From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 31 Oct 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 03:50:39 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Thursday, 31 Oct 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: where's mike mccready? my god, he's been ate! (new post)... Just for anyone who's interested. my two cents on moshing Thank-you San Diego Show NOV 30th! Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 26 Oct 1996 Re: MOSHING garden of souls Re:Why is Chris being tortured SndGrDn UnPlugged BLOW UP eMTyV's WORLD homicidal brewicidal... she'll never make it out alive... Re: she'll never make it out alive... Silver Management i know yr half afraid, half amazed... Re: MOSHING Re: homicidal brewicidal... Collection of B-side RESPONSE!!!!!!!! and drown in alcohol... ------------------------------------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: where's mike mccready? my god, he's been ate! (new post)... some guy just requested 'black hole sun' down here on jjj, and what was interesting to me is that it was an edited version. from what I remember, the section around the lead break/guitar bridge was shortened. I'm pretty sure this didn't happen in the video version, but considering that just about every other soundgarden single has been edited in some fashion it isn't very surprising. which brings me to 'blow up the outside world'. when it is aired on the radio, is it edited in any way? I imagine that the end would have to be tinkered with a little, just to get some airplay. it hasn't really been played here in australia on the radio (at least not that I've heard), so I don't know what version the stations here are playing. any answers? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wrecker" <9551219@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Subject: Just for anyone who's interested. Well, not too long ago I was bopping around Wembley Arena to those mighty stalwarts of the grunge sound Pearl Jam. For those of you who may or perhaps may not be interested...... IT WAS ABSOLUTELY BLOODY BRILLIANT!!!!! I think it's safe to say that life doesn't get any better than jumping around to Jeremy when the said band are a mere 20 yards away. Here's a list of what they played (In no particular order) EVEN FLOW ALIVE JEREMY OCEANS PORCH STATE OF LOVE AND TRUST GO ANIMAL DAUGHTER DISSIDENT BLOOD REARVIEWMIRROR ELDERLY WOMAN..BLAH........SMALL TOWN LAST EXIT SPIN THE BLACK CIRCLE NOT FOR YOU WHIPPING CORDOROUY (If that's how you spell it) BETTERMAN IMMORTALITY SOMETIMES HAIL HAIL IN MY TREE SMILE OFF HE GOES And a few others I can't remember. Well, I have only two other goals in life left before I die 1 Graduate 2 Win the lottery The former of which is probably harder to attain than the latter! Cheers and beers, Andrew Clarke PS It would be cool to hear how you al are doing! Even flow thoughts arrive like butterflies, Oh he don't know, so he chases them awayiayay!! ------------------------------ From: Monnica Lewis Subject: my two cents on moshing Hi Just thought I'd throw my comments on moshing into the discussion. I don't like moshing either. Since this whole trend started, I never get to get up close at shows anymore. It's just not worth risking personal injury. So, eventhough some people think its a little totalitarian (sp?) to ban moshing, I personally am happy about it. Getting "beaten up" is not my idea of fun. Neither is having all those strangers invading my personal space - - but that's another story ;-). bye Monnica ------------------------------ From: Paul_Faraguna@dbna.com (Paul Faraguna) Subject: Thank-you I just wanted to drop this line to say "Thanks" to Cyn Siragusa. She was able to set me up with an extra pair of tkts to the Sat.11/16 SG show at Roseland here in NYC. She drove from the northern end of the city to drop them off to me where I work. Thanks to this list for making it possible, too. Now I'll be seeing them Sat. and Sun. So, I'll have seen them 3 times in 5 months (LOLLA '96). Out of control! Hopefully, we can assemble all NY area SOMMSters for the show. Thanks! Paul "Well, are you gonna pull those pistols, or whistle Dixie?" -Josey Wales ------------------------------ From: AntiDog@aol.com Subject: San Diego Show NOV 30th! Hello all. Though I'm new to the digest, I'm definitely not new to SGdom. Is anyone on the list going to the San Diego show? The '94 show was just great... Though I think the venue is like being inside a tin can, but the band is really so fine.... Rocket from the Crypt opening.... totally cool. ------------------------------ From: "Michael Smith" <72830097@enterprise.west-fargo.k12.nd.us> Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 26 Oct 1996 It was said that SG was going to be in South Dakota, where, for the love of Budah tell me where ------------------------------ From: AMMENDOZA@SCUACC.SCU.EDU Subject: Re: MOSHING during soundgardens performance at san jose state's spartan stadium for lollapolooza '96, chris cornell, in between songs, looked up at the seating section closest to the stage and said to the people sitting down, "what's the point of being so close to the stage if your not going to get hurt?" this says two things; first, that soundgarden isn't against moshing like i have been hearing people say, and two, mosh pits are just a part of all concerts now a days with little anyone can do about it. the music of the nineties is so energetic that concert goers need a way to release this adrenaline flow; hence the mosh pit. i am really getting tired of complainers!! i have been to concerts before where everybody stood around just listening to the music and it was dull. i could just as easily listen to the CD in my room. the reason i go to concerts is for the energy live performances create. i don i don't think that moshing takes away anything from the performance; if anything it makes the show even better. i have been to alot of shows where there were some heavy mosh pits, and i have seen people get hurt. but the people who always get hurt are the ones who freak out once the music starts. they end up hurting themselves. others who get hurt all the time are little junior high kids who think they are able to handle being up front for,lets say, a metallica show. before any show, i can almost hand pick the people most likely to get hurt. so if you think you can't handle the pit, and you know who you are, stay out of it!! if you don't like mosh pits, go up and sit in the seats, or stand in the back area where you can still see the band real good, and you don't have to worry about people landing on your head. that's my two cents. anthony ------------------------------ From: Dan Murphy Subject: garden of souls Seattle Area SOMMSters: does anyone have a copy of Garden of Souls that they would be willing to part with for the weekend as i am interested in duping it. i broke my CD copy of it, and the tape version isn't sounding so great nowadays...:( any and all help appreciated... dan danno@wood.net ------------------------------ From: Jentje Subject: Re:Why is Chris being tortured The truth is, he isn't being tortured. Not really anyway. I know it's really hard to tell from the little image clips, but you know how there are people in chairs sitting on either side of him? Well, they're "scientists" or something, Chris is hooked up to all sorts of monitors and machines that tell his heart rate, eye movement etc... On the screen they're not always showing images of the band, there are images that go titles like "love" "country" "mother" "father" "me". Some of the images are a bit disturbing for some (one of the ones for love was a side view of a naked couple going about their buisiness). It looks like those experimenters are trying to judge Chris's reactions to all the different images, if he has any at all. The only time he actually smiles is when the chorus of the song goes "Blow up the outside....". Hope that helps! Toodles!! ~>Jenn >------------------------------------------------------------ > >From: Valahovic >Subject: Why is Chris being Tortured? > >From: Stephanie Valahovic (former lurker) > > > If you have seen >the video or looked at the clips, what is your interpretation >of Chris' in the chair watching himself and his band on TV, >and at the same time being tortured in a business suite? > >------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ From: jason kruschke Subject: SndGrDn UnPlugged Hello SOMMSters, I am new to the list. Just got online last week and this is my first chance to write. I read someones mail that had talked about a Soundgarden Unpluugged. I think it would be a great idea. I wish they would do something like that because that is another of their musical elements I would love seeing. I like it when bands do stuff like that. It brings out the emotional side within themselves and their music. Granted, they probably won't do something like that anytime soon, or ever for that fact, but if they did, it would be awesome to here them play a couple of covers of other people's music that are meant to be played acoustically. By far, Chris has the most powerful voice of any singer and he channels it into many emotions. Well, I'll stop taking up so much space for my first time. Let me know what ya think and it's great to be here!!!! Hummer P.S. For anyone going to the Chicago show, can you remember the song list and post it. I would like to know what they are playing this time around, because funds won't allow me to go, and they aren't stoppin' at Milwaukee!!! Later. ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (RoseeMisst) Subject: BLOW UP eMTyV's WORLD I'm just as excited as anyone else about the BUTOW video. The clips on Seth's site(http:/sgi.net/soundgarden/releases/vid-blowup.html) heighten my excitement. It looks as if this is going to be one of their best videos yet! But, because of the content of this video and its "cinematic quality"(at least that's the way it looks), it may get overplayed like Black Hole Sun. Watching this vid will probably make me get sick of BUTOW, like what happened when BHS was overplayed, but most likely I'll flip the channels once I see the video a few times. RoseeMisst ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: homicidal brewicidal... this is just a little something I received from a guy on the pumpkins list. I think it appeared in the latest guitar world magazine, or something of that nature. looks like kim has finally written a song on his favourite topic :) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Yep, it's called "Smell The Fuzz" and it's got a picture of a Fender Jaguar on the front (if you're familiar with Fender stuff)ok, i'll start the quote right when Kim Thayil is mentioned...: "...which is followed by Soundgarden guitarist Kim Thayil's brooding side project, Dark Load. Thayil unshackles some ultra-fast riffage on the ale and hearty "Brewicide," which takes off into stratospheric realms that should have swillers and chuggers swaying with ecstacy." I guess the song's called "Brewicide." Cool, huh? ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: she'll never make it out alive... On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Taylor Holmes wrote: > Although I agree that moshing is a unescapable fact of today's heavy > concerts, that does'nt reconsile the fact that people should be able to > get close to thier favorite bands without being injured. Your > philosophy of "if you can't handle it then go to the back" is exactly > the attitude people should *NOT* have. Personally, I am a rather big, you touched on the core of the matter perfectly, taylor. the whole thing is about respect, and the lack of same that seems to be rampant at live shows these days. that it is inescapable is kind of sad. I just hope that when soundgarden comes to your part of town, you show some common sense and respect your fellow fans by 1. not jumping on their heads and 2. giving them a helping hand if they need it. above all, try and remember that the music that matt, chris, ben and kim are playing is not just a soundtrack to your own action movie. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: Re: she'll never make it out alive... on Oct 30, 1996, blind dog wrote: > I just hope that when soundgarden comes to your part of town, you >show some common sense and respect your fellow fans by 1. not jumping on >their heads and 2. giving them a helping hand if they need it. above all, >try and remember that the music that matt, chris, ben and kim are playing >is not just a soundtrack to your own action movie. totally right on the mark. i'm actually a little scared to go fight for position. i was at a Foo Fighters concert last summer and it was INSANE how the drunken frat boys were pushing around! at a FF concert! so, please, don't hurt us 17 year old girls cause we love SG just as much as the rest of you guys! I'm determined to get up front and hopefully near center stage but i'm afraid of losing my friend to the masses and getting landed on by some jackass's dr. martin 20 eyelet heel. so yeah, it is getting a little way violent. especially the spinning circular mini mosh pit type things. wow, they're really bad. getting caught in or near one is NOT fun. it's too annoying when you have to worry about fighting off people more than concentrating on music and bands you came to hear/see. mind riot ____ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i'm tied within i'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: Silver Management hey, does anyone readily have the address, phone number and fax number (if one exsists) of Silver's Managements? i'd like to write them concerning the few of us that are going to the Philly show on Nov 21. and anyone who is going, please privately mail me. to the Nov 21 Electric Factory show in center city, philly. thanks guys! ____ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i'm tied within i'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: i know yr half afraid, half amazed... hey, does anyone know around how many copies of the duct taped CD version of Louder Than Live were ever made? i own one, and i'm just trying to figure out exactly how valuable it could be cause i got it for only $40... later, mind riot (sorry about the numerous posts!) ____ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i'm tied within i'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: Re: MOSHING AMMENDOZA@SCUACC.SCU.EDU wrote: > > during soundgardens performance at san jose state's spartan stadium for > lollapolooza '96, chris cornell, in between songs, looked up at the seating > section closest to the stage and said to the people sitting down, "what's > the point of being so close to the stage if your not going to get hurt?" This, quite obviously to me, is another one of Cornell's facetious comments poking fun at the idiots who go to concerts to maul each other. Although I agree that moshing is a unescapable fact of today's heavy concerts, that does'nt reconsile the fact that people should be able to get close to thier favorite bands without being injured. Your philosophy of "if you can't handle it then go to the back" is exactly the attitude people should *NOT* have. Personally, I am a rather big, strong guy who can easily handle any of the crap people dish out in the mosh pits, but what about the ladies (although I've seen some pretty ruthless moshing ladies in my time) and smaller kids who have just as much right to be up front as you or me? It's all just a matter of decency and respect for others. There are even unwritten "Moshing guidelines" for people who do decide to get in the action, that help protect people. The fact that these new age, red-neck, douche bag, tough guy wanna be's and frat kids don't adhere to any sence of respect is what makes this issue important. The last concert I went to, I had to stick a fist down this drunken asshole's throat to keep him from annhialating this crying girl next to me. I probably looked like just as much of a meat head by doing this, but maybe this guy learned to gain some respect for people. Keep in mind that if you don't have some consideration for people, someone out there who's bigger than you might teach you how it feels with a good pop to the nose and tell you to go sit in the back if you can't handle it... and my use of 'you' is not meaning anyone in particular... :) Later, Taylor ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: Re: homicidal brewicidal... Blind Dog got this from a Pumpkins list: >Yep, it's called "Smell The Fuzz" and it's got a picture of a Fender >Jaguar on the front (if you're familiar with Fender stuff)ok, i'll start >the quote right when Kim Thayil is mentioned...: >"...which is followed by Soundgarden guitarist Kim Thayil's brooding side >project, Dark Load. Thayil unshackles some ultra-fast riffage on the ale >and hearty "Brewicide," which takes off into stratospheric realms that >should have swillers and chuggers swaying with ecstacy." >I guess the song's called "Brewicide." Cool, huh? Oppps, I forgot to report about this. I got my copy Saturday morning. Actually as I walked into work that morning my superior skipped to the Darkload track. I said as I was rounding the counter, "That sounds JUST like Kim Thayil of Soundgarden!" Chuck commenting on my ability to always amaze him & said it was in fact Kim with Darkload. The backing guitar rhythm feels a lot like "Blind Dogs" with all sorts of swirling percussion & bass-lines hidden behind Kim's soloing. Often Kim's line sounds like an extension of "New Damage"... in fact he bleeds out a few of those cool ultra-high 'squeeks' that can be heard in the opening of "ND" through out the song. Essentially I'd say this song is a good cross between the occasional ambience found on the last few Soundgarden projects ("Applebite", "Jerry Garcia's Finger", etc) but with a definate "Kim" hardness: "New Damage", "Beyond The Wheel", "Never The Machine Forever"-type stuff. All in all it's a sonicly (new word?) cool song but not really worth the price of admission just for that one track. Pick it up used (tons of promos are supposedly being released) unless you just really think you might be able to get into the other songs on their (which are generally listenable but lacking say a good surf stomper). Sorry for the delay in my report (c: Afterall I JUST finished my last final for this term so I'm free for another week & a half! work work work... Ray (c: ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: Collection of B-side RESPONSE!!!!!!!! OK, it looks like a ton of you SOMMSters are interested in the collection so let me tell you what's going on....... It's going to take a couple of weeks. The #1 reason for that is because I'm waiting to get the 3 copies of BUTOW singles I ordered. I want them on the collection so it's not instantly dated in a month. Second, I'm getting some help. There are a few songs I don't have and Ray, in Gulfort MS has "generously" offered to help. So the collection should be fairly extensive. Plus, the list has become so big it's going to take a few tapes to get it all on. Anyway, When I get it all done, I'll put out a BIG posting announcement with my address on it and you guys can mail me your orders. I'll provide tapes and stuff. With postage it should only be about $5 - $7. So keep your eyes out, I promise I'll have them by X-mas so all your stockings will be stuffed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (c: - -Lance- "Fopp me Right don't Fopp me Wrong We'll be here Foppin' All night long" ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: and drown in alcohol... On Thu, 31 Oct 1996 UnknMan@aol.com wrote: > The backing guitar rhythm feels a lot like "Blind Dogs" with all sorts of > swirling percussion & bass-lines hidden behind Kim's soloing. Often Kim's > line sounds like an extension of "New Damage"... in fact he bleeds out a few > of those cool ultra-high 'squeeks' that can be heard in the opening of "ND" > through out the song. Essentially I'd say this song is a good cross between does anyone else appear on the track ray, or does kim dabble in the art of percussion this time 'round? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 290] ****************************************