From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 1 Nov 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 03:25:46 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Friday, 1 Nov 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: *BACKSTAGE PASS* MOTORVISION hello Re: MOSHING moshing.. you people are wrong Happy Halloween!!! CHI-CA-GO!!! Re:Why is Cris being tortured? Spoonman Attention Knights Of The Soundtable!!! HERE'S THE CONCLUSION...... Re: Happy Halloween!!! Re: Spoonman Re: Spoonman sorry Re: Spoonman Re: moshing , personal space, etc...... going to the Nyc saturday show South Dakota Chicago Re: Moshing &She'll never get out of here alive... spoonman Re: Spoonman Happy Gardenween! spoonman #somms Re: spoonman zippy and his vast army of pinheads to open for soundgarden! RE: Moshing shirt and stuff Re: zippy and his vast army of pinheads to open for soundgarden! Monster Mosh Re: zippy and his vast army of pinheads to open for soundgarden! Re: Johnny Cash/Rusty Cage Re: zippy and his vast army of pinheads to open for soundgarden! Johnny Cash/Rusty Cage screwy mail Soundgarden in Oz SG in OZ Re: spoonman ------------------------------------------------------------ From: clockwork Subject: *BACKSTAGE PASS* Hey, does anyone here have a backstage pass for the SG show in Chicago? If so please email me! Thanks! I'm doing a little project for my relatives... CLOCKWORK@SISNA.COM ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wrecker" <9551219@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Subject: MOTORVISION Just the other day I remember reading a message from someone looking for a copy of Motorvision. Anyway, I have the said tape in my possession. I'll be interested in any offers? Cheers and beers, Andrew C Even flow thoughts arrive like butterflies, Oh he don't know, so he chases them awayiayay!! ------------------------------ From: "Cornelison, Jene" Subject: hello Hello. I'm new here. I love Soundgarden. I have been a fan for about 3 or 4 years now. I saw them for the first time this summer at Lolla. They were great and I would love to see them again soon, but unfortunately I'm not able to go to the concert in Chicago in nov. but maybe they'll be around sometime soon again. I think that Louder than Love is my favorite CD, but I love them all including their new ones. Well Happy Halloween everyone! Jenelle Cornelison ------------------------------ From: Trac-Mat Limited In reference to the moshing question, I personally have never been injured in one, I still get right up close to the stage ,hold my ground and enjoy the show. If you know there's going to be moshing and you a scarety-cat then too bad and stear clear 'cause some of us don't want to hear your whining once you're in the middle of it. - -so I'm not the only one getting past mail sent to me two or three times.What's with that? Renee ------------------------------ From: "Tocco, Johnna" <0022371@gpn.gp.k12.mi.us> Subject: Re: MOSHING I would just like to share my views on moshing at concerts. I have been to many concerts and most of them I spent all my time in the front. I've experienced the mosh pit many times and I'd have to say that it's not so bad just as long as the people in there are willing to help you out if you need it. Now this is comming from a 16 year old small girl and I enjoy being up close to the performers. Crowd surfing is another one of my favorites. And maybe becuz I'm such a small girl, people treat me differently, I don't know, cuz I've never been injured at a concert. So I guess it's different for everyone. See ya Johnna ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: moshing.. you people are wrong well, i've been to a shitload of concerts. And if it is general admission, i get as close as i can. Moshing. Moshing, in my opinion is not good. But I don't think its so bad. I know there are concerts i have been to where the "pit" gets totally out of hand, but i have been to other concerts where there was wave moshing, which is much better in my opinion. Here comes the flame material!!! I would much rather have people moshing than fucking crowd surfing. Its easier to enjoy a concert and keep an eye on the pit, than to try to watch out for idiotic surfers swinging limbs every where. I've never been hurt in a pit, but i've been kicked in the head lots of times. And then there is the issue that Renee brought up. Girls crowdsurfing. I've seen girls her age (16) try to surf. They end up getting thrown around like toy dolls. They don't surf. They fly thru the air until they land on someone. I really don't understand how anyone can enjoy the music if they are worried about not hitting their head on the ground... So, if you ever see me at a concert, and want me to twirl you around on top of the crowd, i';ll grab something and jerk you down, or if you are close enough, sling you into the security guys. thank you, Jeremy - -- Jeremy Crocker, j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "So long. We wish you well. You told us how you weren't afraid to die. Well then, so long. Don't cry. Or feel too down. Not all martyrs see divinity. But at least you tried." - "eulogy", TOOL ------------------------------ From: Paul_Faraguna@dbna.com (Paul Faraguna) Subject: Happy Halloween!!! Happy Halloween everybody! I realized this morning that we have all missed the boat; since we apparently neglected to send the boys from SG an appropriate Halloween message or candy or whatever. Anyway, the holiday season is upon us and perhaps we should discuss some appropriate Thanksgiving/Christmas message or gift or whatever. I have no idea how to accomplish this or if its even possible. Just thought I'd throw the subject out for discussion. Paul "Get ready little lady. Hell is coming to breakfast." -Chief Lone Wati ------------------------------ From: atnadzri@vax1.tristate.edu Subject: CHI-CA-GO!!! Hi all..it's been ages since i got the digest...thanks to Seth for sortin it out To Eliza..sorryy..but i've only recived the news..anyway.. HAPPY BELATED 28th BIRTHDAY TO YOU!!! Kathie... I'm breathless..what can i say...thanks for makin my dream(and the dreams of the other SOMMSTERS) a reality. KATHIE RULESSSS!!!! Favourite SG cover song? Can Hey Baby be included?I love that song....even though u could say it's by TOTD/MACC No cameras!!?? U guys..do u think it's safe for me to sneak in a small , disposable camera? Help!!!!! Now ..about the MOSHING issue.... yesterday...i went to Smashing Pumpkins show.All i could say was.. there wasnt much body surfing goin around..except that people who were surfed out from the pit.i got a few bruises from people kicking everyone around them..and it suxxx!!!Moshing used to be graet a while ago..but lately.. people doest seem to care what's happening to their neigbour.they just get theirkicks by hitting each other.For God Sake's..i go to a show to watch band's play great music..not to get some motherf**kers boots or legs on my face! It's much more OK to jump around to the music.I dont know what to expect from a SG show..coz i've never been to one.But..i seriously hope that the crowd wont destroy my chnce to see a great band in action.Sorry for the outburst..it's just that i'm hurting all over. Ok, guys...be prepared to Blow Up Chicago!!! Andri 10 days and counting.... ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Re:Why is Cris being tortured? Stephanie Valahovic wrote: > Does anyone have any ideas on why > Chris uses the symoblism of being persecuted? If you have seen > the video or looked at the clips, what is your interpretation > of Chris' in the chair watching himself and his band on TV, > and at the same time being tortured in a business suite? > I haven't seen the video or stills of BUTOW, but I know what you mean about Chris' lyrics, and I was glad to see your post. I've mentioned several times that I see alot of frustration with the music business in Chris' music. I think he feels that his creativity has been somewhat stifled by the business, and I would say he would see this as painful, or "torture". I think thats where the imagery comes from. I wish I could write something more witty, but right now I'm half ODing on cold medicine and can barely think straight. Kathie ------------------------------ Subject: Spoonman From: scissorman@juno.com (Stephen A Cooper) Which SG album is Spoonman on? - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Close your eyes and bow your head I need a little sympathy 'cause fear is strong and love's for everyone who isn't me" - -Soundgarden - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Subject: Attention Knights Of The Soundtable!!! From: Soundgarden [this is from the official SG mailing list, but just in case all of you aren't subbed to it, here it is... -seth] SOUNDGARDEN 1996 fall tour SOUNDGARDEN IS COMING TO A VENUE NEAR YOU, AND IF YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO GET TICKETS, WE'RE OFFERING YOU A CHANCE TO DRY YOUR EYES, PICK YOURSELF UP OFF THE SIDEWALK, AND TURN YOUR LUCK AROUND. YOU KNOW THE OLD SAYING THAT THE BEST THINGS IN LIFE ARE FREE? WELL THEY'RE NOT. SO EVEN THOUGH WE CAN'T GET YOU INTO THE SHOW FOR FREE, WE DO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE TRULY VALUE YOUR MEMBERSHIP IN THE KNIGHTS OF THE SOUNDTABLE (the big time fan club), AND WE WANT TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUY A COUPLE OF TICKETS. A LIMITED NUMBER OF TICKETS WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR KOTS FANCLUB MEMBERS ONLY TO PURCHASE AT EACH VENUE. TICKETS WILL NOT EXCEED $20.00 DOLLARS PER TICKET AND ARE LIMITED TO 2 PER PERSON. THIS OFFER IS ONLY AVAILABLE TO CURRENT, DUES PAYING, KNIGHTS OF THE SOUNDTABLE FAN CLUB MEMBERS . BUT YOU MUST RESPOND BY THE RSVP DEADLINE YOU CAN RESPOND BY MAIL, EMAIL, OR TELEPHONE TO OUR OFFICE IN SEATTLE BY THE RSVP DEADLINE FOR THE SHOW YOU WISH TO ATTEND. RSVP DEADLINES AND OUR CONTACT INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND AT THE END OF THIS MESSAGE. IF YOU RESPOND BY THE DEADLINE, YOUR NAME WILL BE PUT ON A LIST AT THE BOX OFFICE WINDOW AT THE VENUE. WE WILL THEN CALL OR E-MAIL YOU TO CONFIRM YOUR NAME IS ON THE LIST, SO BE SURE TO INCLUDE YOUR ADDRESS, PHONE NUMBER, AND EMAIL ADDRESS WHEN YOU RESPOND. THE TICKETS WILL BE AVAILABLE ONLY ON THE DAY OF THE SHOW FROM THE TIME THE BOX OFFICE OPENS UNTIL ONE HOUR AFTER THE DOORS HAVE OPENED. TO PICK UP THE TICKETS,YOU'LL NEED TO GO IN PERSON TO THE WILL-CALL WINDOW ON THE DAY OF THE SHOW WITH A PICTURE ID. SALES ARE CASH ONLY. THE TICKETS ARE FIRST COME FIRST SERVE SO GET THERE EARLY OR THEY MAY BE RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC. 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BOX 61275 SEATTLE WA 98121 OR PHONE US MON-FRI 10:00 am - 5:00 pm PST @ 206-623-2941 AND SPECIFY THAT YOU ARE PHONING ABOUT THE SOUNDGARDEN TICKET OFFER ------------------------------ From: "Joseph A. Burnett" Subject: HERE'S THE CONCLUSION...... Here is the answer, more or less, to your little "moshing" dilemma....."moshing" is the most played out phrase or action since the fucking MACARENA.....the media makes enough people believe that doing it is what's cool and "in", and the next thing you know, there's a bunch of first time concert goers trying to think they're fitting in......moshing, the stupid act of slamming into people, is a legitamate way to act at a concert......like PANTERA, MARILYN MANSON, or something of the sort.....you don't see people doing the running man at a country show, do you? or breakdancing at a pearl jam concert, do you? there are musical genres that envolk a certain method of dancing at a concert.....personally, i think ska dancing is the most positive way to act at a fast paced show, for people ska dancing in a circle don't slam into each other........they dance. and there is a beat to music, which moshing does not inhibit. I will be dancing, ska-style, that is, to ty cobb, and rusty cage, but i'll be on the rail chillin' or smokiing during black hole sun.....get my drift? so moshing isn't stupid, the football players and 12 year olds who do it at a soundgarden show are.........GO SQUARE DANCE AT A DESCENDENTS CONCERT OR SOMETHING...cause you people got it all mixed up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111 The one and only, BIg JOe - --------O But it all makes such Sense to me i need room to breathe I work for the goals that i set Wasted time it weighs on my mind You can bet I can't wait one minute more - -----CIV ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: Re: Happy Halloween!!! Paul Faraguna wrote: > > > Happy Halloween everybody! > > I realized this morning that we have all missed the boat; since we > apparently neglected to send the boys from SG an appropriate Halloween > message or candy or whatever. Anyway, the holiday season is upon us Everybody go home and put on 'Toy Box' and turn it up *loud*. This is a great Halloween song in the sense that it's so creepily rockin'!!! Later, Taylor ------------------------------ From: estevez Subject: Re: Spoonman On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, Stephen A Cooper wrote: > Which SG album is Spoonman on? > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Close your eyes and bow your head I need a little sympathy > 'cause fear is strong and love's for everyone who isn't me" > -Soundgarden > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Is this some kind of joke. Do you honestly not know that Spoonman is off of Superunknown. Did you ask this question just to see what kind of response you would get. If this question was asked honestly, because you are a new listener to Soundgarden then just disregard all that I just said. ------------------------------ From: "Tocco, Johnna" <0022371@gpn.gp.k12.mi.us> Subject: Re: Spoonman > To: somms@MIT.EDU > Subject: Spoonman > From: scissorman@juno.com (Stephen A Cooper) > Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:40:29 EST > Which SG album is Spoonman on? > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Close your eyes and bow your head I need a little sympathy > 'cause fear is strong and love's for everyone who isn't me" > -Soundgarden > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Hello, duh. If your on the soundgarden mailing list then you should know that spoonman is on Superunknown!! It sounds to me like you just recently got in to soundgarden becuz you wrote the lyrics to Burden in my Hand. So get with it and listen to all the good old cds of soundgarden! Peace johnna ------------------------------ From: "Burris, Benjamin CDT " Subject: sorry [Mr. Burris sent a chain letter to the list yesterday... -seth] Sommsters, Sorry about the distro, very bad judgement upon my part. It won't happen again. Anyways, it was only one little thing more to delete. Let me tell a story. A person goes to West Point. This person loves soundgarden and soundgarden and all other great bands are suddenly taken away. You ask yourself why? Well its because West Point sucks. How can a school take away an art. Do you agree with me that music is an art? Here, they believe that it is a privelege. Many people get conned into things, but nothing this big; this being an education. An education where you are told what to do and when to do it. Its not college, its a prison. I thought. . .hmmmm.. .a full-ride to one of the best colleges in the US. That is definately not true. True, it is free, but my freedom has been taken, that is wrong. I would go home, but there are problems such as: no car (because i totaled it before I left), no real plan for reinstating myself into the real world. You are probably saying to yourself, why is this guy telling us this shit? I am telling it to you to let you know that the government is definately not what it seems to be. Music is an art, and the government has violated that. I know that you, being fellow soundgarden enthusiasts can agree with me. "Light a roman candle and hold it in your hand"--4th of July bj ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Spoonman Hello Stephen, welcome to SOMMS. "Spoonman" is found on the album "Superunknown", which is the record that came out before their latest one, "Down on the Upside". do you have web access? if you do, seth's web site (the web site where you subbed to this list) is a great resource to answer most of your questions about soundgarden. if you can't find the answer there, or don't have web access, there are some people on this list who will be glad to answer your questions. - --caryn [if it's a troll, the troll will only enjoy your outraged responses. if it's a legitimate question, why not answer it? why make someone feel like shit for not knowing?] At 02:55 PM 10/31/96 -0800, Cornell wrote: >You're joking right? >RIGHT???? > > >Stephen A Cooper wrote: >> >> Which SG album is Spoonman on? >> >> - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------- >> "Close your eyes and bow your head I need a little sympathy >> 'cause fear is strong and love's for everyone who isn't me" >> -Soundgarden >> - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ From: surfpunk@walrus.com Subject: Re: moshing , personal space, etc...... going to the Nyc saturday show I want to express some of my thoughts on moshing or more so about the modern ie: 1988-1996 concert atmosphere Soundgarden included. I'm going to see Soundgarden on this tour and as much as I am looking forward to it I'm also dreading it . Loud intense and often angry rock music can draw loud and angry people mostly yong men who as I see it feel justified in there actions at these concerts by the music and some of the lyrics. Now while I feel a lot intense emotion: anger and transcendance in SG music I dont want to hurt anybody or myself and yet at times I want to just let go into the wave of the music. Thats what it's for for me to just move into it . But is that even possible in the present day 1996 in the presense of others especiallly others you don't know? I have wanted to believe that a communal experience could be that joyful. I believe that in part that is the mission of the musician on stage to lead in a kind of ritual experience of this magnitude. But as I have said is it possible now. I believe that's what moshing is and has attempted to do capture or recapture that communal letting go of " personnal space " in the desire to become one I mean why else go to a concert anyway? But I went to Lollapolooza this summer and I was in the moshpit at first for Rancid and by the time Soundgarden came on wanted no part of what the moshpit actually has become an almost complete acting out of uncouncious and not so unconscious rage at the self and others in some "social darwinian" mode of which I try to get away from when I go to concerts. When someone anyone speaks of "don't go in the pit if you can't take it " it speaks loads about the person who said it and the culture as a whole. That only the strong or (should I say powerful) and by that I mean those capible and desirous to use both physical and mental intimidation can get what they want in this world which in the context of this experience means physical intimidation which leaves out anybody who really can't or more importantly doesn't want to have anything to do with this acting out but has no option if they want to get close to the stage. So now because of this there is a parental desire to end moshing ie: spontaneous emotional expression because "We" can't control? ourselves. The contradictions are pretty obvious when lack of control is the desire acted out with out much of and consciouness of itself though. Very sad indeed . Well I dream of a time when we can get together men and women big and small physically strong and not physically strong and share a concert experience with spontaneous emotional expression that can be both safe and ecstaticly joyful. I am going to see Soundgarden in NYC at Roseland on Saturday if you want to meet or whatever before during or after the show send me so email before the show . Later Surfpunk@walrus.com ------------------------------ From: "Paul" Subject: South Dakota South Dakota? Where did someone find out about this? Paul ------------------------------ From: CTTimber@aol.com Subject: Chicago I'm from Kansas City and am going to the show in Chicago, is anyone else going? ------------------------------ From: danabt@ix.netcom.com (Dana Born-Thomsen) Subject: Re: Moshing &She'll never get out of here alive... It was good to hear from someone (Anthony) who took the other side of the coin and defended moshing. I'm not saying I agree, but at least he did so in a respectful and thoughful way, unlike some other's Ive seen on the web. As Blind dog and endless nameless said it's more a matter of respect. When you hear some idiot saying "yeah!! let's go down there and stomp on some of them!!" (yes, I was at San Jose Lolla too and that's where I heard this b.s.) it just reflects the stupidity of what some (not all!!) of the pro-moshers/crowd surfers feel and act upon. I would love to see SG up close some day but I know I never will because of these few imbeciles. It's not worth a concussion or bruised body. At sixteen I also fought for my place up front at a Who concert and that was one of the most grueling but worthwhile experiences of my life. I spent the night before in front of the L.A. coliseum and when the gates opened I ran and plopped myself down front row. I maintained second row position for most of the show only because of the kindness and respect of the others around me. Of course this was before moshing and crowd surfing but it was still body to body contact (for a good part of the show my feet never touched the ground) and my friend and I were the only two girls in the first five rows. It was scary, but these guys who were much older, bigger, and stronger never once thought about pushing us out, trampling on us, etc. Quite the opposite, if you fell, they helped you up. Ideally (well, in my little mind anyway!) the mosh pits could move towards the sides or a way back from the stage so the people who really want to SEE the band (how much of the show do you really see while you're moshing??) could get near the front, dance around and watch the band. (Not everyone, who doesn't mosh, sits in their seat like a zombie!) Anthony, hope to see you moshing at Henry J. Kaiser on December 5th, and don't be surprised if you see some 30 year old woman, wearing her Dena-made-SOMMS-t-shirt, up in the stands and acting the fool! Dana ------------------------------ From: CAMPBELLCG@bvu.edu Subject: spoonman Thank you Caryn for being nice. What was with that other guy? biff ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: Re: Spoonman You're joking right? RIGHT???? Stephen A Cooper wrote: > > Which SG album is Spoonman on? > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Close your eyes and bow your head I need a little sympathy > 'cause fear is strong and love's for everyone who isn't me" > -Soundgarden > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: Happy Gardenween! Hey guys, happy halloween. I was a Evil Moon Goddess at school, but when 4 other guys and I went out trick or treating, I was none other than Susan Silver. Funny, 4 of my friends where the boys of soundgarden. Including my boyfriend who was Chris, because he's a spitting image of him...no kidding. Anyway, I fill my face with candy when I say this, but I think Soundgarden is one of the best halloween bands. Did you ever notice how in most of their pictures, they have some orange to black tint? On the subject of an unplugged, I think that I would rather watch the unplugged than see another video....don't you. I didn't catch the BUTOW vid, 'cause I woke up too late, but they better show it on superrock soon, or I'll just go crazy. I want to go to Seattle too. Ok, well, don't overindulge in Soundgarden(ya right) about 2 more weeks NYC SOMMSters!!!!! The original preety noose ------------------------------ From: ADDC Subject: spoonman Hi everyone. Nice to see that the wacky technical glitches of somms are over. Just wanted to say that I am really happy to see all of the posts from the new people to somms. Keep 'em coming and if any of you have any questions, the answers can be found at Seths Soundgarden site, the one from which you all subscribed from...or if you can't find them there, ask here. I have a question. In "Spoonman", who sings the lines "All my friends are brown and red..Beat the rythmn with their bones"..etc. I *should* know this one but for the life of me, I can't come up with an answer. It is Matt right? Another question..About this Dark Load thing, who are the other members of it? Thanks. Vincent ------------------------------ From: ADDC Subject: #somms Just wanted to say a very belated hi to all the people I saw on #somms about a week ago. I say a lot, but there was actually about 4 or 5 of us there. Come on folks...we have about 600+ subscribers to somms and we can only get a small number of people from here on irc? To all the new people who might not be clear on this..when you log on irc go to any *undernet* server and then get into #somms and you are set. Later. vincent ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: spoonman At 05:14 PM 10/31/96 -0600, ADDC wrote: >I have a question. In "Spoonman", who sings the lines "All my friends are >brown and red..Beat the rythmn with their bones"..etc. I *should* know >this one but for the life of me, I can't come up with an answer. It is >Matt right? if I'm not mistaken, it's actually Ben. if you go see them live, look how they bring out a mikestand for ben to sing those lines. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: zippy and his vast army of pinheads to open for soundgarden! On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, ADDC wrote: disregard the subject line, btw. just a little halloween humour. you'll have to grin and bear it, I guess :) > I have a question. In "Spoonman", who sings the lines "All my friends are > brown and red..Beat the rythmn with their bones"..etc. I *should* know > this one but for the life of me, I can't come up with an answer. It is > Matt right? Another question..About this Dark Load thing, who are the other it is, in fact, ben singing through some weird effect (no flames here, caryn). I'm not sure why it isn't matt, since he used to do almost all of the backup singing. maybe it is simply a reflection of ben's larger role in the song-writing process (more songs, vocals on 'half', playing guitar on an unkind, etc.) did someone report recently that at lolla ben sang the line "happy birthday kim" during one of the parts? my other question is: why does jeff ament get credit for the title of 'spoonman' in the liner to superunk? wasn't artis already called the spoonman? maybe it's just a case of what came first, the chicken or the egg, but I'd like to iron it out for the next addition to the faq. speaking of the faq, I'm sad to report that the full text version will not be out in the next few days. I wanted to get it up on sgi.net at the start of this month so those people who wanted to print it could do so, but uni work has been breathing down my neck like a whip-cracking demon (is there someone named seth here?). nevertheless, I will make sure that it is part of v1.1, which all things considered should come out on or about november 15. in other ramblings, it appears that all my dreams have come true. the big news is that soundgarden are yet again making their way down to australia's sunny shores, and I will be waiting in line a number of hours before the tickets go on sale here in brisbane. hopefully more dates will be announced soon, and I'm crossing my fingers that the band does more than the big day out date here in queensland. a show at festival hall would suit me perfectly, but I think I'll be going to any show they announce in my area, even if it is the stinky bdo festival (omit the 'd' from the acronym and what do you get?). to those australian who are interested, the line up (which till this point sucked in my estimation) may now include soundgarden, and may also include tool and patti smith in the coming weeks. thank you to mandy for all your information and cheery tidings. it makes those three essays due on monday a little easier to bear. finally, to those of you in the seattle area who *aren't* going to the hater show tonight (and if you aren't, why the hell aren't you?), I read this morning that the presidents of the usa may be playing at moe's mo'roc'n cafe tonight under the guise of the wallobees. the headliners are 80 proof, a covers band that jason finn sometimes plays with, so maybe the rumour is true. I've heard most of the stuff from their upcoming album (II), and it is great; look for it to be previewed tonight. if they play, of course ;) sounds like seattle is the place to be for all around coolness and spookiness on halloween. now if only soundgarden were a *brisbane* band... ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: COCHRAN_BONNIE/SBCTC@ctc.ctc.edu Subject: RE: Moshing AMMENDOZA@SCUACC.SCU.EDU wrote: i have been hearing people say, and two, mosh pits are just a part of all concerts now a days with little anyone can do about it. the music of the nineties is so energetic that concert goers need a way to release this adrenaline flow; hence the mosh pit. i am really getting tired of complainers!! i have been to concerts before where everybody stood around just listening to the music and it was dull. i could just as easily listen to the CD in my room. the reason i go to concerts is for the energy live performances create. - -------------------------------------------------- I have a problem with this and a lot of other comments in support of moshing. If it is a so-called release to the energy of the music, then why do we see heavy, severe injury causing moshing going on when NO FUCKING BAND OR LIVE MUSIC IS BEING PLAYED? Is the energy and adrenaline so high that this must continue NON-STOP between bands? Tell me why someone should have to go away and sit down where there isn't even a show to be seen?????? I'm totally fed up with moshing and I am a 34 year old female who still gets crushed but can take it like any man! No one has the right to tell me to go sit in the back if I can't take getting beat up just to see my favorite band. Moshers aren't watching *anything*, so I am suggesting you go mosh in the back (if you must) where you can still release your energy to the music (if that's what you're calling it) since it's loud everywhere and leave the front view to those of us who are there to appreciate the music, the band and the show. My two cents for the moment... Bonnie ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: shirt and stuff I just got my shirt today. Looks great! And it arrived BEFORE Nothingman's! Unbelievable! Thanks Dena. So am I the only one who thinks Karaoke is an amazing song? I can't believe it wasn't on the new album. I think it would have fit right in. In contrast, Bleed Together hasn't completely grown on me yet. For those who have seen the video for Blow up, isn't it amazing? I think we have another Black Hole Sun here... Also, I know of at least 2 people who have downloaded the 17MB JCP video off Seth's page. Has anybody else? If you have a 28.8, and you do it at the right time, it only takes about 2 1/2 hours, but if you have a 14.4, your're looking at 5 hours. Any opinions on it? It is, in my opinion, probably the best video of all time. It is visually, and sonically of course, stunning. The mpeg on Seth's site is of pretty good quality. (although I am biased, since I encoded it). Actually, I would appreciate any feedback any of the mpeg's on Seth's site. I am not an expert on mpeg, by any stretch. Any advice or opinions would be cool. Thanks, Geoff ------------------------------ From: Sachin Trivedi Subject: Re: zippy and his vast army of pinheads to open for soundgarden! Hey there, I'm not sure about this, but I Thought I heard somewhere that Spoonman is one of the fake song titles that Jeff Ament made up for the Singles movie. Just like Seasons. Anyway, can someone verify that? I think that's the story. Sachin > sang the line "happy birthday kim" during one of the parts? my other > question is: why does jeff ament get credit for the title of 'spoonman' in > the liner to superunk? wasn't artis already called the spoonman? maybe > it's just a case of what came first, the chicken or the egg, but I'd like > to iron it out for the next addition to the faq. ------------------------------ From: Toni M Raork Subject: Monster Mosh > Moshers aren't watching *anything*, so I am >suggesting you go mosh in the back (if you must) where you can still >release your energy to the music (if that's what you're calling it) >since it's loud everywhere and leave the front view to those of us who >are there to appreciate the music, the band and the show. > >My two cents for the moment... > >Bonnie > Makes perfect sense to me!!! Sitting in a balcony to the side and above a pit I observed exactly what you are saying ,Bonnie. The people who were doing the slamming,hurling themselves and over all being jerks weren't paying a bit of attention to the band. And the other people could only pay half attention because for their own safety they had to watch out for boots to the head and being knocked down. I went to a show in 1982 that was extermely crowded,hot and intense and the entire audience on the main floor moved as one it one of my favorite concerts ever. There was a bond between everyone that was the music and the way it made you want to move. But it wasn't violent, no one got hurt. And it wasn't the biggest strongest and most aggresive got control of the front of the stage like it has become. If you want to have tetosteronefest do it in the back!!! I am thinking at this moment somewhere in Seattle. Chris Cornell is driving many many miles in the opposite direction of the OK!!! toni ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: Re: zippy and his vast army of pinheads to open for soundgarden! Justin writes: >did someone report recently that at lolla ben >sang the line "happy birthday kim" during one of the parts? my other >question is: why does jeff ament get credit for the title of 'spoonman' in >the liner to superunk? It was "Happy Birthday Christopher" on Mr Cornell's birthday (although I wasn't there - just what I heard). I've heard "kick that fucker in the head" on a boot as well but generally Ben sticks to the lyrics Cornell penned. Never mind the poetic license (c: About "Spoonman": It was one the fake titles that Ament put on the Citizen Dick demos for the Singles movie. Chris recorded these songs: "Flutter Girl", "Nowhere But You" "Missing", "Spoonman" & "Seasons". blah blah blah - Add it to the FAQ! Ray (c: Ray (c: ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: Re: Johnny Cash/Rusty Cage In a message dated 96-10-31 20:34:38 EST, you write: >Has anyone heard the Johnny Cash cover of Rusty Cage? Just some info: the Cash record (which I forgot the title of, sorry) is to be released in the States this Tuesday: November 4 (c: He's hoping to beat that huge Christmas "Johnny Cash" rush there is every holiday season... -sarcasm, yes- On top of that American Recordings (Cash's label) sent out a flyer promoting his record with an ancient (circa 1960s from what it seems) photo of Mr Cash on stage, slumped over a guitar, sneering into the camera & offering the cameraman the middle finger. Rather funny to see this... especially since it was taken before the Stooges, the Pistols & the whole "giving the finger on stage is cool" bit & that he IS a country & western-style (sorta) musician! Ray (c: ------------------------------ Subject: Re: zippy and his vast army of pinheads to open for soundgarden! From: seth > speaking of the faq, I'm sad to report that the full text version > will not be out in the next few days. I wanted to get it up on sgi.net at > the start of this month so those people who wanted to print it could do > so, but uni work has been breathing down my neck like a whip-cracking > demon (is there someone named seth here?). nevertheless, I will make sure > that it is part of v1.1, which all things considered should come out on or > about november 15. on a similar note, there is no way the song of the month for november will be debuting before late today at the earliest, and probably not until tomorrow. i would have liked to have had it ready for a 12am appearance, but i have to give an hour-long presentation in class today, so i'm a bit busy trying to cram 5 potential weeks of preparation into a few hours' time. :) seth ------------------------------ From: "Helsley, Scott" Subject: Johnny Cash/Rusty Cage Has anyone heard the Johnny Cash cover of Rusty Cage? A radio station here in Buffalo played them both back to back for a comparison. I have got to say the Johnny Cash version blows. Not that I have anything against Johnny Cash, but it just doesn't work. He should have covered something else like Fell on Black Days, that might work. What do you think? Scott ------------------------------ From: Stella Rogers Subject: screwy mail Um..is the MIT mail server still going bezerk? I'm getting messages from earlier today bounced back into my box. Anyways...I was hoping eMpTV would play BUtOW at midnite. But to my dismay its a Kiss Unplugged show. GOD I'm dying to see this video already!! Argh.. ------------------------------ From: Mandy Crook Subject: Soundgarden in Oz Hi guys, just had to tell you that Im getting my first SG tickets for Australia today...YAY! So far they have only announced Newcastle 29 January 1997, and tickets go on sale on Monday. This at first appears extremely bizzare, but my friend at Ticketek assures me that this is how its usually done. Other dates will follow.... hopefully the Big Day Out. Such a long time to wait.................... Cheers Mandy ------------------------------ From: Mandy Crook Subject: SG in OZ Hi again guys, Oops, sorry, I made a mistake in my last email, I just rang Ticketek and the tickets for Newcastle actually go on sale next Friday 9.00am that the 8 November. Mandy ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: Re: spoonman caryn rose wrote: > > At 05:14 PM 10/31/96 -0600, ADDC wrote: > > >I have a question. In "Spoonman", who sings the lines "All my friends are > >brown and red..Beat the rythmn with their bones"..etc. I *should* know > >this one but for the life of me, I can't come up with an answer. It is > >Matt right? > > if I'm not mistaken, it's actually Ben. if you go see them live, look how > they bring out a mikestand for ben to sing those lines. > > You are correct. It's Ben that sings those lines. In a live setting, Ben has also been known to beat the outta the mic stand if it's not working during that song. um, like, um...when is the new SG vid premiering tommorrow? (EST of course) 1000 points of light, Steve - - "...but he made it out...with a bullet in his back" ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 291] ****************************************