From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 31 Dec 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 03:45:09 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 31 Dec 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: The question is... Woohoo!! hello world, I'm here now Hello SG on Dateline?! Re: mainstreaming Hi Come and get it!!! No SG stuff for xmas:( soundgarden Soundgarden in Italy sg hello boys and girls! Happy happy!! Joy joy!! Outshined promo various oddities sunny day...chasing the clouds away..:) Re: Top Ten Somms Events RE: Open for business....can I be the first one???? Smells like Soundgarden a weird cover Giving away the ending bootlegs Soundgarden Some boring crap =) ------------------------------------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: The question is... Now that we are back in business, what do we do with the FUCKER that put us out of commission? I have a few gruesome ideas. But we have to find him first.... The List Thug, SOMMS Sheriff, KTMS Founder, and all around crazy guy. Aaron ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Woohoo!! I was going through withdrawls without my SOMMS fix!! Guess what kiddies? I found Ultramega Unknown the other day!! Go me! And (thanks to the God known as Lance) I also got BOTH of the BUTOW singles!! The remix of Dusty is groovy. And on UMOK Unknown... the version of "New Damage" with Brian Mays is *excellent*! I've never heard a song that showcases Chris' voice so damn well!! Anyway, I just wanted to say hello to everyone... I missed y'all! Shroomy "Oh THERE you are, Shroom! I've been looking all over for you! I have these naked pictures of myself that I've been wanting to give you. Tell me what you think of them. I personally like the ones that were taken in the shower. But if they don't meet with your approval, I'll let you take some new ones. Oh, and do you think that Seth will post them to the unofficial page? I asked Susan to put them on the official, but she threw me out of the house. I've been staying at Matt's since then, so he and I have become especially... close. Ummm... can he be in the new pictures? Pretty please?" ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ ^v^ Check out my webpage... ^v^ ^v^ or die a slow and painful death. =) ^v^ ^v^ http://members.aol.com/ShRooMGrLz/shroom.html ^v^ ^v^ Also take a peek at the CC is God page... ^v^ ^v^ ...and the CC pic of the day! ^v^ ^v^ Damn, I'm smooth. =) ^v^ ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ ------------------------------ From: Georgia Kennedy Subject: hello world, I'm here now To all subscribers, hi from me. I'm from Perth, Western Australia, and this is my first foray into this particular netherworld of modern technology (no, I did not receive a modem for Christmas). So since this is all new to me (at least), apologies for my naivete. So, if anyone would like to mail me, that'd be great. I'm interested in getting in touch with anyone who might like to become my "Overseas Agent", or be interested in trading stuff, since here in Australia, you're HIGHLY unlikely to pickup anything much except mainstream Australian pressings through our extremely middle of the road music stores. The only way I was able to get hold of a copy of "Alive in the Superunknown" (despite having it on order through several more reputable shops) was when my Dad went to the US for a holiday, and purchased it in a store in Houston. So, if you're interested in anything at all that I may be able to get here (mainly Australian pressings of albums and singles) and trading them for US promos, EP's, and singles (etc), get in touch. Until then, take it easy. GEORGIA. ------------------------------ From: Natalie Derojas Subject: Hello hey you guys,...whats going on?...is everybody on vacation or something?...the list is ever so quiet...im not used to it i guess..hope everyone out there is doing ok! =) lots of SG love, Natalie ------------------------------ From: AvAndrea@aol.com Subject: SG on Dateline?! Just an interesting little tidbit--last night I was watching Dateline (you know, that news show that's on NBC 6 nights a week) and they were showing a preview of an upcoming segment about alterna-somethings (?) and "My Wave" was the background music for the piece. Someone in their editing dept must know what's up:-) BTW, Lance I'm loving the B-sides more every day!! Andrea ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: Re: mainstreaming CL Miller wrote: > you can talk wind about how if a band doesn't stay true to their vision, > then they suck. but also, you can't get ahead in your job if you try to > rebel against it constantly. you will get thrown out on your ass and > will not be able to produce anything worthwhile. This is *so* true in most business... but we are talking about a business that has been built around the production and marketing of art. The essence of art is to explore new boundaries and free expression. The music industry has set boundaries for bands and their music must conform to the industry's expectations. The artists, in a sense, are slaves to the industry. > the record industry. yes it isn't fair. yes it sucks. but that's > America. Another example of America's false sense of freedom... Freedom of expression within the boundaries set by record exec's. > just because a band has become > "mainstream" or has "sold-out" is no reason to turn against them. I don't think *anyone* is turning against SG, and no-one has said that SG have "sold-out". I hope I did'nt give that impression. > sometimes a band has to do what a band has to do. Ahh! This is my point *exactly*. Bands have to do things that they would'nt normally do to make it in the "business". This inherent quality of the music business almost totally nullifies the essence of music's artistic roots and freedom of expression. However, most artists play the game and release mainstream songs to appease the record companies. In turn, they fill the rest of their albums with what they want, so maybe it's not so bad. Everyone's got to play the game. >if their is anyone out their who is in the record business and has more >to say or would like to correct me, please do so. I've been involved in producing an album for a local band as well as some of my own stuff. When I was in the studio with these guy's, we had definitive arguments with the head producer who was pressuring the band to change some of their songs in order to be more 'radio friendly'. i.e. shorten the length of the songs, remove a few profanitites, extend choruses, etc. For a band starting out, you are alomst forced to compromise your art in order to fit the business. >this is merely an attempt to bring others' logic and > my own into some sort of agreement. Good points and thanks for the discussion. ;-) Later, Taylor ------------------------------ Subject: Hi From: sweetwater6@juno.com (M R) Hi everyone, It's Mel...I'm back on the list. Some of you probably knew me; I've been on this list several times over the past year as Soundgrdn3. Anyway, just thought I'd let you all know... Mel "Oh really?"--Matt Cameron ------------------------------ From: tonerkin Subject: Come and get it!!! Nice New Year's present Seth!!! We got our list back. Thanks! Is this what is going to happen to us in June when you graduate??? I better subscribe to the Jon Bon Jovi list with DebUK so I have someone to "talk" to!! Or maybe the "people with extra holes in their body" list with DeeDee. Or "trailer trash talk" with .....BUTT we won't go into that!! Anyway, in my last minute shopping last week I went into a store that was going out of business and had everything 50% off. I found a copy of the Soundgarden CD book and New Metal Crown. So in the spirit of giving and the fine tradition of give aways on this list. I am offering these books seperately to whomever wants them. As always a random drawing please e-mail me and not the list by Janauary 6th(I'll give the students a chance to return) and the lucky winner will get one of the books. Good luck and Happy New Year to all!! Be Safe!!! toni ------------------------------ From: Slave4cc@aol.com Subject: No SG stuff for xmas:( Hello, Glad the newsletter is up and runnin again. I just wanted to tell ya Im jealous of all of you who received cool SG stuff for xmas. I didnt get no SG stuff cuz my hubby thinks im loco and so he hates SG just cuz I like it so much (husbands!!)... I got drunk Saturday nite and jammed out to SG in front of my friends and cuz I was really moshin and gettin into it, they think Im loco too :)..They just dont understand, but I know u guys do. Peace, Joy, and Happy New Year!!! Now I know why you've been takin..so bleed your hearrrrrrt out, theres no more rides for free, yea. Carol ------------------------------ From: pegmitch@swbell.net Subject: soundgarden Hi. I just got this list thingy today. If anyone wants to "talk", email me. Visit my hp at http://www.angelfire.com/ut/jesuspage(its really nothing religious). Somebands i like are Soundgarden(of course), Nirvana, Marilyn Manson, PanterA, Metallica(didn't sell out!!!), and Rage Against the Machine. I'll buy any(except Down on the Upside) SG cd's for 10 bux. Email me for further info. Blow up the outside world ------------------------------ From: "Valerio Morettini" Subject: Soundgarden in Italy Hi SOMMSters! This is the first time I write in, and I beg you to forgive me for my...uhm...ehm... shitty English (wow! this new vocabulary includes also vulgar words!).I attended SG concert in Italy and I'm looking someone that really can understand how FANTASTIC it was: so I thought I needed a pure 100% SG fan! Captain, the situation is critical. Here in my country they confuse Soundgarden with Fool's Garden, the only song they know is BHS and a little Spoonman ("cool! there are spoons in the background! What a pretty song! I'll go buy the single!"), DOTU is practically super- UNKNOWN.Therefore I was not so surprised to see only three-four thousands people in Casalecchio (where the concert took place on the 25th of September), with three guys on four wearing BHS t-shirts. That day gave a new meaning to the word "rainy": the sunny Italy had suddenly turned into England! I stood five hours in front of the gates, waiting (for the sun), no umbrellas, no shelter, clean sparks diving down, a shitty sandwich in my hands, I was just thinking it was the end when the gates opened, allowing me to pulverize the 100m record and finally getting in front of the stage.After the parenthesis of Moby and Eleven (that I didn't like too much), SG invaded the stage.Kim assumed his typical "statue- like" position and Ben, strangely, too ( the stage was REALLY REALLY REALLY small).When I heard Spoonman's main riff I found myself in heaven...Chris didn't sing the word "spoonman!" after Ben's small vocal task and let the audience do it for him."Searching.." followed, then a powerful "Let me drown"."Pretty noose" was fantastic (perhaps Chris sang it a little low, but at that moment I didn't know what would have come next...).After "Burden in my hand", Chris stopped the concert because the crowd was becoming too...intense."Hey, you are crushing people down here, you are killing people!"he said, but no one understood him."The concert will not go on until you've gone backwards!"(I think he said this).Five minutes of silence followed, with Ben sitting on an Amp smoking a cigar, Kim and Chris staring at us perfectly motionless.I thought the concert would end in a bad way like the year before, when in Reggio Emilia(near Casalecchio) Ben started arguing with the audience and threw his bass on their (dick)-heads.Fortunately we got back and the concert went on with "My wave", "Ty Cobb","An unkind","Fell on black days"(my favourite SG song ever).Then a song no one recognized(was it helter-skelter?)that dissolved in a moving "Boot camp".With no pause followed "Rusty cage","BHS"( and an audio-cassette thrown by some idiot hit him right in the head, but he went on singing like nothing had happened),"Outshined","Dusty"(I didn't like the album version because i thought it wasn't enough powerful, but I really enjoyed how they played it during the concert)."BUTOW" was the best moment,"Kickstand","Slaves & Bulldozers"(I hoped for the "Alive" intrusion but my wishes were not satisfied), "Drawing flies". After a short pause, they went back to throw us "Never the machine forever"(what the hell does it mean, if it isn't an anti-computer song? Please answer me!) that the audience didn't appreciate too much, like all the other DOTU songs).And finally "JESUS CHRIST POSE"!.I thought that Chris was going to do a bad performance on this one (after 15 songs and more than 1 hour of show).I've never been so wrong!He destroyed our ears, their amps, everything.And in the end (dunno if he has done this before, but I think so) he put his golden gibson horizontally on the microphone pole forming a cross that he lifted with one hand like a sword! .Ops..I wrote too much..But I was feeling it!Excuse me again for any mistake. I AM SO PROUD TO BE A SOUNDGARDEN FAN!. - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: pegmitch@swbell.net Subject: sg Does anyone know how old Chris is? If you'd let me know, i'd be grateful. I think Soundgarden is the best band since Nirvana. ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: hello boys and girls! hiya guys, it was lonely without you! guess what i got? the fairfax VA video boot. wow, it's really a good one. i mean, we're talking zooms in and pans around, but the guy must not really like Ben, cause you only see him a few times. but whoever it is really likes matt and chris, cause i get a birds eye view on mattster, which i didn't have at my show. so i'm happy. but chris never takes off his shirt. "heavy bummer lady..." = ) it's so good to be back! mind riot ____ and if i'm condemned let me rest on my pillow and dream of those moments so few and if i'm blessed i'll be chasing your shadow there i go...nowhere... nowhere but you... ------------------------------ From: Rebekah Henderson Subject: Happy happy!! Joy joy!! I finished watching that Soundgarden bootleg video!! I am one happy little Soundgarden camper!!! Granted, it was amateur, but under the circumstances it was done well. It was nice and long, just the way I like it. (No pun intended.) You could tell though that the cameraman was getting tired towards the end. It really started showing in Slaves & Bulldozers. My heart went out to him, but then again, so did my money!! :) Chris' vocals were exceptional in my opinion. I think this was the first show they did after the NY and MA shows were cancelled. No signs of any illness. It was also nice to see them smiling (except for Ben) and really enjoying themselves. That makes it so much more enjoyable for the fans too. After seeing this video, I'm contented in knowing that they will probably be doing this for many more years to come. This video doesn't offer any outstanding breakthrough in film making, but I definitely think it's worth the money. May Soundgarden be with you. Rebekah ------------------------------ From: gwm@starnetinc.com Subject: Outshined promo Hey, I was browsing in a record store today and I found a promo cd of Outshined. It had the studio version and like the radio edit or something. It was $3. I didn't have enough money for it, since I bought PJ's 'No Code' on vinyl, and the new Wesley Willis album. Is this promo rare? Dave Miller ********************************************* *I like to trade bootlegs. * *Check out my Pearl Jam homepage at: * *http://pwp.starnetinc.com/gwm/pearl.htm * *You can find my bootlist there * *PEARL JAM AND SOUNDGARDEN RULE! * ********************************************* ------------------------------ From: CL Miller Subject: various oddities hi there. just want to be one of the first to usher us from another soundgarden year into a new soundgarden year. (pretty soon we'll be ushering in a new soundgarden millenium ;-) "the lives we make. . .never seem to ever get us anywhere but dead."~~c. cornell ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: sunny day...chasing the clouds away..:) hey list , welcome back :) Just wanted to wish everyone a Happy Happy New Year....I will be spending mine with a fellow Sommster and a bunch of people from the Afghan Whigs and Failure mailing lists...now if i could just remember what i did for fun *before* i discovered the Net?!?!? Everyone have a SAFE and happy & see y'all (hi DD) in '97! eliza oh and P.S. anyone who is looking for something new and different to listen to, check out "Lime" from Molly McGuire (produced by Failure's Ken Andrews) - - a very cool CD...kind of an interesting mix between Tool, Failure, and someone else i cant think of right now...check it out :) **************************************** In these careless days you know Who your friends are, a saving grace A time to remember What you've taken and who You took from, it's over There's no mistaking What you give is what you get --Quicksand ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: Re: Top Ten Somms Events Polly, Eliza wrote: > > **Maliki's (attempted) takeover of #somms!!!** > Ah yes, I remember. Nice guy when he wanted to register, but his underlying dictator agenda was revealed... ;) o+< O+< Later, Taylor ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: Open for business....can I be the first one???? Seth wrote: >>Your vacation is over. :) Phew!! Well, that sure is true - for today (Monday) I returned to work. :-( >>I'm pleased to announce the grand reopening of SOMMS -- post away, folks. I'm a postin'.......with my good eye closed, of course! ;-) I know a lot of people have been waiting to read those words - Toni and Dee Dee - you can now come out of mourning!! :-) Cheers and Beers, Carolyn the Merry Fairy Oh poor, twisted me - I feast on sympathy.......Metallica ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: Smells like Soundgarden Hey List! During my break...I've been catching up on my reading...below are some excerpts from Guitar World, February 1997 (pg. 196) In the article "100 Greatest Guitarist of All Time" sits 'our' boy Kim Thayil, under the category of: "They might be giants" "When i discovered dropped-D tuning, I started experimenting and never stopped." - K. Thayil Although Kim Thayil regularly credits the Melvin's Buzz Osbourne with pioneering the use of the dropped-D tuning in rock, it is the Soundgarden guitarist who popularized the tuning and made it the signature sound of grunge. Immortalized on such Soundgarden classics as _Badmotorfinger_ and _Down on the Upside_ (1996), this simple procedure, in which the low E string is tuned down to a D, has become almost as ubiquitous in rock guitar as the power chord. Equipment: guild s-1; Peavey VTM 120, Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier Signature Song: "Rusty Cage", from Soundgarden, Badmotorfinger (A&M, 1994) Classic Albums: Badmotorfinger - ------------------------------------------------------------ I also found the "rock" horoscope for those of you with the good fortune :-) to be born between January 20 - February 18 (Aquarius) Happy Birthday Aquarians! Performances will be extra satisfying in February; your fans will devour your bad-ass attitude and lovable freakishness. Just make sure your wacky antics don't overshadow the rest of the bands's work - or alienate potential listeners. Famous Aquarius: Eddie Van Halen - -------------------------------------------------------------- And to help explain my subject header...there was an advertisement for Rockabilia...which is selling your typical rock merchandise...decals, caps, patches, shirts, hair colouring etc. Welp, for 4 dollars you can a "Hanging Air Fresheners" in a variety of scents. One of the styles was Soundgarden! Hmmm....what scent would say Soundgarden? The only choices I can think of... that say (smell) SG are... oil, blood, pine, dog, roses, money, fresh cut grass, fresh snow, fall. There is a valid reason for each one ;-) I just hope there isnt some joker in the air freshener industry that would make a 'lemon' scent SG freshener...that should be used for bands like STP and 'the Nirvana cover band', Bush and... :-) Steve Heavy Rotation: Tool, "Tainted Love", "Wearing and Tearing", Rocket to Russia, 11/06/96 and various other things I'm embarrased to find in my music collection. ------------------------------ From: psyche Subject: a weird cover Hi everyone :) it's good to be back... I'm sure my regular e-mailers are sick of hearing this by now, but I here I go anyway... People, forget about Cash.... the cover you have *got* to listen to is by this NY based female duo 'Cibo Matto'. I'm sure some of you have heard this cover before. They normally sing about food, but they also did a cover of BHS, and it's pretty interesting; not only 'cos it's sung by a female, but b/c it's in....... French :) hehehe.... well almost everything. They didn't bother translating the words 'black hole sun' (I think it's pretty untranslatable)... the funny thing is, when they sing the English part, they use this phony French accent :))) The beginning sounds exactly like 'I'm a Walrus', and when she switches to the chorus, the song changes key. I've tried to decipher the lyrics, but it's really hard, 'cos they used some kind of echo effect. Basically she sings about how beautiful the bhs is, and how wonderful it is, compared with the rain (nothing about chasing it away). There's no bass, no drums.... just a synthesizer. It's available as a b-side on their single 'Birthday Cake' But I'm trying to upload it........ (I stress *trying*) I've been battling with the damn Sound Recorder since yesterday, but all it will tape is..umm... me :) So to those who have been nagging me about a pic of myself... I can give you a charming soundclip of me swearing instead :) sabrina "You people are asking for covers..... what, you don't like any of our songs?... that's it" ~CC (you tell 'em Chris :) ------------------------------ From: age Subject: Giving away the ending I'd like to take this time to personally thank all who were responsible for the posting of the contents the Soundgarden holiday mailing. Thanks to your valiant efforts, I had everything memorized before I even opened the envelope. Thanks again! Until next time... +-------------------------------------+ | Age | | age@cybercomm.net | | "We don't have to be just sheep!" | +-------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: spierce@mpls.k12.mn.us (Sandy Pierce) Subject: bootlegs ~please, anyone who can copy bootlegs for me, it would be much appreciated. i am interested in any soundgarden bootlegs, and i can send you tapes, money, toys, or whatever you might want in return for the bootlegs. please respond to me, amanda, at spierce@mpls.k12.mn.us and not to the list cuz i can't seem find time to read it any more :( so how is everyone doing? i haven't posted in ages. my dear sister gave me a soundgarden dotu shirt for christmas, that puts my total of soundgarden shirts up to, one badmotorfinger, three SU, and one dotu, plus several i have made. soon my whole wardrobe will be covered in soundgarden logos! j/k. ~~i have a non-sg related question for any of you guitarists out there, i am looking at this beautiful acoustic-electric Alverez guitar and it's list price is $650, but this pawn shop is willing to sell it to me for $500. i don't know much about guitars, and i'm wondering if it's worth the money. ~~~o.k, another question (semi-sg related), i have been trying to design a tattoo that i plan to get around my 18th birthday next october... i want to somehow incorperate the badmotorfinger sawblade cuz it's one of my favorite designs... but i don't know what to do. i've been thinking something like having the blade be the middle of a sun (the round part) and having wavy rays coming out of it. but then again i still don't know. any suggestions are welcome. i guess i have time to think about it (10 months). o.k. goodbye for now. "eyes to sun, she lays in peace..." amanda ------------------------------ From: Tigger1025@aol.com Subject: Soundgarden Hi all. I'm new to this. I 've been on the bush mailing list and it was awesome... then all of a sudden, something happened and th ewhole mailing list got cancelled i ws so mad...well, i hope this is cool like the bush mailing list and i hope u people are a lot nicer.. A little about me: i am 15 years old, female, from a suburb in illinois near chicago. My fav bands are bush, soundgarden, everclear, sponge, and garbage! ------------------------------ From: "Crystal Smith" Subject: Some boring crap =) I think somebody posted something about Chris doesn't like Michael Jordan... correct me if i'm wrong.... & anyway my Uncle gambles at this place where Michael gambles at & i could have him kick his ass!!! ;) ...j/k that's a joke so anybody who likes Michael dont be offended.... I dont think my uncle would like 2 go2 jail anyway....=) happy 2 see the list back up....in a way it's kinda funny that that asshole subscribed SOMMS 2 a bunch of other mailing lists....but....its not funny...& if anybody finds out who this guy is i would be happy 2 subscribe him 2 every mailing list i can find =).... did every1 have a nice xmas?.... P.S. Thanks Seth 4 letting me put those pics on my page hey ShRooMGrLz i wont have 2 die a slow painful death now cause i checked out ur page!! now u will have 2 check out mine or U will have the slow painful death =) Psyche i would love 2 hear a sound bit of u cussing....=) ************************************************************ * Crystal Smith * * * * E-mail: metallicafreak@hotmail.com * * Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/7513 ************************************************************ - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 343] ****************************************