From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 9 Apr 1997 Part III Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 21:49:57 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Wednesday, 9 Apr 1997 Part III listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ ***listadmin note: The opinions continute to roll in, so here are the next 50 messages. -seth TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Where do we go from here DOH! sorry here is the rest Re: What else? NO!! NO!!! NO!!! #somms is open The end of the road : ( : ( : ( whatsoever I've feared..... SOUNDGARDEN :>( Re: Karen on the End Re: Karen on the End #somms WWHHHAATTT!!???!!??!! Re: THE BAND HAS BROKEN UP!!!!!!!!!!! Re: BAD NEWS Links... requiem for the total fucking godhead Re: SOUNDGARDEN :>( NO!!!!!! Re: Soundgarden/The Doors (long post) garden of sounds Karen on the End i am an idiot e: sg & you-know-what The day the music died.... Re: BAD NEWS Re: Temple Of The Dog Re: Karen on the End NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! denial This SUCKS!!!! THE FOOLS!!!! ... What Addicted To Noise says painted tears across my eyes/RS article Goodbye to Soundgarden?? No, this isn't happpening. No, this isn't happeneing a few words......... No..it cant be happening..... Re: This SUCKS!!!! THE FOOLS!!!! don't worry one more thought.......... FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!! NO!!! "Would you cry for me?" Re: Bleed your heart out Re: What else? you guess I don't understand... ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Jason S. Lewis" Subject: Where do we go from here What happens next? What of the official and UnOfficial sites? What of Knights of the soundtable? If the UOSGHP goes then will SOMMS be gone for good too? The last thing I want right now is too sound selfish... please forgive me of thinking of money at a time like this, but a week ago I sent in my 12 bucks to Knights of the Sound table and I am unsure as to what will become of that check. Again, I'm very sorry for thinking of myself, because I know It won't be easy for some as it was for me to realize that everyone is human. If it were me its hard to say f I would have not chosen to just fuck Ben Shepherd and call it quits all together. ------------------------------ From: "Nicolas" Subject: Hi all, My question isn't really important but I'm wondering something : is it me or the guitare solo in "Holy water" from BMF is played BACKWARD ??? I'd like to know...thanks to the ones who will answer and "hi" to the other ones... Nicolas. ------------------------------ From: billsbar@umich.edu (Dan Hearsch) Subject: DOH! now all we have to look forward to is the soundgarden box set just add me up to the hot rod death toll ------------------------------ From: SOMMStress@aol.com Subject: sorry here is the rest so we will allways have their music. And remember that when your blue turn on Their music and live from your heart. Im sorry if this is sounding gay. I know its depressing as hell ( im only 13 and have liked them since i was 6) but Soundgarden's music will allways live and remember to keep them alive allways. They are the only band who cares about makeing music ( and especially money) and that didn't care about the direction of music but their own music. They are the best band ever. Soundgarden will allways live on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is my mind riot Sommstress ------------------------------ From: GRTCHNMARA@aol.com Subject: Re: What else? In a message dated 97-04-09 14:40:15 EDT, you write: << Can't we beseech them as fans, can't anything turn this shit around? >> Yes we can we've got to. We've got to do something. Lets get real this is Soundgarden one of the last great Seattle bands, can we really let them just disappear? We've got to do something. They're Soundgarden. ------------------------------ From: Josh Verley Subject: NO!! NO!!! NO!!! This really sucks! I can't believe that they are calling it quits! Ya know I never really started listening to Soundgardens music until about 3 months ago. Just my luck! Ohhh well, I guess I will have to find a new band to love, and adore. Green Day? Bush? Who knows. Or maybe they arn't really quitting. This could be a lie or a mistake! I sure hope it is! - -Josh ------------------------------ From: gene Subject: #somms is open IRC Chicago.IL.US.Undernet.org #somms is open. - -- gene ------------------------------ From: FrkShow911@aol.com Subject: The end of the road : ( : ( : ( Dismay, disbelief, shock, I could go on and on about how I feel about this little "breakup"--- I just about shitted my pants when a couple white letters flashed acrossed an MTV screen about 5 minurtes ago...I'll never forget this day........geez, you know, this really sucks!!!! ---Al ------------------------------ From: al586556@mail.mty.itesm.mx (Juan Pablo Gutiirrez) Subject: whatsoever I've feared..... Hi all, I can't describe what I feel right now. In front of the computer all my thoughts are mixed.I hardly post to the list but today news of Soundgarden breaking up is the worst thing I can think right now, and I need to share with you all my feelings, cause here in Monterrey, Mexico nobody can understand the importance of this. I will never forget this day. In school meanwhile I work in a Final paper I took a break to check Seth's page. The astounding news was there "It's Over". I can't breath, in the middle of a room with more than a 100 computers and so students, one of the most important things in my life is over. The distance of twenty minutes from school to my house is so painful.I get in my car take the first Soundgarden tape I see. Superunknown. In my head confusion I just want to get out of there. The first song Let me Drown blast from the back of my head to my feet, I drive so fast feeling so angry with no one in particular. Then is My Wave I cool of a little but I need to get home. Then is Fell On Black Days, so emotional I literally have to pull of the road to breath. A little tear runs trought my eye, I have not cry in three years since my grandfather die. The song ends and I turn off the stereo. Drive silently to home. Right now I feel more relaxed and peaceful but the empty is still there. Many of you have a favorite band beside Soundgarden I don't. Simply, there is no other band to me that could replace them. Reading the digests and hearing that there are more fans like my around the world just make me feel I belong. Right now i remember Nov. 28 Houston, my only Soundgarden concert. That memory will remain forever and getting Matt and Kim autographs and the guitar pick Shroom and I get are a constant reminder of that night. From this point the only thing left is to wish all members of Soundgarden the best luck and wait for more records from them; but it will never be the same. I can't imagine Chris singing without Matt behind in the drums or Kim writing songs for other singer, etc. I hope Hater continues too. Also thanks for all the wonderful music you wrote definitely it change my life.And to you all sommsters around the world who open my eyes to Soundgarden songs that otherwise I will never like. I wonder what would happen to the list and the page, what will be the future of us as a community. Today is a turning point, we no longer will heard new music from this four guys together again.Songs like Christy and Cleaning my Gun will be left an may never see the light. Writing all this has been really good,Now I plan to take all my cd's and heard from Screaming Life to DOTU all alone, an afternoon of me and Soundgarden. A simple tribute to the greatest band of the world, in my very humble opinion. And the time will place them in the right spot, but forever will stand the memories of their carrer among us. - -Juan Pablo I you can't find someone to share your thoughts feel free to e-mail me. Maybe we could open a Soundgarden rehab clinic for all of us : ) (just a little humor) ------------------------------ From: Jaime Gonzalez Subject: SOUNDGARDEN :>( This is Terrible news to hear that Soundgarden has disbanded.I feel empty.I was thinking about April 8th the day KC was discovered and now this. What is going to happen to the SOMMS list?I don't want this to go away.There will still be Hater and matt's side projects,I bet the guys will start doing other projects.There is probably many reasons to keep the list alive. Soundgarden has been a focus of attention,an obsession,to quote Eliza, for the past 6 years.1994 was a low point in my life and Superunknown comforted me while my whole world was crashing down around me. I wish the guys from Soundgarden the best of luck.I anticipate hearing new materials from them,whatever it may be.And still,it won't be the same without Soundgarden. Gonzo I'm overfloating alone.CC ------------------------------ From: "Andrew Dunn" Subject: Re: Karen on the End ---- From: COCHRAN_BONNIE/SBCTC@ctc.ctc.edu To: somms@MIT.EDU Date: Wednesday, April 09, 1997 3:18 PM Subject: Karen on the End >Karen Cornell is supposed to be calling the End later this afternoon, >apparently to talk more about the break up. It's going to be on very soon... Bill Reed is going to get a call from her "in a few minutes" this is as of 2:35pm ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: Karen on the End On Wed, 9 Apr 1997 COCHRAN_BONNIE/SBCTC@ctc.ctc.edu wrote: > Karen Cornell is supposed to be calling the End later this afternoon, > apparently to talk more about the break up. i'm forcing myself to listen to the end and will tape & post a transcription ASAP. ------------------------------ From: gene Subject: #somms I wish some Sommsters would join me at #somms. Somone joined who doesn't know who Soundgarden is and they won't go away. - -- gene ------------------------------ From: urbano Subject: WWHHHAATTT!!???!!??!! OK, I'll break the silence... for this... Alba sent me an email telling me of this... ... and a friend of mine just called me to tell me that a friend of his had heard it on the radio... Is this doomsday or what? I also never thought I would feel like this. When kCobain shot himself I didn't give a heck but this... damn... urbano ------------------------------ From: CORNELLSG@aol.com Subject: Re: THE BAND HAS BROKEN UP!!!!!!!!!!! i know i put before it was a rummor but now i now i wasnt , why did it have to happen they were such a great band , and now i feel like something is missing. =(. when i heard it i almost started to cry. ------------------------------ From: CORNELLSG@aol.com Subject: Re: BAD NEWS i was listening to 92.3 k-rock and i heard the bad news , i was shocked ! i wished it never happeden , and i wish today never had to come ------------------------------ From: urbano Subject: Links... Some links so you can read about it: Seth's page: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/ The official site: http://www.imusic.com/soundgarden/news/sgnews18.html E Online's article on it: http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,934,00.html Mr. Showbiz: http://www.mrshowbiz.com/scoop/news/0soundgarden.html Addicted to Noise: http://www.addict.com/html/lofi/MNOTW/ Keep crying... I'll send more as I find'em... urbano ------------------------------ From: Dan Murphy Subject: requiem for the total fucking godhead sommsters: like everyone else, i cannot believe this press release. do i bother asking why? i guess not, we've all got our theories. i guess i am just glad that i saw 'em this past year. i was just listening to my compilation tape this morning at work. "he didn't" was playing, and this old woman walked into the storeroom and said "i hate your music" after i asked how she was. i thought better of replying, but "this is the best damned music to come out of this town" echoed in my head for a while...irony is a bitter pill. a piece of me dies today, even if none of them did. "...if i should be short on words and long on things to say could you crawl into my world and take these words away..." dan -- ***************************************************************************** "The Universe is a big place, perhaps the biggest." - Kilgore Trout danno@wood.net/levitan@u.washington.edu 206-749-6136 ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: CORNELLSG@aol.com Subject: Re: SOUNDGARDEN :>( i hope chris starts another band. i hope he doesnt just stop doing what he's good at , the same 4 the other guys, matt, ben , kim. ------------------------------ From: Jentje Subject: NO!!!!!! This has got to the worst news!!! You don't by any chance think that there might have been a mistake, huh? (Uh, sorry did we say Soundgarden? OOops! we meant "fill in with name of other band"). Lemme guess, too much wishful thinking on my part? Well, maybe they'll end up doing like the Ramones, I mean, how many times have they said that they were calling quits before actually doing it??? And what about that new album that Chris had mentionned they'd be working on? I'm sorry, I really haven't adjusted much from the shock. Especially considering that today I handed in a biography on Chris (that I worked sooo hard on for a week) to my writer's craft class, and I finally completed a really nice drawing of Chris (don't ask how long it took for me to do that!) and it actually looked like him alot! I guess it's just kinda weird to turn on the computer and find out that your favorite band has called it quits. Is the SOMMS list going to turn into a type of support group for awhile? Well, that's what's on my mind right now. Toodles!!! ~>Jenn "I'm a search light soul they say, But I can't see it in the night I'm only faking When I get it right...." <~C.Cornell ------------------------------ From: Kathie and David Subject: Re: Soundgarden/The Doors (long post) I just got the horrible news and now this post, which I have been organizing in my PMS-fogged head all day seems kind of, I don't know, useless. But since I get the digest and will not be a part of the group mourning process on the level I would like to be I will write it as a way to begin dealing with my sadness. Olukemi Oyesiku wrote: > You just have to rent this movie and tell me if I am wrong.For those who > have seen it, What do you think? Has The Doors influenced Soundgarden or > just Chris, or what? This is freaky if I am wrong!! Actually I have seen alot of similarities between Chris and Jim, but I don't think you should use that movie as your point of comparison because it made Jim Morrison seem like a shallow, mean-spirited, only out to get drunk and laid person. The similarities I've seen between him and Chris have more to do with their basic personalities, emotions, and even lyrics, besides of course their mutual love of alcohol. Jim Morrison was what I would consider a genius in many ways. Unlike Chris, Jim was fascinated with the performers' effect on the audience, and experimented with it, seeing how far he could provoke them. Some call the "exposed penis" episode in Florida (way before most of your time) actually a group hallucination brought on by Jim and the excitement of the concert. > Jim is wearing black as Chris does but only for a few seconds. Jim wore black alot, in fact he wore a pair of black leather pants day and night to the point they stunk. I also see many "Jim poses" from Chris, too. > in some of the songs Morrison mentions "snake" which is a very popular > word for Chris! Good observation. Jim was big into reptile and serpent imagery, going so far as to take on a Lizard King persona. He said "We must not forget...that the lizard and the snake are identified with the unconscious and with the forces of evil. There's something deep in human memory that responds strongly to snakes...I think that a snake just embodies everything that we fear." ---from No One Here Gets Out Alive by Jerry Hopkins and Danny Sugerman. Above and beyond these things though I think the similarities are more on the inside. Jim Morrison was very intelligent, sensitive, and incredibly unhappy with the state of his fame. He wanted to be recognized as a poet, and hated the constant focus on the spectacle. He wanted his fans to LISTEN, not to scream and faint. Many times when I have heard Chris talk about being a celebrity I got some of the same vibes. At the end of the song Not to Touch the Earth, on Waiting for the Sun, Jim says, almost in a whisper "I am the Lizard King, I can do anything". During a Soundgarden interview (which I of course can't remember which one) right before a break or something you can hear Chris in the background say "we are the lizard kings, we can do anything." And today I just discovered something that really astonished me. On the liner notes of the Doors L.A. Woman there is a very interesting piece of artwork depicting somebody in the Jesus Christ Pose, being crucified on a telephone or electric pole. If you have this CD go look. It will give you chills in light of this thread. Finally, don't use Val Kilmer's Jim Morrison as a model of what he was really like. If you want to know about the real Jim Morrison read No One Here Gets Out Alive, which is a biography mostly written by a fan who managed to get involved with the workings of the band. And to really get into his head, read his poetry and other writings, like Wilderness (the lost writings of Jim Morrison), The Lords and The New Creatures (early poems), and The American Night (lost writings Vol.2). If you like Chris Cornell lyrics I promise you will be blown away by this stuff. I hated the portrayal of Jim in that movie. It made me sad to think that so many people who weren't familiar with him were going to think that he was like that. His depth and intensity and even his intelligence were totally neglected. Sorry to go on and on, but I'm a huge Morrison fan too. In fact I'm one of those crazies who didn't believe he died when he was supposed to have (if you read the book you may not believe it either!) Now I can't wait for the new incarnations of the guys from Soundgarden. I just know Chris will go on. Maybe this will be an opportunity for all of them to grow. They say that for every door that closes another one opens. It will be interesting to see what happens. Kathie "If my poetry aims to achieve anything, it's to deliver people from the limited ways in which they see and feel." - Jim Morrison ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: garden of sounds soundgarden is...a tear from an eye dreaming. and now it's a tear that fell from my eyes as i read the posts my fellow sommsters wrote before i even knew. in school, i was so excited cause i was telling someone how they're possibly going to tour again around about next winter because they cancelled their 97 spring tour to hit the studio. she'd asked me when the next time SG was coming around was. i didn't know. now i do. should we have known? could we have guessed? never in a million years, to quote eliza. this is unimaginable shock. i'm just so freaking glad that i got to see my one little show in Philly, as i struggled and fought and screamed and yelled and almost cried during BHS and boot camp. how i loved and watched them play with enthusiasm for their gifts. and i wonder, was it an act? but it couldn't be, this is Soundgarden. and i sit and i ponder this fact. i just saw it flashed across Mtv, and the only thing i could do was scream a loud f you in my anger at this occurence. but i can't change it. i guess i'll have to deal with it. guys, this sucks worse than a lot of pain i've felt (and i've felt a lot, i'm not the luckiest person alive, ask anyone who's my friend) and i can only think "now i know how the most intense nirvana fans felt... god, how does someone deal?" and i think, but no- none of them are dead. the band's not gone. just future stuff is dead. the old stuff will be around forever. let's be proud of our boys. they were the very first seattle band to have an album come out on a major label. they've survived for 13 years. they were the real winners, the real thing. they were magicial. they were monstrous, the were amazing and pure feeling and heart and soul and what would most of us do without the music they've created? i don't know, speaking for myself, they're surely helped keep me on the sane side of the world. and i thank them for that. the only sad thing is, i can never thank them collectively as a group anymore as i've so wished i could for so long. mind riot ____ candle's burning yesterday, like somebody's best friend died... ------------------------------ From: COCHRAN_BONNIE/SBCTC@ctc.ctc.edu Subject: Karen on the End Karen Cornell is supposed to be calling the End later this afternoon, apparently to talk more about the break up. Still in total shock and numbness with nothing to say... Bonnie (yes, the digest people are dying from the lack of connectedness with others in mourning, myself being one of those. So hey, cc: any one you know who could use some of the news and thoughts being shared on the list today...it totally sucks) ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: i am an idiot everything i just sent to the list, that whole calm note, was complete bullshit. i am SO fucking upset there's not even words. my tears are done, my yelling has subsided, my mom has already told me to get a grip, and all i can do is kinda stare blankly. soundgarden broke up. the three hardest words to say in the english language. I LOVE YOU SG! THANKS FOR EVERYTHING! :/ no, it's not foolish to cry, it's not immature to yell in anger, and it's not beyond human nature to feel like you've just lost your best friend. i did, when i needed help, i'd pop them in. if i needed to cry, i'd pop them in. if i needed to get psyched up for a hockey game, i'd pop them in. if i just needed comfort in knowing i wasn't alone, i'd pop them in. i can still do that, but it'll just feel . . . wrong for a few days or more... maybe a month or something. i dunno how long this'll take me. i just lost something i loved more than a whole lot of things. i'm really sorry guys, we all know how each other is feeling... mind riot =~ ( ____ candle's burning yesterday, like somebody's best friend died... ------------------------------ From: Betty Anne Redson Subject: e: sg & you-know-what Caryn Rose wrote: > > but FUCK, the thought of never seeing matt cameron play JCP live ever > again just breaks my heart. ;-( > > god DAMN it! Breaks mine too. I can't believe it. Is it possible that in a month they will decide to change their mind? - Marie ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: The day the music died.... Hell-O What a shitty day. I know that most of us feel like a very close friend of ours has died. But no one is dead, and we can be thankful for that. The Nirvana/Blind Melon/Hendrix/Dead/etc fans can attest to that... They are all alive and well, and what they did was best for THEM (at least I fucking HOPE so). It was their band, and they did what they felt they had to do. I can appreciate how hard it must be for them. I don't think I could have done it. Not to mention the fact that I don't like it one bit. Soundgarden will be sorely missed by all of us. They have touched our lives and enriched us all, and for that I thank them. The KTMS's NEW MANTRA--------> REUNION TOUR! Aaron "I hide behind these words I can not find" ------------------------------ From: alisa brozena Subject: Re: BAD NEWS I know there has been a thousand messages about this, but I just want to say to everyone that I'm sure they all will still be around making music and making us feel better, worse, angry, or happy again. I know it may not be the same, but I'm thankful for what they brought us and hope that their future work will only be more to add. DOes any report say exactly what made them come to this decision? Thanks guys,.... for everything. alisa *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Heal my wound without a trace and seal my tomb without my face, I'm going to the only place... -C. Cornell *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* On Wed, 9 Apr 1997 CORNELLSG@aol.com wrote: > i was listening to 92.3 k-rock and i heard the bad news , i was shocked ! > i wished it never happeden , and i wish today never had to come > ------------------------------ From: Orko Subject: Re: Temple Of The Dog Alright fuckface... You want PJ to break up too... youre a dumbass... Eddie is not power hungry.. in fact its just the opposite. On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, MOSH wrote: > > > Here me out on this. Since Soundgarden broke up, and since Pearl Jam is > doing nothing. Since Jeff, Stone, and Mike are pretty sick of Eddie, why > don't they just leave Pearl Jam and get together with Chris and Matt???? > Leave Eddie out of it completely since he is a power hunger wanna-be. > Chris, Matt, Jeff, Stone, and Mike should just go ahead and re-form > Temple Of The Dog. This sounds like a great idea to me, what about you?? > I know that it wouldn't take the place of the void left by Soundgarden, > but at least it's something. > ------------------------------ From: COCHRAN_BONNIE/SBCTC@ctc.ctc.edu Subject: Re: Karen on the End GRTCHNMARA@aol.com wrote: sorry to bother you but what is the End? - ------- It's a radio station in Seattle, 107 on the dial. Karen has quite frequently been on three Seattle radio stations over the years (KISW, KXRX and KNDD-the End) to share her work as an "intuitive" --not a "psychic" for those of you who continue to call her that. She has repeatedly says she is not a psychic, but an intuitive. Anyway, along with that they of course talk to her about Chris and Soundgarden and she always shared her thoughts with great humor and total coolness. She is an awesome woman who has raised probably the most talented bunch of siblings to ever grace this planet. I'm not getting shit done here at work, so you know I'll be listening intently to the radio as I am now scrambling for a goddamn tape to put in my shitty boom box. Anyway, until then Bonnie ------------------------------ From: "McMahon Potvin" Subject: NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! i HEARD THAT A&M ANNOUNCED THAT SOUNDGARDEN BROKE UP TODAY......... i'm thinkin' suicide here........ help Marc ------------------------------ From: HQXH39C@prodigy.com (MR SEAN M MCELENY) Subject: denial at first i was in denial , thinking that it would not be true , then i thought they would get back together but now I've realized that that's just hope , hope's good but i got to live on reality . Now I have regret , like missing a freind who's gone or died , wishing you spent more time with them and realized that the time was precious and you should cherish every moment . I have been a huge Soundgarden fan since I got Superunknown , that album was a revelation to me , they will always be my favorite band , i love their music , all of their music . They are not A awesome band they are THE awesome band . Every single thing about them and their music earns respect and admiration from me , their songs have been inspiring and helped me get through tough situations and gave me a joy when I first heard Superunknown that practically lifted me from the pits of despair and awakened something within me . Like i said I wish I took advantage of the moments to see them , I did go to 3 Lolla's last year but I could have gone to see them ( + possibly meet them) in Chicago when I won a ticket from someone on this list but I has already put up a fight to see them at the 3 Lolla's ( ohio , west Va + Rock. N.c ) and was'nt up to driving there from here ( fairfax VA ) . I saw them at the patriot center here in fairfax on nov 21 but i didn't enjoy the show as much as I could have should have would have becauase I am such a cynic , misanthrope person , I could tell alot of people were there just to mosh , smoke pot , oogle over Chris Cornell or see a " rock show " . I now know this is no way to live , I must take advantage of the rare moments and forget about everyone else except my closest freinds . That is the only regret I have . I can still cherish the tape of rockingham I made at Lolla 96' , I am SCREAMING THE LYRICS over almost every song on that tape . WHAT FUCKING JOY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! im just a baby who looks like a boy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yeah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!sean ------------------------------ From: Josh Verley Subject: This SUCKS!!!! THE FOOLS!!!! Okay! When I first heard I was a little sad. I mean, Soundgarden was one of the ONLY bands that really knew how to make music! Every song they made had its own meaning, and its own...well... you know! I don't know what I will do with all my Soundgarden shirts and CDs and stuff. I wont ever be able to use any of it again! THIS SUCKS!!!! They are FOOLS for doing this. They had things that ever band wants! I wish I could see them now. I would kick the shit out of them! I know they want a chance to do other things, and they can. But they can make music too! "When I hand in my love I'll be done...." ------------------------------ From: "McMahon Potvin" Subject: SOUNDGARDEN........ 1985-1997 R.I.P. Marc there she goes......out in the sunshine........ the band is no more..... i never thought that day would come.... ------------------------------ From: "mcinturff, dylan" Subject: ... I will find more time later to write about this. I just found out and am not feeling too good... To everyone out there feeling the way I do: You can't just stop feeling bad, but you can feel good by thinking of all that they gave to us! THANKS KIM, CHRIS, MATT AND BEN! YOU HAVE MADE MY LIFE BETTER BY MAKING YOUR MUSIC!!! DYLAN ------------------------------ From: Wednesdayj@aol.com Subject: What Addicted To Noise says Yes, you've all heard the devastating news... Words cannot express the loss I feel right now... I'm sure you all feel the same way. Here's what Addicted To Noise had to say about it. ~ Wednesday ~ >>>>>ATN Breaking News: Soundgarden Call It Quits It's over. Photo by Jay Blakesberg. Addicted To Noise staff writer Gil Kaufman reports: Seattle's Soundgarden, who were one of the first bands signed to the influential Sub Pop label, have disbanded. A brief statement released today by A&M Records, the group's label, read in part: "After twelve years, the members of Soundgarden have amicably and mutually decided to pursue other interests." Fronted by wailer Chris Cornell and anchored by the aggressive guitar work of Kim Thayil, Soundgarden are credited, along with Nirvana, Tad, the Melvins and Mother Love Bone (among many others), with laying the foundation for an aggressive, metallic sound that emerged from the Northwest in the late 80's, a sound the media dubbed "grunge." After their debut EP on Sub Pop, 1987's searing Screaming Life, the group became one of the first grunge bands to sign to a major label, releasing their A&M debut, Louder Than Love in 1989, right after they banged out one more indie album, 1988's Ultramega OK for SST. The group tirelessly slugged it out on the road in the early 90's and patiently waited for radio to catch up with their over-the-top 70's rock-inspired sound, which finally happened with 1994's Superunknown, with their biggest hit to date, "Black Hole Sun," as well as "Spoonman" and "Fell On Black Days." The attendant increase in sales and high-visibility, especially for pin-up worthy Cornell (who was recently featured in a solo cover story), landed them on the cover of every major music magazine, as well as in the #2 slot (second only to Metallica) on last summer's Lollapalooza tour. Their final album, last year's self-produced Down on the Upside, like their previous releases, at times sprinkled with plenty of magic 70's dust mixed with heavy metal bombast, contained the hits "Pretty Noose" and "Blow Up the Outside World" and was considered by many critics to be their most nuanced work to date. The band members have been involved in various side-projects over the years, including Hater, with drummer Matt Cameron and bassist Ben Shepherd (on guitar) and a revolving group of local Seattle musicians, who released their self-titled debut on A&M in 1993. Hater are currently mixing their sophomore album. The duo can also be heard alongside Monster Magnet's John McBain on the recently-released album from their other side project, Well Water Conspiracy, Declaration of Conformity on Third Gear Records. Cornell participated in the 1990 Temple of the Dog project, a tribute to the late Andrew Wood of the seminal Seattle glam band, Mother Love Bone, alongside Pearl Jam members Eddie Vedder, Jeff Ament and Stone Gossard. Guitarist Kim Thayil can be heard on the new Pigeonhed record, which features Satchels' Shawn Smith and producer Steve Fisk. A source at A&M said that there is currently no word on the future plans of any of the members. ATN asked Joey Ramone, who toured with the band on last summer's Lollapalooza, to spin some of his one-of-a-kind wisdom on the break-up of "a great band." Ramone, who had not heard about the break-up, told ATN that he could sense some conflict among the members during the Lolla '96 tour. "I could see the conflict, but it just reminded me of us (the Ramones)," said Ramone. "I didn't think anything of it. Nobody gets along with each other in a band, it's just an illusion." Ramone also said he noticed the members "going off into their own little corners" after a set at last year's Big Day Out Festival in Australia, but added that he didn't believe it when he heard that the last date on their final tour, a February 9, 1997 show at the Blaisdell Arena in Honolulu, would really be their last gig. "I heard they were having heavy arguments and stuff at the Hawaii show, but I didn't believe it because they were doing so well," said Ramone. "They were such a real band, always giving their all, especially on Lollapalooza, and I really thought they were as grounded as you could be with their success. I thought they'd have to be nuts to break up now."<<<<< ------------------------------ From: RachelMak@aol.com Subject: painted tears across my eyes/RS article on this very very sad day, its most important 2 remember the enjoyment Soundgarden has brought all of us over the years. Still, I feel like my best friend died. I can't believe I'll never see Soundgarden live ever again. well, here is the most info I found. It comes from the rolling stone AOL site (yeah i know chris would be disappointed) but it has some quotes and refers to Ben being a big part of the break-up. rachel :( :( :( :( Soundgarden Splits : Grunge pioneers call it quits to pursue other projects After 12 years and five albums, Soundgarden formally called it quits this morning in a statement issued by their label, A&M Records. Although the statement said the group was disbanding to "pursue other interests," sources have speculated that frustration with touring, artistic differences and tension with bassist Ben Shepherd also contributed to the breakup. "Kim [Thayil] and Chris [Cornell] sat down the other day....and they said, 'Look, we've accomplished everything we've wanted to do, there's a lot of pressure for us to be Soundgarden, people's jobs depend on us, but we've done it all, we've been to the mountain and back, maybe it's time for us to try something different for a while," says a source close to the band. Another reason for the split was Shepherd, Soundgarden's third bassist, who reportedly walked offstage during the middle of the band's February 9 performance at the Neal Blaisdell Arena in Honolulu. The show turned out to be the band's last. Shepherd also irritated his bandmates by saying he was going to leave Soundgarden to devote all his time to his side project Devilhead, according to Shelly Gossard of Loosegroove Records, Devilhead's label. "Kim told me this had been coming for a while," says the source. "They had actually been considering it since Ben's little temper tantrums in Australia and Hawaii. The very end of the last tour, the writing was on the wall for them. They had not been happy for a very long time." The entire statement reads: "After twelve years, the members of Soundgarden have amicably and mutually decided to disband to pursue other interests. There is no word at this time on any of the members' future plans." Members of Soundgarden have long been involved in various side projects. Cameron and Shepherd formed the band Hater with friends in 1993 and released an album on A&M. More recently, guitarist Thayil and drummer Matt Cameron played on the new album from Pigeonhed, a side project formed by Screaming Trees producer Steve Fisk and Satchel singer Shawn Smith. ROBERT LEVINE with TOM ------------------------------ From: Alan and Sharla Subject: Goodbye to Soundgarden?? I was just listening to the local radio station nd they annouced that it is official. Soundgarden has split up!! I am Freaking out here!! Is this true??? Sharla ------------------------------ From: SndGrdn45@aol.com Subject: No, this isn't happpening. No, this isn't happeneing No. My life is over. How could the greatest band ever break up? I just heard in MTV news. When my friend called me and told me, I just broke down. I'm still breaking down. I'm still crying hysterically, asking why this happened. Even though I have a good idea why, but my life is Soundgarden. I have not seen them yet (b/c they sell out in a matter of seconds, and the club sent me the special phone number too late.) I feel so sick and I have that horrible feeling in my stomach. I cannot believe that they broke up after all these years, all the amazing music. I cant describe this feeling of emptyness in words. A piece of my life is gone. All that time that I spent listening, watching, or doing whatever with this band seems like it's been taken away. I cannot believe that I can never see Soundgaden play together ever again in my whole life. I've been waiting till they came around, started recording. Just being able to see this remarkable group with my very own naked eye. To see Chris sing, to see Kim, Ben, and Matt. But I can't, which will leave me depressed for the rest of my already shitty life, which will be even worse now. I don't want or feel like talking to my parents, friends, or people around me because this feeling is unbearable. A big chunk of my heart and life is, or was SG. But they'll always be amazing to me. I was just listening to BMF this afternoon, then this happens. My last time of listening to Soundgarden not knowing that they were broken up. Well, I have to go lie down or something. I think I'm going to be sick. - -antonia ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: a few words......... Once in a lifetime, if you are lucky, you will find a source of energy, power, beauty, love, poetry, art, sweet rage, and hope that transends ordinary words and penetrates the very fiber of your being. Soundgarden was that for me. I'm not a very passionate person about many things. And before Soundgarden, I was ignorant about the power of music, writing, poetry, and art. They truly changed my life, the way a write, and the way I think. I was influenced by the raw energy of the band like very few things have in my 30 years. I'm left thinking..............."now what?" This has been very hard on me. I left work early and just came home and watched MTV for some report. I don't think even I realized how much they meant to me. I hope the list, and the page continues to thrive in some form so that we can keep our bond that we've developed and keep track of what musical milestones may still emerge from the members as they go their seperate directions. God, I feel like shit. Lance "The lives we make never get us anywhere but dead." ------------------------------ From: "ANDRI NADZRI" Subject: No..it cant be happening..... what??no warning?no news???? no nothing???? no SOUNDGARDEN??:(( i feel like cryinnnn...... nothing to say, andri - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Betty Anne Redson Subject: Re: This SUCKS!!!! THE FOOLS!!!! Josh Verley wrote: > > Okay! When I first heard I was a little sad. I mean, Soundgarden was one > of the ONLY bands that really knew how to make music! Every song they > made had its own meaning, and its own...well... you know! I don't know > what I will do with all my Soundgarden shirts and CDs and stuff. I wont > ever be able to use any of it again! What are you talking about? They broke up, they're not banned! You can still wear their shirts, and listen to their cd >THIS SUCKS!!!! They are FOOLS for > doing this. They had things that ever band wants! I wish I could see them > now. I would kick the shit out of them! I know they want a chance to do > other things, and they can. But they can make music too! Yeah, it does suck. But they're not fools, I am sure they had a good reason for breaking up. - Marie ------------------------------ From: Bosshogrox@aol.com Subject: don't worry I'm sure there is great music from all of these guys in the future. Don't get me wrong it really sucks. But it's interesting to think how the band members lives will progress. This list is great and it's not over dont worry ------------------------------ From: SndGrdn45@aol.com Subject: one more thought.......... Yes, I still fell sick about this breakup. I just wanted to thatnk everyone on this wonderful list for letting me know more about the band and it's music. Thank you for all this infromation that at one time I might've not know. Thank you for teaching me. I'd especially like to thank Shroomy for the pictues, and Seth for the website, and all his knowledge of this amazing group of people. You're a good man Seth. This sounds like I'm not gonna be on SOMMS anymore, but I cant leave!! Soundgarden will always be the best band (they're more than a band. I don't know what they are. Geniuses.) They'll always be in our hearts. We'll always going to love them and listen to them forever, right? Besides, there's no way that my shrine is gonna get moved or put away. But I still haven't heard about it on the radio (92.3 KROCK) Kurt Loder said it was official from A&M. Well, I have to go cry again now. - -antonia ------------------------------ From: Josh Verley Subject: FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!! NO!!! Okay, I kno this is like the third letter I have sent, but I'm really getting mad! Like I said Soundgarden was one of the only bands that really made mucis. Every song ther wrote was magic! I like other bands yes, but not one of them can ever ber as good as Soundgarden! We need to stop acting like we can talk then out of this! " and I hope its a sweet ride Sleep tight for me Sleep tight for me I'm gone" - -Chris Cornell ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: "Would you cry for me?" This is NOT happening. This CANNOT be happening. I've progressed from crying, to being furious, to being numb. I'm just kind of sitting here now, not feeling anything... but I'm still crying. I keep asking myself 'WHY?' Why are they doing this? Why can't I DO ANYTHING to stop it? I feel so HELPLESS. Part of me has died today. That sounds so melodramatic, but I know that most of you know how I feel. Almost 8 years of my life have been wrapped up in a web of Soundgarden, and now it's over. Over. The only thing worse would be if one of them died. People keep mailing me with sympathy notes, and promises of solo albums and side projects... but I DON'T FUCKING CARE. I want SOUNDGARDEN, not Chris Cornell. That sounds really inane, I know... but I can't help it. Yes, I will welcome any material they decide to put out now... together or not... but it will NEVER be the same. And it will NEVER be as great or have as much impact. Well Seth, I guess you don't have to worry any more about what's going to happen to the web site and mailing list now. Shroom... Official Soundgarden Hootchie... yeah, whatever. ------------------------------ From: CORNELLSG@aol.com Subject: Re: Bleed your heart out i hope we can still have this list , nirvana is not a band any more and they have a list so lets keep the list. and when i heard the bad news i couldnt beleive it and my mind still wount let me beleive it . ------------------------------ From: CORNELLSG@aol.com Subject: Re: What else? i would like to do something to get them back together , if only i chris cornell's sn then maybe i can talk to him and ask him y it happened and if theres a chance of them getting back together. ------------------------------ From: Rita Subject: you guess i've been sifting through the obituaries and i've read two things that disturbed me deeply........."Down on the Upside, their last album" and "their final performance in honalolu" from the atn articles. final, i can't believe it still......who saw this atomic bomb coming......... so i've known since 2pm est. shock has worn off, sadness has kicked in. everything sounds so final, final this and final that and final fuck it. someone asked if its silly to cry......no its not...........and its not just a band it fucking soundgarden for the love of christ. soundgarden GOD!!!! the band i thought i'd take my kids to see with me on their 25th aniversary tour......and if i didn't have kids, i was planning to take my dogs. this came out of no where.....talk about shock.....chris solo eh? well, it just won't be the same, chris on stage with a bunch of strangers. never again will i see kim's stoic stance while unleashing a tirade of kick ass hard rocking gee-tar NOIZE, and mattster drumming his little heart out while that blond hair bounces around, and ben's tantrums and spit and chris' straining neck while trying to hit those notes.......together. solo maybe, but it'll never be the same. i'll have something more meaningful to say about how the boys took me through my teen age angst years (found them at 14, lost them at 21)and all the rest of the gooey stuff with the hopes that matt might come across while "tickering with his computer" late one night.........its maybe my only chance to ever let them know. i think i'm gonna throw up now, rita ps. someone mentioned at least no one's dead...........well thank god for that......as nirvana flashes back into my soundgarden penetrated brain. and bite your tongue whoever said pearl jam should break up too......!!!! ------------------------------ From: "V. Anselmo" Subject: I don't understand... What could so disastrously and fatally rupture the most brilliant fusion of creative musicians to ever touch my life. At first I thought I was numb, but I'm not. I'm in the kind of pain that hurts so deeply the body has to suppress it or the person will crumble. I was happy and exuberant just a few hours ago, but that was then. I'm suddenly exhausted, crying. Karen Cornell was just interviewed on 107.7 THE END in Seattle. She said that nobody is fighting. Nobody is angry. The guys simply feel the need to explore new and more exciting projects. Of course I (and all of SOMMS) wouldn't want them to continue making us happy at the expense of their own pleasure in creating. For now, my heart is broken and I don't understand. This wound is going to take a long time to heal. -Vikki :( ------------------------------ From: "Harris, Court V." <14789harri@tacoma.bv.com> According to KNDD in Seattle, SG is no more... CC's mom was on the radio, and it seems it really is true. Fuck it. ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 84] ***************************************