has a real good memory for shit like that. I might just have to call the KTMS into action against this egotistical little fuckhead. And not saying anything about your actions to the list is sooooo Nothingman all over again. One would think you'd have learned a little lesson from Nothinggate and figured out we don't like to be screwed. You haven't heard the last from me. An angered List Thug and proud KTMS member, Aaron "Aaron, I want you to beat some sense into that worthless fuck and spare no mercy!!!"-Kim Thayil ------------------------------ From: Stolen.Prayers@helix.xiii.com Subject: i dunno if im crazy or what but i swear to god that i hear a piano in never named; does anyone else hear it? like during the chorus? on the right speaker? has this been discussed before and i just didn't botherto read the post? =) ------------------------------ Subject: No log here From: seth I do *NOT* have the log of the other night's #somms war. So quit asking! :) Caryn, I think you mistook me for someone else...? seth ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: boycott #somms On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Jason Little wrote: > Yes everyone may withdraw their support but as i said i have plenty of names > of those who will support me. So Caryn the channel will be mine. this is a very community-spirited sentance. fine. i say we boycott that channel. you can have your channel jason, but little good it will do you if none of us go on it. #somms1 - --caryn ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: Re: words not said and Schtuff My thoughts on an AIC cover? Okay, I think Chemical Addiction would sound really good. I would also like to hear Sunshine. That's just my half cent worth. The slightly calmed down List Thug and proud KTMS member, Aaron ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: and I saw it on the set... Blind Dog wrote: >>so continuing (sort of) from a recent thread, what other songs from down on the upside do listers think will be or conceivably could be released as singles? >>................any thoughts?=20 YES!! Shock, horror! :-O =20 *I* have a thought. (hi there all, look out for there'll possibly be a couple of notes I'll = be selecting to reply to out of the last 24 hours of Somms mail I've = received) I reckon "Never Named" should be released as a single. It's perky, it's = fast, it's easy to listen to, it's not too lengthy for radio play, and = it would give non-Soundgarden freaks out there an insight into the fact = that Soundgarden is not a band to be easily categorised. Okay, now that was an easy comment. I say it's time for me to go for = some more thought-provoking, flamable comments by little ole = me.......... But before I do, I must say I thought Ben Timberlake's response to this = question Blind Dog asked was HILARIOUS. Ah, I do so love this = list................ Carolyn the Maiden Fair I'm feeling that I'm sober even though I'm drinking....Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: ben's mailing list etiquette/internet access Caryn wrote - and this was on one of her GOOD days, newbies! ;-)=20 >>just repeating it for the large amount of people who CLEARLY need to = be taught this. >>you can read the old digests on the page... >> >>http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden >> Howdy, Caryn! :-) Oh boy has it been a fun time on the list in the = last day or so. Not just one scolding by you, but SEVERAL!! Yeeeehah, = does this make my day or what........ But I just thought I'd better defend some of our less informed Somms = members out there because - NOT ALL PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACCESS TO EMAIL HAVE = ACCESS TO THE INTERNET. =20 So the only way for these folk to get some info about their favourite = band is to join a mailing list of that band and ask the list members for = some help. Is it really fair to get so furious with them? {When I first joined this list I was doing it from my workplace - and we = only had limited access to the modem line. There was certainly no time = or money to be able to surf the 'net. And I'm sure several of those who = ask the questions of our members that could probably be answered by = looking at Seth's web page are like I used to be, with no internet = access.} >>"gee, i wish the usual suspects would wake up and post, i'm getting = tired of this garbage" -- matt cameron Am I one of the "usual suspects"?? If so, I've = awoken................... Carolyn the Murky & Formless People worry - what are they worrying about today?.....Violent Femmes ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: Enough...... Guess what?? Here I am again.............. Jamesetta Simpson wrote: >>Come on people, enough.... All there has been today is flames and = stupid bitching..=20 If people can't come here and ask question what good is it to have a = mail list....... I guess that was the point I was trying to make in my last post. Don't = forget, we all joined this list in the first place for a whole multitude = of different reasons. >> The web page is so big now that you can miss stuff.......... Another reason for being able to ask questions on the mailing list - not = just because you don't have web access. >>Just remember you were new to this game once yourself...and yes we are = all entitled to our comments which means the new people on the list also. Instead of = condemning them, send off a private note telling them where to find the info. =20 Now that sounds like a good idea. Why is it that people feel they have = to humiliate others publicly? Why not just do it privately? "Aw gee, but THAT'S no fun", I can hear Shroom say!! :-) >>Do you realize how much it hurts to have someone on this list be so = hard on you just because you asked a question. Especially when it comes from = the so called "List Click". And don't hand me any shit about it's the way of the = world if you can't handle it move over. Maybe that's the problem with the world - to = much hate, no helping hands.. This list is not the world, but do we have to act = like it.. =20 Jamie, I salute you. What a wonder with words...... >>As for the note to Shroom, hey she handle it. And I got to tell you = she handle it with allot more kindness than some of the other notes. =20 Yeah, so I think I'm gonna salute you too, Shroom. [salute] >>As for rules and regulations - - - that is Seth's job no one else's. If you feel someone is doing = something that is not in accorded with the list - tell Seth and let him handle it.. =20 Another good idea from the Village Idiot - Seth does so love to be = involved in things like this, right Seth? ;-) >>Now, let see if we can get through a few days without cutting people = off at the knees.=20 I hope I didn't cut anyone's legs off, for I didn't mean it that way = (but then, nor did Mind Riot when she suggested that flames were being = done without thinking - yet she received a flame for her trouble, I = noticed). I'm just trying to state my opinion, which is, as we have all = so often been told, MY RIGHT. Carolyn the Merciless & Forthright I always seem to get in a fight.....Inflatable Soule ------------------------------ From: Chris Farley Subject: IRC Please help, I use Mirc4.0. I can never log into the undernet. I = always get too many users or connection timed out or some shit like = that. I can usually get thought on irc1.cerf.net. But no Somms channel = there. What do I do? Chris ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: RE: One of the banned Speaking of the evil awful devil, guess who is in the spa as we speak? Guess he can' t take a hint ot a warning, or a threat from our beloved Thug bodyguard!!! ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: No log here On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, seth wrote: > I do *NOT* have the log of the other night's #somms war. > > So quit asking! :) > > Caryn, I think you mistook me for someone else...? i'm sorry. i apologize. i came in after last night's battle and was told by the channel inhabitants that seth had logged it. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: undernet. registering a channel on the undernet has one purpose and one purpose only: to give an established channel a regular place to meet and allows you to run a bot. you have to document that the channel is being used regularly. that's the reason you have to give names of 10 regular users. the application is posted to alt.irc.undernet on usenet wehre it sits for 14 days. it sits there to document any objections individuals have to the channel. if people can testify that no one uses the channel, and that the names there are false and that the person registering the channel has bragged that he is using names of people who aren't on the channel ever, if there are enough convincing and serious complaints, the applicaiton *will* be denied. this isn't EFnet. i was all for registering the channel; but once again we had the nothingman situation. because i was too lazy to do it myself, or any of the 'regulars' (who if you don't like you at least know are around and you can trust) -- we now have a power-hungry megalomaniac banning anyone who says osmething he doesn't like. in case you were interested, i would have made it a standard policy that anyone on the list would be opped, and people would only be de-opped if they abused that power. kicks aren't serious, you do that asa joke sometimes. bans, however, are VERY serious, and are only done when people are being abusive verbally to another channel member. jason, this isn't *your* channel. the channel belongs to the list, and the list members. go ahead and register it. none of us will visit it. what satisfaction are you deriving from this?? this is why i HATE irc and hadn't been on since january. i watched a community of friends get destroyed by one power hungry individual who had no other way to prove their worth than by running a bot on irc. it's very sad, actually. jason, you are never on the channel. it's very odd. why does this mean so much to you? - --caryn ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: RE: One of the banned On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Eliza J Polly wrote: > Speaking of the evil awful devil, guess who is in the spa as we speak? Guess he can' t take a hint ot a warning, or a threat from our beloved Thug bodyguard!!! > not only is jason in #somms, with a bot, but he's also in #somms1 with a bot. i do not understand t his... jason, why are you doing this? do you think that you can drive us off of irc? why do you have to control the channel that this l ist meets on? is this a personal vendetta against seth? (i'm reaching here, gang, i am just trying to figure out his motivation for running a bot on any channel we go to.) we do not need registration... or a bot. and no matter what you do, jason, we will find a place to meet. you cannot pull the usual EFnet tricks on undernet. we are allowed to meet where we want to, jason. you have no right or domain over any of us. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Re: SHIRT ORDERS! (fwd) This was my first chance to check my mail today, so I'll respond to everything else later... but I have to say this: Gee... I'm SO glad that my ADDRESS got posted AGAIN. I was afraid that none of the OTHER PSYCHOS out there on the list MIGHT NOT HAVE IT. Didn't I threaten Nothingman's life a couple of times for doing this? Ok, like I said... maybe I'm paranoid... but I really don't want fifty million people (or however many listers there are now) to know where I live at. It's not the known people I worry about... it's the SILENT ones. Those are probably the REALLY twisted ones. So PLEASE... can you people KINDLY AVOID posting MY ADDRESS on the list? THANK YOU VERY *#&#$& MUCH. Shroom Red Haired Devil-Hootchie, Proud member of the Kim Thayil Mercenary Squad, and Seattle-bound-obsessed-SOMMS-psycho (See you in October, Chris and Matt!!!) "AHA!! Now I know where you live at, you obsessed little hootchie!! I'm going to get you, and your little dog, too!!!" ~ Susan Silver (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Re: SHIRT ORDERS! (fwd) Ummm... YEAH, WHAT CARYN SAID!!!!! (Guess I should take the time to read ALL my mail before I respond, huh?) ;-) >gang... we may be friends, but this is the INTERNET. >i'm REALLY not happy with my address being posted to 600 people i don't >know, or having it go on the web page. >seth, can you eliminate this post from the digest, please??? >we had this discussion the last time. ben, you just could have counted >the amount of people and reported it. some of us are women who live >alone with legitimate security concerns. >--caryn >who's been online since 1988 ------------------------------ From: BTimLake@aol.com Subject: Re: SHIRT ORDERS! (fwd) >gang... we may be friends, but this is the INTERNET. > >i'm REALLY not happy with my address being posted to 600 people i don't >know, or having it go on the web page. > >seth, can you eliminate this post from the digest, please??? > >we had this discussion the last time. ben, you just could have counted >the amount of people and reported it. some of us are women who live >alone with legitimate security concerns. Woah there. Just wanted to point out that it was not _I_ who posted those addresses to the list. My reaction was the same as your, caryn. I know there are several Bens on the list, but I would like to point out that bkinser happens to be a _Brian_. Just wanted to keep my good name (ben). -- Ben Ben Timberlake You know . . . Northwestern University . . . For kids! Medill School of Journalism btimlake@aol.com -30- http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "I didn't create this situation, I'm dealing with it." -Steve Buscemi "Reservoir Dogs" "Only happy when you hurt / Only deadly in a swarm Only healthy in the dirt / Only empty in your arms" -- Chris Cornell, "Rhinosaur" ------------------------------ From: BTimLake@aol.com Subject: Re: words not said and Schtuff >While I would love to hear any SG covers of AIC songs, I don't really >think they could do them justice. AIC's songs are centered around >vocal interactions between Layne and Jerry that IMHO Chris couldn't >match, even with overdubbing. true, but Chris's overdubbing can do some mind-boggling stuff. Also, with later AIC stuff, Layne's role (in vocals, but not as frontman) is becoming less important. But, before I piss off Layne lovers (myself included, to a lesser degree) that's Alice In Chains and this is somms. >With that said, I'd kill to hear SG do Would?. > >That also brings up something I've been wondering about - why is Chris >the only vocalist? Do the rest suck? Even though I've only heard >Ben sing on Half, I was under the impression that he was at least a >halfway decent singer. Oh yeah, he did sing some backups on Spoonman. >I was hoping we would hear more of him on DOTU. I would sorta like to hear Kim do vocals. It could be rotten, but ya never know 'till you hear it. Matt does backup for Mind Riot live. I don't really think it does justice to the studio version, but I maintain that I can die happy when I have heard this opus live. -- Ben Ben Timberlake You know . . . Northwestern University . . . For kids! Medill School of Journalism btimlake@aol.com -30- http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "I didn't create this situation, I'm dealing with it." -Steve Buscemi "Reservoir Dogs" "Only happy when you hurt / Only deadly in a swarm Only healthy in the dirt / Only empty in your arms" -- Chris Cornell, "Rhinosaur" ------------------------------ From: BTimLake@aol.com Subject: undernet application I withdraw my name from the undernet application. -- Ben "Everything I gave is what I need" Ben Timberlake You know . . . Northwestern University . . . For kids! Medill School of Journalism btimlake@aol.com -30- http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "I didn't create this situation, I'm dealing with it." -Steve Buscemi "Reservoir Dogs" "Only happy when you hurt / Only deadly in a swarm Only healthy in the dirt / Only empty in your arms" -- Chris Cornell, "Rhinosaur" ------------------------------ From: Jason Little Subject: #Somms Awwww well you guys can have #somms back now, since im feeling generous...and since im a greedy power hungry user maybe ill just go take teens or something. have fun and have a sommster day! ------------------------------ From: Jason Little Subject: #somms hey i offered and noone wants the channel so i guess ill just log off. Anyway lata ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: RE: #Somms No thanks, don't want it or need it - ---------- From: Jason Little Sent: Friday, August 16, 1996 8:54 PM To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: #Somms Awwww well you guys can have #somms back now, since im feeling generous...and since im a greedy power hungry user maybe ill just go take teens or something. have fun and have a sommster day! ------------------------------ From: dbradsh@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: undernet BULLSHIT what now that loser is going to go around systematically throughout undernet and register EVERY SINGLE fucking channel??? yeah right...he just doesnt seem to get it does he?? so tired of all of this... Dee Dee Bradshaw-Autry http://www.angelfire.com/pages1/deedee/index.html ------------------------------ From: iawake@ix.netcom.com (Chris (SGardnGrl)) Subject: Come on get happy! I have to write to say that I am just a little bit baffled as to why people want to be so cruel and nasty to others. PEOPLE! This is a an opportunity to unite fellow Soundgarden fans and the reason why we all post....which I thought was to get others together who share a mutual enjoyment of Soundgardens music. If not, would someone please let me know what we ARE here for? In the last few digests, I have noticed how rude some people have been (you know who you are) to others just simply asking questions. And I just cannot be silent any longer... Unless you think you know everything there is to know about the band and their music, and never plan on ever asking a SG related question yourself... then I might be able to see why you feel it to be your task to flame others just for knowing LESS related trivia than yourself. But the fact is.....no one knows EVERYTHING... just some pretending to be more high & mighty, that they feel they won't lower themselves to answer any "newbies" questions...It's the "OH Honey, where have YOU been???"... Syndrome. Quite frankly, IT IS SAD! Lets just get off our high horses shall we?????? So now we can concentrate on what is important here on this digest. Which should be... Fellow fans sharing the common music tread of SOUNDGARDEN!!!! SGardnGrl (SG)-->-- ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: Re: Come on get happy! on 16 aug 1996, Chris (SGardenGrl [iawake@ix.netcom.com] wrote: >I have to write to say that I am just a little bit baffled as to why >people want to be so cruel and nasty to others. PEOPLE! This is a an >opportunity to unite fellow Soundgarden fans and the reason why we all >post....which I thought was to get others together who share a mutual >enjoyment of Soundgardens music. If not, would someone please let me >know what we ARE here for? In the last few digests, I have noticed how >rude some people have been (you know who you are) to others just simply >asking questions. And I just cannot be silent any longer... > >Unless you think you know everything there is to know about the band >and their music, and never plan on ever asking a SG related question >yourself... then I might be able to see why you feel it to be your task >to flame others just for knowing LESS related trivia than yourself. >But the fact is.....no one knows EVERYTHING... >just some pretending to be more high & mighty, that they feel they >won't lower themselves to answer any "newbies" questions...It's the "OH >Honey, where have YOU been???"... Syndrome. Quite frankly, IT IS SAD! >Lets just get off our high horses shall we?????? > >So now we can concentrate on what is important here on this digest. >Which should be... > > Fellow fans sharing the common music tread of SOUNDGARDEN!!!! > > at the risk of being flamed yet again but the elders, i must say i agree. maybe i just shouldn't agree with anything anyone says. seems like the agree-ers get flamed for agreeing while the original posters do not. uh oh, i guess i'm in for it now. just one quick thought though, why in hell would i join a list like this just to put down the group? seriously, people. if i didn't like SG, i sure as hell wouldn't have signed onto seth's webpage in the first place and therefore wouldn't be HERE trying to further my knowledge of SG, WHOM I LOVE TO DEATH. my $.02 that will be up in flames in no time.... mind riot hey matt, sorry about all this bullshit. ____ warm and sweet swinging from a window's ledge tight and deep one last sin before i'm dead a sucking holy wind will take me from this bed tonight and bloody wits another hits me and i have to say goodbye... - --chris cornell "tighter & tighter" ------------------------------ From: ar303921@student.uq.edu.au (Lee Christensen) Subject: RAGE, Aust members Only!! small sg content Hey ya, Just heard that the Presidents are programming RAGE tonight, thought I might let everyone know, and the small SG content, well Kim did that song on the album and well we just might get a few SG clips in tonights rage. Hope so anyway. Should be good enough clips anyway one would hope. Set those video recorders. seeya Lee _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ SONIC E-mail ar303921@student.uq.edu.au Turn it UP and Play it LOUD!! Let the blood rush to your head!! CD I'm listening to this week: "YAY or NAY" by Sarbiem, another Bris band kicking butt ------------------------------ From: melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net Subject: Re: SG shirt At 06:35 PM 8/5/96 +-100, Mo wrote: >Anyone got that really silly looking SG shirt with a broken Tricycle >as a front print and for a back print, a wheel saying "Come stand me up" >Jeez am I sorry for buying that... > >Mo. YES! AND DAMMIT I LOVE THAT SHIRT! SINNER!!! If you don't like it, you could always send it to me. Jesus Christ, that shirt kicks ass. I'm the only person I know who has it. mOtherfunker. Gregg ____________________________________ | | HEAVY ROTATION-- | http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | "Opiate" | melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net | --Tool |____________________________________| "Choices always were a problem for you, what you need is someone strong to guide you. Deaf & blind & dumb and born to follow, what you need is someone strong to use you. Like me... Like me... If you want to get your sould to heaven, trust in me, don't you judge or question. You are broken, only faith can heal you, just do everything I tell you to do My God's will/becomes me when he speaks out/he speaks through me He has needs like I do We both want to rape you jesus christ why don't you come save my life now open my eyes and blind me with your light . . . and lies" ---"Opiate" Tool ------------------------------ From: Rigail Subject: Soundgarden What do you think of the last album "Down on the upside"?(Comments) Personnaly I prefer this one than Superunkown. ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 216] ****************************************