Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 02:00:06 -0400 Subject: SOMMS Digest - 10 Sep 1997 to 11 Sep 1997 There are 43 messages totalling 1521 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. [Fwd: Personal interpretations] 2. Zero Chance: Personal Interpretation 3. Love, Hate, yadda yadda yadda... (2) 4. B-sides 5. religion/silly event at school (3) 6. Frowngarden/Dream(very short one)/Repost 7. 1998 Soundgarden Calender!!! 8. I don't like Little Joe 9. Songs personal interpretations (2) 10. down on the tattoo side 11. Fwd: Zero Chance: Personal Interpretation 12. Love?...Hate?...Love???? (2) 13. i LOVE Little Joe!! 14. Sassy 15. who`s turning 29???? 16. Love, hate and the meaning of life 17. Slaves & Bulldozers 18. Chicago area Sommsters ONLY!! 19. The SG/Rugrats Connection (5) 20. Personal interpretations] 21. words from 'a grump' 22. Greatest Hits article 23. school 24. 1998 in soundgarden's future? 25. that damn christmas album! 26. Never seen the light of day... 27. that interpretation thing 28. mind riot: song of the century 29. My first Soundgarden moment (2) 30. Harassment and other things 31. Ultramega OK 32. rarified 33. the Wing'd Vermin livvvvveess To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:39:13 +0000 From: Kathie and David Subject: [Fwd: Personal interpretations] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------711334FC9B2D433F8773C86D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been asked by the writer to forward this to the list. Hope it works. Kathie --------------711334FC9B2D433F8773C86D Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from tsai3.teleline.es (teleline.teleline.es [194.224.53.3]) by www.cnsnet.com (8.8.5/3.8davy) with ESMTP for delivery to "" id XAA17573; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 23:46:49 GMT Received: from roserdo ([194.224.54.167]) by tsai3.teleline.es (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with ESMTP id AAB29470 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 01:34:52 +0200 Received: (from nachete@localhost) by roserdo (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA00211 for oponfam@cnsnet.com; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 01:01:36 +0200 From: Ignacio Priego Horcas Message-Id: <199709082301.BAA00211@roserdo> Subject: Re: Personal interpretations To: oponfam@cnsnet.com Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 01:01:35 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <3412E72C.1A490F8C@cnsnet.com> from "Kathie and David" at Sep 7, 97 05:41:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I think that sending personal interpretations of the songs to the list would be very interesting. One of my favourites spanish bands are 'Heroes del silencio', who some people hates because they write very dark lyrics, but i personally think that's one of the great things of the band - they know how to write things besides 'Oh girl i love you and i will never forget you'. And i think SG lyrics are very special in that way (or maybe i'm to stupid to understand them). What i'm trying to say is that i spent many hours talking with my friends about that lyrics, and it's very interesting, you learn a lot of things, not only about the song and the band, but other the people you are talking to, and other ways you can look al life (wow, sounds phylosophic :-) So, if you agree, i think we could start a thread about that, discusing everyone's point of view about the songs, correcting, or just commenting. And i'll start asking something: I think i understand 'Slaves & Bulldozers' (correct me if i dont) It talks about somebody who's gonna send his girlfriend to hell, because she just wanted to use him, playing with the boy and his feelings. I think i'm right because once i was in that situation :-( and i felt every word in that song as mine. Now, supossing i'm right, please somebody tell me: - What the hell does the title mean (slaves & bulldozers isn't my idea of a feelings-love-related thing) Thanx for your patient reading. I almost forgot! If somebody thinks this isn't an interesting thread, and most of you dont want to follow this, i would thank if somebody interested emailed me so we could get with it privately. P.S.: dont cry for me, i just found another girl, much better than the other one ;-) Nacho Priego - Alive in the SpanishUnknown --------------711334FC9B2D433F8773C86D-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 22:07:43 +0000 From: Kathie and David Subject: Zero Chance: Personal Interpretation I've always seen Zero Chance as being the continuation of Chris' grieving over Andrew Wood's death. I see it as a sequal to Say Hello 2 Heaven. Elisabeth Kubler-Ross identified five stages of mourning and grieving. These are: 1. Denial: "No, not me - it can't be true." also "numbness" 2. Anger: "Why me?" 3. Bargaining: "If I had done (do) this maybe I could (can) change things". 4. Depression 5. Acceptance: At peace with reality I see Say Hello...as Chris dealing with the first two, *denial*("Please, mother mercy Take me from this place.." and "Now I'm warm from the candle But I feel too cold to burn") and *anger* ("He hurt so bad like a soul breaking But he never said nothing to me"-the way he sings this as much as the words - and "Now it seems like too much love Is never enough, you better seek out another road cause this one has ended abrupt..."). In fact this song expresses these two emotions, mixed in with the love and confusion, better than any I've ever heard. Then Zero Chance seems to deal with the next two, *bargaining* and *depression*: Bargaining: "They say if you look hard you'll find your way back home" To me this line is asking Andy to come back, that he could if he tried hard enough. I had a very close friend die when I was 18 and I felt that way, all I wanted was to have him back. Depression: To me the whole song is about depression "I think I know the answer I stumbled on and all the world fell down and all the sky went silent, cracked like glass and slowly tumbled to the ground" and of course "I'm thinking of your highness and crying long upon the loss" and "why doesn't anyone believe in loneliness" And finally, "Zero chance of ever turning this around" may be *acceptance* I love this song (which took on extra significance for me just after the breakup) and see it as another excellent, emotional treatise on grief, but a bit further on in the process than Say Hello. Comments? Kathie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 22:19:35 -0500 From: Like Suicide Subject: Love, Hate, yadda yadda yadda... Well, the geocities mail server decided to finally get it's butt back online, so here I am with the task of soaking in all the info about this thread which I found rather interesting. There are some SG songs which I like right away, and continue to like them, and will always like them..such as Beyond the Wheel, Overfloater, S & B, etc.. Then there are some songs which at first glance I don't necessarily like them at first, but they do tend to grow on me, and I can usually pick out points in the song which just make it unique and worth listening too... Circle of Power - yeah, most people don't seem to like it, and I could also do without without Hiro screaming away, but if you listen to the guitars behind the screaming, you'll find the song kicks alot of ass. Kim has a great riff which explodes into a fill which just blows me away everytime. Little Joe - yeah, it is better live, nuff said. Ty Cobb - eh, it'd be better without the mandolins... And I don't remember who it was (maybe Jamie the somms mom? I may be wrong on this), but I remember somebody saying most of the stuff on UMOK was pretty bad. Well, I'd really have to disagree here, I think some of their greatest stuff is in this ablum, Beyond the Wheel being obvious, but Flower, All Your Lies, 667, Head Injury, Incessant Mace, they are just such great powerful songs... Anyway enough rambling now and back to the drudgery that is highschool.... Larry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 20:33:41 -0700 From: Dave Subject: B-sides SO there are going to be some b-sides on the umm that album that a and m is going to put out. Any one wanna guess what they are? Odds are they are ones we have but maybe they arent. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:26:34 -0700 From: Tiffany Saint Subject: religion/silly event at school Disclaimer: the views expressed are not necessarily in touch with reality, nor are they necessarily interesting to read. 1. Since christian iconic symbolism is so prevalent in Western culture/American culture, it's not really suprising that Chris Cornell appropriates christian imagery for his lyrics. Just because Chris Cornell uses christian symbolism doesn't mean he still considers himself a christian. His responses in interviews indicate that he does not use the imagery to, for example, defend christianity or even to criticize religion. It's possible that he chooses the symbols (jesus christ pose, holy water, heretic, hand of god, etc) because of their evocative power rather than for their religous significance. 2. A guy I had in a class a whole year ago came up to me and asked me how I felt about "the breakup". I thought it was cool he remembered how I love soundgarden when he didn't even remember my name. l8r Tiffany /\/\^^/\/\ Vampyre Cat ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 01:12:08 -0400 From: Catherine Veit Subject: Re: Frowngarden/Dream(very short one)/Repost personally, i rather enjoy reading about other people's sg dreams. it comforts me to know there are other's like me out there that can be just as "pathetic". but it's not at all pathetic mind you. it's common knowledge that when you let your brain wander it will usually fall into subjects that may scare you, excite you, or hell.. even make you a little happy. your dreams can also consist of your last thoughts before you go to bed. so usually the last thing i think about before hitting the sack would have to be.... hmmm.. you guessed it, sg. and what usually makes me happy is.. you gussed right again.. god you're good, sg. i feel that sharing the same dream subjects or ideas is a great bonding method and i hope it continues.... actually, i don't have one as of now, but since i'll be allowing my brain to wander in a few hrs. i just might have a nice new one to share w/ u all tomorrow morning...... good night -CATS4KIM ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 17:08:50 -0700 From: John Scully Subject: 1998 Soundgarden Calender!!! Hey SOMMSters, I just scored the 1998 SG calender from the local music shop. It kicks serious ass, but in one of the pictures Kim looks like he's half bald (July). Haere Ra Dave :-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:44:41 +1000 From: Robert Joseph Hutchinson Subject: Re: I don't like Little Joe > > >Yeah, I don't like Little Joe either. Here are some other SG tracks that > >I skip on ye old CD player: > > > >Ty Cobb > >Power Trip (I have better songs to listen to) > >Smokestack Lightning (been known to happen) > >Outshined (I think Outshined's guitar is really lacking) > >Show Me are you kidding? this is the first time i have heard of a fan who does not like outshined. its a great song. ty cobb is good too. have to agree though about zero chance, rhinosaur, dusty etc. a few of the songs on dotu get pretty tired pretty quick my #1 SG song of the moment has to be Big Dumb Sex, but nobody else seems to mention it. it too is a great raw song. > > > > .' `. > > .'/ __ ___ ______ _ _ _ __ \`. > > .'/ \/ || _||_ _/ /|| | | | | | / \ | `\. > > ' / /\/| || |_ | | / || | | | | |/ /\_\| |\\` > > / / | || _| | | /_||| | | | | || _ | _ \ > > / / | || |_ | | / || |_ | |_ | |\ \/ /| | \ \ > > / / | ||___| |_|/_/|_||___||___||_| \__/ | | \ \ > > / / |/ \| \ \ > >/.' `.\ > okay i thought this was SG related rob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 02:18:07 -0400 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Songs personal interpretations I also read that S&B was about execs, and that the title was from something a little kid said (though what he/she said and in what context was not disclosed). Jen Grover ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 02:40:55 -0400 From: Nadezhda Ball Subject: down on the tattoo side hey all you loveable sommsters! it is yet another whyareyoupostingthis post from the one, the only, Nadezhda Vivian Ball!!! yay! crowd goes wild! rah! anyway......the crack has a steady flow in mi cranuim. alright today, well it's like 3 in the am, so it was yesterday. anyway yesterday, my boy from boston came to visit me, for like a day. he wanted to get a tattoo, rebel forces from star wars. and i wanted one too, of the auryn from the neverending story, i had the muny and everything, but i was underage. and in nyc, there's some law about you cannot permanately scar a minor even with parental consent. i was kinda pissed cuz i finally got all my courage up to do it and bear the pain, even though i had no problem w/ gettin my tongue pierced. it also pissed me off cuz if i had kept my big mouth shut and not asked the question of can i bring my mom in, he would have done it. cuz all these hoochies from the high school around the corner came in looking all young asking him all these questions, and he ignored them. but he was talkin to me pricing my tat, recommending things to me and shit. he didn't even check my boy's id. now here's the soundgarden part, it's minor, but important to me. no, me or my boy did not get a sg tat. they had tapes that you could chose from to listen to while you wuz gettin yer tat. i looked and all they had was like offspring and in utero and crappy nyc indie bands. i almost formed a frown until i saw badmotorfinger. i was like wow i'm gonna get my tat to bmf!!! this was before i found out i cannot get scarred for life. so they started werkin on my boy and the guy who was just chillin around for no apparent reason changed the nin tape and put it in cuz he heard me talkin bout it. it played on swmgec, i was like that's my fav song. this guy just did that out of the goodness of his heart, he told me so. well at least my boy from bean town can say he got his tat to the side b (was that it, i dunno cds have invaded mi cranium). he's all tryin to play it off that he don't like the boys from the garden, but he knows all the werds to like every one of their songs, and forms a smile when he hears them. whatever. i thought the funniest part was when the hoochies came in and saw me all jammin along to the songs, and were like why is dis black bitch chillin to this music. there was my post, no declarations of love, just clarifactions of it, cuz i had to let ya know who was who and what was what. it was idiotic rambling, but if you got this far, i give you a big hug. DeZHy "if this isn't makin sense, it doesn't make it lies." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 03:10:06 -0400 From: Nadezhda Ball Subject: Fwd: Zero Chance: Personal Interpretation --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Re: Zero Chance: Personal Interpretation Date: 97-09-10 03:09:49 EDT From: Nahedgehog To: oponfam@cnsnet.com About Zero Chance, I never really thought of the song in that way. I always took it literally, being alone and shit. I do know that that song has helped me through some lonely nights, even though it made me even more depressed, but at least it made me feel more comfortable with it. I must say that now that I think about it, the song could totally be interpeted like that. I mean Andy's passing had a real big impact on Chris. I have friends that have been gone for years, but I still grieve, and maybe write an occasional story about it. But I guess we'll never know, unless we ask the big CC himself. Yo dude! You out there? Give us a sign, tell us what it all means! <> Tru tru. I think that any singer can make a song mean so much more with his/her voice, but for some reason when Chris sings either of those songs, or any song for that matter, it sounds as though he's putting his whole essence into it. It makes his werds even truer than they already are, they twist the song into a new emotion, not even a song anymore. The wonderful thing is that he doesn't do this alone, it's not that he has the help of a guitar or a bass or drums, but that they are Kim and Ben and Matt, doing the same thing and they all become one, producing a sound so....so right on, it's so beautiful, even the upbeat fun songs and the songs we're not too fond of. You don't think of them seperately, unless you want to, you let it flow, you let it take you. Is this sounding a lil bit too sappy, and i'm reading way too deep into this? Or am I telling you something you already know? Huh? Answer me! Well, who cares cuz I don't, that's just what I feel when I listen to them. Well I must go cuz Rocky and Bullwinkle and Boris and Natasha are beconking me, and then it's off to dreamland......zzzz. Catch me some z's. Hey look I got one, I'll put it in a jar. Nadezhda "if this isn't makin sense, it doesn't make it lies." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 03:27:20 -0400 From: Nadezhda Ball Subject: Re: Songs personal interpretations Well number one, kid from the SpanishUnknown, a song is how you interpert it, but as far as Chris goes, I think he said it's just a song about being an asshole, being human, and how people can't or don't want to deal with it. I forget whose interpertation that is, his or mine or both. The title? I don't know, he said something about how he heard a lil kid say it, but I still don't understand how that fits into the song. But then again, i can, if I just payed attention to things that I just typed. Possibly we can see it like this, you feel like yer a slave to people and yer being pushed around too much, and this is a way to break free from it, blow off some steam, but then again, this is just my interpertation. Okay enuf from the girl that is Alive in the UrbanUnknown. DeZHy "if this isn't makin sense, it doesn't make it lies." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 03:49:24 -0400 From: Nadezhda Ball Subject: Re: Love?...Hate?...Love???? I just saw that someone added Show Me to the list. Well I must say that I forgot to add that one, and that was kinda top of the list. I mean what is going on in that song? Sorry but to me, it sounds like glam rock, break out the lycra. I did happen to get used to it though, cuz I'm a sucker like that. I just stopped tryin to look at it on the deep level, and saw it as fun. I think the disappointment basically came from knowing that this did not represent good sg songs. I mean if yer gonna have a song on a compilation album, put something good, I mean really good. Another song that really jumps my gasket is Rhinosaur, why do you ask, they play it too goddamn much on KROC (local NYC area station). They don't even play sg, but when they do, it's fukin Rhinosaur. I'm just happy that they do get airplay. It just kinda pisses me off cuz they have better songs, singles even, that they could play. I mean right at that moment some possible sg fan could turn it off cuz it gets on their nerves, but then that song could turn someone on to them, but whatever...besides the point... I guess I just don't see why that song is having it's pee shee stroked nicely. Ty Cobb used to rub me the wrong way too, but it's sounding a lot nicer everytime I hear it. I dunno, I think the upbeatness put on some puppy dog eyes and suckered me into it. Otay, I hope that's it. I hope that my brain is empty from all of the songs that bear unfondness in them, except for some LTL songs that I promised myself I would not look at cuz i'd be up well into next week. Alright, now I'm done. DeZHy "and today's program was brought to you by the letter 'N' and the number '1' " i like that one better, but i cannot change my habits. btw, "N" is for Nadezhda, that's me, and "1" is for number one, that's me, according to me. "if this isn't makin sense, it doesn't make it lies." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 01:56:01 PDT From: The Koggle Subject: i LOVE Little Joe!! hello hello list people i have to say that upon hearing Little Joe on SL/F i didn't really like it too much, i listened to it and didn't hate it or anything, but it didn't reach out and grab me or anything.. but after watching motorvision there was something that made me pay attention.. weird, but after i saw it, i wanted to get the cd back out and play it over and over again.. anyone have the same experience? yeah, he sings with a higher voice than most, but that's what's so great about it.. same with Beyond the Wheel.. shows his awesome range.. but on the other hand.. i can't stand Tears to Forget..*shudder* that's why i hate most really really heavy metal stuff too.. it doesn't sound like you would need talent to do it.. just yelling and thrashing and not much else.. i like to think of soundgarden as Intell-i-genttt :) but hey, if you like metal, that's fine.. this here is MY opinion.. ahh i am also musically ignorant enough to not have heard of Ave Maria before now (i'm not even sure if i'm spelling it correctly! Ava? bahh) so whatever Chris does will be wonderful on my ears :) later, i'm off to go sniffle and cough under my covers to the comfort of SG.. they are sooooo great when you're sick, notice that? :) - kogg - ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 21:50:59 +0800 From: Georgia Kennedy Subject: Love?...Hate?...Love???? A thought just occurred to me whilst reading one of the may responses to this thread (gotta love ya, Toni!). I can honestly say that there aren't any SG songs that I don't like. At all. There are only ones that I love more than some others. I love listening to any one of their albums, because each one speaks to me in a completely different way, and represents so many different things and emotions to me personally. A certain song, a certain event, my friends that were there... you know the stuff. Which is why they are my favourite band of course! I only have to hear the first couple of notes from The Day I Tried to Live to know that it doesn't get much better than that! georgia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 09:21:21 -0500 From: "Viray, Rachelle" Subject: Sassy Hi Sassy: Yeah, I've been writing you too--I'm not sure what's going on. Think my email alias is screwed up. Try both pyxis@spyglass.com and rviray@spyglass.com. To the list: sorry to interrupt. Back to your regular programming now. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 17:41:23 +0200 From: Stimpy Subject: who`s turning 29???? hey there all ! how`s it going?? well i just wanted to wish my favorite bass player Ben a happy 29th birthday yeah yeah i know it will be only in 10 days but in ten i mite wouldnt be able to e-mail because of some technical stuff... well any way have a great 29th birthday Ben and may all of your wishes come true!!! well bye !! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ BEWARE: You have just been e-mailed by "Stimpson J. Cat" You may Replay this mail to:stimpy1@netvision.net.il ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:34:11 +0200 From: Ignacio Priego Horcas Subject: Love, hate and the meaning of life You say whatever you want, but i still don't like Little Joe. But there were some songs mentioned here... I love Ty Cobb, it's pure energy, the same goes to tears to forget. Maybe that one is too simple to SG music, but i still like it (and i dont like heavy metal) But Ty Cobb, i'd like to see somebody in the hard rock side trying to make that kind of music, that energy, and with a, somehow, complex melody. Specially the last part, everyone is playing at maximum power, it sound like coming from an explossion, but it still has a melody under that, and everything fits perfectly. In fact, the last seconds of Ty Cobb are in my favourites SG moments list, and in the first places, along with Mind Riot's intro, SWMGEC ending, Jesus Christ's guitars and some other heavenly sounds :-) And I agree with some others who mentioned LTL, isn't a bad LP (It has many, many, many good songs) but, i think it needs something, dunno, maybe cos it's a transition album, it doesn't have the darkness of Ultramega (which i love) nor the perfection of Badmotorfinger. Nacho Priego - Alive in the SpanishUnknown. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:45:28 +0200 From: Ignacio Priego Horcas Subject: Slaves & Bulldozers You see, this is the positive thing about talking bout music. First, i dont think anybody has still written about the real meaning of the song (except N. Ball - sorry i cant spell your name, and im too lazy to look it :-). Maybe i was too restrictive in the meaning at the first moments, the same as you who wrote about the company execs. It just talk about using people, best, when people uses you, until one day you decide to send them to hell. If you analize the lyrics, it can be interpreted almost in any case fitting this pattern. And even the title makes sense - Slaves (you) and bulldozers (people who uses you - they try to destroy everything they dont like - just like bulldozers). Thanx a lot to all that people who contributed. And, about Zero Chance, what a good interpretation. I didn't ever think of that like remembering somebody dead, i thought that was just a depressing song. I usually ignore every reference to dead, because i'm obsesed (is that good english?) with it, whenever i'm depressed i think of it, and i find everything dead related. And now i'll stop writing this shit, cos i've realized its clear. Bye Nacho Priego - Alive in the SpanishUnknown ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:33:10 -0500 From: tonerkin Subject: Chicago area Sommsters ONLY!! HEY! What are you doing reading this??? Do you live in Chicagoland?? If not Delete this NOW!!! < OK! are they all gone?? HEAR YE! HEAR YE! Calling all you Chicago(and suburban) SOMMSters. We are having some Somms visitors to our fair city in October. Would any of you care to join us in a mini SOMMSfest on Saturday October 11th??? There are no real concrete plans made yet. Just want to see what kind of response I will get before we do that. There are 4 people involved so far. UKDeb, Candy(our two visitors from strange and exotic lands) Kathie and myself. Come and join us. Talk Soundgarden, gossip about all the non-Chicago SOMMSters. If you're not there we will talk about you! Just kidding.....in Seth's honor we will keep on topic! Reply to me: tonerkin@pipeline.com NOT the list. Thank you. I will be in contact with those of you interested. toni ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:52:47 -0400 From: Elric&Dagny Subject: The SG/Rugrats Connection Hi guys! Have any of you ever seen Rugrats on Nickelodeon? It's probably my daughter's favorite show. Actually it's really good and funny; they put in alot of adult jokes too. Anyway, all the music is done by Mark Mothersbaugh. Do you recognize that name? He's the guy from Devo, and he wrote Girl U Want. You'll see his name on the SOMMS credits. So there's a SG reference. Wait, it gets even better! Last week there was an episode where Chuckie (the wimpy kid) hit his head and Anjelica (the evil brat) told him that he was going to become a rhinocerous because he was growing a horn on his head. (She's so bad!) Since the characters are babies, they don't always pronounce things right. Tommy (the star) went around the whole show telling Chuckie that it would be OK even if he did turn into a RHINOSAUR!!! I couldn't believe it! I can't even count how many times he said the word rhinosaur. This cartoon would have been made pre-DOTU. Did SG watch Rugrats? Exactly where did they come up with that song name? ;) I found it kind of funny anyway. Life Rules! Dagny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 15:26:11 -0500 From: "John D." Subject: Re: Personal interpretations] What's the enclosure? ---------- > From: Kathie and David > To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: [Fwd: Personal interpretations] > Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:39:13 +0000 > >I've been asked by the writer to forward this to the list. Hope it works. > >Kathie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:34:26 -0500 From: tonerkin Subject: Re: The SG/Rugrats Connection At 02:52 PM 9/10/97 -0400, you wrote: > Since the characters are babies, they don't always pronounce things right. I can't even >count how many times he said the word rhinosaur. This cartoon would >have been made pre-DOTU. Did SG watch Rugrats? Of course they do...where do you think Ben got those great "hissy fit" ideas of his?? Anjelica the evil brat child! Which Ben fan threw that giant spit wad??? >Exactly where did they >come up with that song name? Ben, Chris, Matt and Kim all talk funny ....you didn't know that?? Hence the song Rhinosaur. toni ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 15:39:21 -0500 From: "John D." Subject: Re: religion/silly event at school Hey! Now there is some intelligent insight. If I may also add, since Chris Cornell was raised Catholic, as was I, the images, words and way of life sketch out what kind of etic person you are(As in any religon) thus using God in your music grabs ones attention I belive. It makes the songs larger than life. -John ---------- > From: Tiffany Saint > To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: religion/silly event at school > Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:26:34 -0700 > >Disclaimer: the views expressed are not necessarily in touch with >reality, nor are they necessarily interesting to read. > >1. Since christian iconic symbolism is so prevalent in Western > culture/American culture, it's not really suprising that Chris Cornell > appropriates christian imagery for his lyrics. Just because > Chris Cornell uses christian symbolism doesn't mean he still > considers himself a christian. His responses in interviews indicate > that he does not use the imagery to, for example, defend > christianity or even to criticize religion. It's possible that he > chooses the symbols (jesus christ pose, holy water, heretic, hand > of god, etc) because of their evocative power rather than for > their religous significance. > >2. A guy I had in a class a whole year ago came up to me and asked > me how I felt about "the breakup". I thought it was cool he > remembered how I love soundgarden when he didn't even remember my > name. > >l8r > >Tiffany > > > >/\/\^^/\/\ >Vampyre Cat ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 15:30:17 -0500 From: "John D." Subject: Re: Love, Hate, yadda yadda yadda... Right on! I feel the same way. Circle of Power's guitar part was especially fun to figure out by listening to it. ---------- > From: Like Suicide > To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Love, Hate, yadda yadda yadda... > Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 22:19:35 -0500 > >Well, the geocities mail server decided to finally get it's butt back >online, so here I am with the task of soaking in all the info about this >thread which I found rather interesting. > >There are some SG songs which I like right away, and continue to like them, >and will always like them..such as Beyond the Wheel, Overfloater, S & B, >etc.. > >Then there are some songs which at first glance I don't necessarily like >them at first, but they do tend to grow on me, and I can usually pick out >points in the song which just make it unique and worth listening too... > >Circle of Power - yeah, most people don't seem to like it, and I could also >do without without Hiro screaming away, but if you listen to the guitars >behind the screaming, you'll find the song kicks alot of ass. Kim has a >great riff which explodes into a fill which just blows me away everytime. > >Little Joe - yeah, it is better live, nuff said. > >Ty Cobb - eh, it'd be better without the mandolins... > >And I don't remember who it was (maybe Jamie the somms mom? I may be wrong >on this), but I remember somebody saying most of the stuff on UMOK was >pretty bad. Well, I'd really have to disagree here, I think some of their >greatest stuff is in this ablum, Beyond the Wheel being obvious, but >Flower, All Your Lies, 667, Head Injury, Incessant Mace, they are just >such great powerful songs... > >Anyway enough rambling now and back to the drudgery that is highschool.... > >Larry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 15:47:54 -0500 From: "John D." Subject: Re: The SG/Rugrats Connection That's really funky!!!!!! ---------- > From: Elric&Dagny > To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: The SG/Rugrats Connection > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:52:47 -0400 > >Hi guys! > >Have any of you ever seen Rugrats on Nickelodeon? It's probably my >daughter's favorite show. Actually it's really good and funny; they put >in alot of adult jokes too. Anyway, all the music is done by Mark >Mothersbaugh. Do you recognize that name? He's the guy from Devo, and >he wrote Girl U Want. You'll see his name on the SOMMS credits. So >there's a SG reference. Wait, it gets even better! Last week there was >an episode where Chuckie (the wimpy kid) hit his head and Anjelica (the >evil brat) told him that he was going to become a rhinocerous because he >was growing a horn on his head. (She's so bad!) Since the characters >are babies, they don't always pronounce things right. Tommy (the star) >went around the whole show telling Chuckie that it would be OK even if >he did turn into a RHINOSAUR!!! I couldn't believe it! I can't even >count how many times he said the word rhinosaur. This cartoon would >have been made pre-DOTU. Did SG watch Rugrats? Exactly where did they >come up with that song name? ;) I found it kind of funny anyway. > >Life Rules! >Dagny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 15:47:10 -0500 From: "John D." Subject: Re: The SG/Rugrats Connection That's pretty funky!!!! ---------- > From: Elric&Dagny > To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: The SG/Rugrats Connection > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:52:47 -0400 > >Hi guys! > >Have any of you ever seen Rugrats on Nickelodeon? It's probably my >daughter's favorite show. Actually it's really good and funny; they put >in alot of adult jokes too. Anyway, all the music is done by Mark >Mothersbaugh. Do you recognize that name? He's the guy from Devo, and >he wrote Girl U Want. You'll see his name on the SOMMS credits. So >there's a SG reference. Wait, it gets even better! Last week there was >an episode where Chuckie (the wimpy kid) hit his head and Anjelica (the >evil brat) told him that he was going to become a rhinocerous because he >was growing a horn on his head. (She's so bad!) Since the characters >are babies, they don't always pronounce things right. Tommy (the star) >went around the whole show telling Chuckie that it would be OK even if >he did turn into a RHINOSAUR!!! I couldn't believe it! I can't even >count how many times he said the word rhinosaur. This cartoon would >have been made pre-DOTU. Did SG watch Rugrats? Exactly where did they >come up with that song name? ;) I found it kind of funny anyway. > >Life Rules! >Dagny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 15:50:51 -0500 From: "John D." Subject: Re: religion/silly event at school Sorry for the error... -John ---------- > From: "John D." > To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: religion/silly event at school > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 15:39:21 -0500 > > Hey! Now there is some intelligent insight. If I may also add, since >Chris Cornell was raised Catholic, as was I, the images, words and way of >life sketch out what kind of (ethic) person you are(As in any religon) thus >using God in your music grabs ones attention I belive. It makes the songs >larger than life. >-John >---------- >> From: Tiffany Saint >> To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >> Subject: religion/silly event at school >> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:26:34 -0700 >> >>Disclaimer: the views expressed are not necessarily in touch with >>reality, nor are they necessarily interesting to read. >> >>1. Since christian iconic symbolism is so prevalent in Western >> culture/American culture, it's not really suprising that Chris Cornell >> appropriates christian imagery for his lyrics. Just because >> Chris Cornell uses christian symbolism doesn't mean he still >> considers himself a christian. His responses in interviews indicate >> that he does not use the imagery to, for example, defend >> christianity or even to criticize religion. It's possible that he >> chooses the symbols (jesus christ pose, holy water, heretic, hand >> of god, etc) because of their evocative power rather than for >> their religous significance. >> >>2. A guy I had in a class a whole year ago came up to me and asked >> me how I felt about "the breakup". I thought it was cool he >> remembered how I love soundgarden when he didn't even remember my >> name. >> >>l8r >> >>Tiffany >> >> >> >>/\/\^^/\/\ >>Vampyre Cat ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 17:07:06 -0400 From: Jenny Grover Subject: words from 'a grump' I just got the new issue of Guitar magazine (Keith Richards cover) and thought you all might enjoy the brief Wellwater Conspiracy article contained within (there's a nice color picture, too). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ None Dare Call It Soundgarden by Tom Gogola --Guitar October 1997 "My name is Zeb. Ben Shepherd doesn't exist on this album, and that's the way it should be. People should hear it for what it is, and not for who is playing on it." That's Ben Shepherd, bassist for the now-defunct Soundgarden, doing a slow-burn about being outed by Guitar World as the singer on Declaration of Conformity (Third Gear), the debut album by Wellwater Conspiracy. With Soundgarden cohort Matt Cameron playing guitar on a Syd Barrett cover and contributing vocals on a few other tracks, this psychedelic meltdown is the first post-breakup release by any of the Soundgarden members. The Conspiracy came together when former Monster Magnet guitarist John McBain asked Shepherd and Cameron to perform on some tracks he'd written. "The thing about John's songs that I liked," says Shepherd, "is that I hear the melodies immediately. I don't like any of my singing, but most people don't like what they do, anyway." But Shepherd clearly enjoyed being in Soundgarden, one of the most successful bands of the grunge decade. What's life like now for him? "I usually don't answer my phone anymore, and nobody's called, anyway. I'm trying not to plan anything for the time being. I'm not glad, or sad, or anything. It's all hollow. I'm going to rewire my house so it doesn't burn down, then set up a studio so I don't have to leave except to get the newspaper. I'm a grump." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...and there you have it. Jen Grover ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 18:33:54 -0400 From: Arie Elmaleh Subject: Greatest Hits article Hey guys,=20 Here's an article that I found about the greatest hits album that's supposedly coming out. Michelle *************************************************************************= *** ************** A Soundgarden greatest hits album is slated for a tentative Nov. 4 relea = se on A&M Records. The not- yet- titled album will feature songs from their Sub Pop and SST albums, as well as their hits on A&M. In addition, the album will include previously unreleased B-side material, according to a spokesperson for the band.=20 =A0=A0 Meanwhile, the first project to come from Soundgarden lead singer = Chris Cornell after the band's breakup in April (allstar, April 9) will be a cover of the Catholic hymn "Ave Maria" for the holiday benefit album A Ve= ry Special Christmas 3, due Oct. 7 on A&M. He recorded the song with the seminal L.A. band Eleven. Cornell will also contribute "Sunshower" to the Great Expectations soundtrack, which also features Tori Amos, Scott Weiland, Pulp, and others. A release date for his solo debut album on A&M has not been set yet. *************************************************************************= *** *************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 07:05:44 -1200 From: Kris Subject: school Hello everyone! I just wanted to ask who lived in the New England area. I live in Kingston, MA, next to Plymouth. If you do, and are going to High School, where? I go to Boston College High School. I transferred in from Silver Lake Regional High School this year. I think that BC is for the typical "Kyle Petty, Son of Richard" type kids. It sucks. Here I am, an endangered species in BC. SOMEONE who's life is music. Everyone else is like an asshole. "Look at that fag over there. He likes Soundgarden. heheheheh! They suck. 2-pac would take them all on." I hate people like that. Then their attitude gets way out of hand if you say something back to them. "Hey, at least SG actually has talent" It's not like rapping is fuckin' hard. A one pitched voice, speaking lyrics with no feeling, and about killing people. How fucked up is that. Man, I hate BC. Kris Hermansen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 19:14:56 -0400 From: Nadia Standard Subject: 1998 in soundgarden's future? yes, I know you all missed me, but school is just to hectic....eww, economics! Anyway, I do have a purpose here. Does anyone know if there is going to be a 1998 Soundgarden calendar? It would be logical knowing that after Nirvana came to it's tragic end, that they still continued making calendars and such. Don't you think? I went to a snowboard shop the other day looking at all these new snowboards (little tomboy me) and stumbled across a 90 shirt that looked exactly like Chris' in the Fell on Black Days Video. So, today, I wear it with pride with my official Chris Cornell fatigue pants....don't ask. ALIVE IN THE SUPERUNKNOWN RULES!!!! But, how do you get out of that game???? What I really learned in school.... Soundgarden - Landscaping! The original pretty noose ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 19:30:22 -0400 From: rita Subject: that damn christmas album! for those of you that were worried that Chris is appearing on an album that has perviously featured the likes of Michael Bolton, maybe this can put your minds at ease ;) but sweet god, hootie and the blowfish are still there! :O ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* SMASHING PUMPKINS, NO DOUBT, STING, & OTHERS CONTRIBUTE TO CHRISTMAS ALBUM The Smashing Pumpkins, Sheryl Crow, Snoop Doggy Dogg, No Doubt, and several other artists are contributing either new Christmas songs or their versions of classic yuletide favorites to the third installment of A Very Special Christmas. The 16-track album, due Oct. 7 on A&M, benefits the Special Olympics, as did the previous two. Some of the highlights of the album include the new song from the Smashing Pumpkins called "Christmastime" and an all-star hip-hop collaboration on "Santa Baby" featuring Puff Daddy, Snoop Doggy Dogg, Salt-N-Pepa, Onyx, Keith Murray, and Mase under the moniker Rev Run & the Christmas All-Stars. The album was executive- produced by A&M president Al Cafaro, his wife Linda Feder, and Bobby Shriver, brother of the president of Special Olympics, Tim Shriver. A Very Special Christmas 3 track listing: Sting, "I Saw Three Ships" The Smashing Pumpkins, "Christmastime" Natalie Merchant, "Children Go Where I Send Thee" Reverend Run & the Christmas All-Stars featuring Mase, Puff Daddy, Snoop Doggy Dogg, Salt-N-Pepa, Onyx, and Keith Murray, "Santa Baby" No Doubt, "Oi to the World" Sheryl Crow, "Blue Christmas" Blues Traveler, "Christmas" Enya, "Oiche Chiun" ("Silent Night") Hootie & the Blowfish, "The Christmas Song" Chris Cornell and Eleven, "Ave Maria" Mary J. Blige featuring Angie Martinez, "Christmas in the City" Jonny Lang, "Santa Claus Is Back in Town" Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds, "Christmas Song" Steve Winwood, "Christmas Is Now Drawing Near at Hand" Tracy Chapman, "O Holy Night" Patti Smith, "We Three Kings" ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* oh cut my throat! was this not Soundgarden related enough? ;) ~rita ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 09:46:30 +1000 From: Cronky Subject: Never seen the light of day... Hey supersomms, If there is going to be unreleased stuff on the Tribute if/when it comes out, it could contain these two songs: 'A Broom' 'How Should I Know?' They are mentioned in the book 'New Metal Crown' as never having seen the light of day, but they were demoed for 'BadMotorFinger', and apparently they are really cool songs. Has anyone heard them? I wouldn't think so because it says that the band is still in posession of the tape, but I wonder does that mean A&M would have a copy, or access to a copy? Hmmm. Oh well, just a thought. Cronky. ---------------------------------------------- - Simon Cronk (Cronky) - - E-mail: scronk@ecr.mu.oz.au - - http://www.ecr.mu.oz.au/~scronk/ - - SOUNDGARDEN & POWDERFINGER - - RULE FOREVER - ---------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 19:12:17 -0500 From: Barbarba Strong Subject: that interpretation thing I don't think so much that we can say a song is specifically about this or that, but more so what they mean to us and how we personally interpret them and the feelings or emotions that they incite in us as individuals. Slaves and Bulldozers is a perfect example in that a year ago when I listened to it, it had a completely different meaning for me than it does now, and that all just has to with where I am in my life and the shit that's going on. Same with Drawing Flies, Mind Riot, Mailman, Pretty Noose... I could go on and on. And then there are the songs that we know, because we've heard the band's explanations, what they mean. But still, even though I know Chris wrote Like Suicide about a bird that crashed into a wall in his living room that he had to put out of misery with a cynder block, it doesn't mean that to me. Fourth of July isn't about an acid trip to me. I won't bore you with details of how I interpret these songs, it's very personal to me anyway, but I just though! t ! I'd put my two cents in. Feel fr ee to interpret away... Barbara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 20:35:45 -0400 From: "Freer, Nicole A." Subject: mind riot: song of the century Hello somms! it's niki, i'm on my computer at school, so this will be a strange address. hopefully this will go through to you guys... Justin... man, you are more than a genius. I just read the whole Mind Riot Song of the Month review. Seth- great pick. Justin- you nearly made me cry. First off, this is my favorite Soundgarden song, i do believe i've finally realized that fact. it has an effect on me like nothing i've ever encountered before- be it song, human, book, poem, whatever- and i get so much more than choked up every time i listen. this song, to me, hits right in the dead of my heart. it strikes that cord in you that makes you sit on your bed in a daze, not believing what you've just heard coming from your speakers, and just stare into space for the entire duration of the song. jesus christ, the feeling felt like i was going to die, it was that strong. I do believe this song was what caused me to think that SG were truly musical genuises and were going to be stuck in my heart forever. I just could not even understand how one man, one single person, write such a beautiful piece of music like this. and beautiful can't even encompass what it really is. there just isn't a word strong enough. there's so much inside this song... it just makes me feel so special for having the chance to hear something like this. priviledged that chris cornell decided to share it with the general population. if i could ever capture something like that in words, in music, in emotion... i don't think i'd ever be unhappy again. I know i'm rambling, babbling on like a lovesick puppy, but after reading Justin's review, i just totally re-realized what the song meant to me, how much it affects me. See, i can't even get my feelings out here. I write a lot, plan on writing for the rest of my life, no matter what it is i do, but I lose touch of my words when I get so deeply touched by another persons writing. and i also write ridiculously long run-ons that don't make any sense. = ) so sorry if i made no sense, and sorry for babbling like an idiot, but i more than appreciated this months song of the month. you guys really touched me this time. = ) thanks. mind riot ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 11:44:14 EST From: Saskia Becher Subject: My first Soundgarden moment Well I had my first Soundgarden moment yesterday.. yup I'm a moment virgin no longer ;) I was watching a tv show called the Naked Truth when the one of the stars (Tea Leoni) was talking to her boss about changing his image. He had grown a small under-lip goatee and she wanted to know where he got the idea and he looked in a magazine and said 'I really like the look of those Soundvision guys' and she said 'Thats Soundgarden' and he said ' Soundgarden beergarden whatever' And that my friends, was it. The first time I have ever heard Soundgarden mentioned on a tv show out of the music context. Woohoo! Aahhhh I feel better. :) Sassy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 19:52:00 -0700 From: Laurie Casey Subject: Harassment and other things Hello everyone.. I was at guitar lessons yesterday when I realized that I'm subject to harassment every week. You see, it's rather apparent that I'm a SG freak (as most o us are, or so it seems..) So it figures that April 15th Steve and Andy would say something. I didn't expect it to last this long! I walk in the door of Helmers and the first thing I hear is "Hey, did you hear they broke up?" And that got a little boring for Andy (who isn't even my teacher!) so it's evolved to things such as "Hey, I hear Chris and Michael Bolton formed a band.." and yesterday was the worst. "Hey, do you loike Star Wars? Cuz Chris reminds me of Chewbacca, and that other one (Matt) looks like Luke Skywalker..." It doesn't really bother me, because it's all in good fun... but in the middle of learning Head Injury (which is really hard to play!) Andy popped his head inthe door and he and Steve started a back and forth improv thing, that went something like this. Andy: "Hey, did you hear they got back together?" Steve: "Oh yeah, I head that yesterday!" Me: "Mmmhmm. whatever you say, Andy." Andy: "It's true! They're back together!" Steve: "you didn't hear, Andy?" Andy: "What?" Steve: "They broke up this morning." Andy: "Again?" Steve: "Yeah." Andy "Losers." And he left. Next time I'm just gonna tell him off. It's been, what, almost 5 months now? ANyway.. I knew I had smoething else to say... oh! At school today, in Art. I fell subject (yet again) to stupid people! We're suposed to draw symbols that represent us and all this stuff that I wont bore you with. So me, like any fan, draws the SG symbol thing. (The one on the Ultramega vinyl and the Pretty Noose disk.. and all over Seth's page..) As soon as this guy (unfortunatly named Chris..) spots hit he goes: "Whoa! A Nazi sign! Cool!" So of course the whole class has to have a look and now they think I'm a nazi or something. No one believed my explination, or if they did they think that SG are nazi's too. And you wouldn't believe the amount of things that I hear about my fork! "Is that a fork?" "It that some sex sign?" "Do you eat with that?" "Are you going to kill someone withthat thing?" "Are you like a cannible?" Jesus Christ! Well.. that's my post of the week, so I made it good and long. Pardon my frustrations! Arden, Sun God (Laurie) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 19:57:38 -0700 From: Laurie Casey Subject: Re: The SG/Rugrats Connection Theres one more really scary thing I noticed about Rugrats... I was coloring on my friends little sister's rugrats card thing...and I colored Chuckie's hair black... he looks like a little Chris!! Otherwise the otes resemble Gwen (Angelica) and Billy Corgan (Tommy)but I wont get into that, since this is a SG list, and I don't want to start up the whole Chris/Billy shit again. Anyway, just my thoughts! Arden, Sun God (Laurie) > Hi guys! > > Have any of you ever seen Rugrats on Nickelodeon? It's probably my > daughter's favorite show. Actually it's really good and funny; they put > in alot of adult jokes too. Anyway, all the music is done by Mark > Mothersbaugh. Do you recognize that name? He's the guy from Devo, and > he wrote Girl U Want. You'll see his name on the SOMMS credits. So > there's a SG reference. Wait, it gets even better! Last week there was > an episode where Chuckie (the wimpy kid) hit his head and Anjelica (the > evil brat) told him that he was going to become a rhinocerous because he > was growing a horn on his head. (She's so bad!) Since the characters > are babies, they don't always pronounce things right. Tommy (the star) > went around the whole show telling Chuckie that it would be OK even if > he did turn into a RHINOSAUR!!! I couldn't believe it! I can't even > count how many times he said the word rhinosaur. This cartoon would > have been made pre-DOTU. Did SG watch Rugrats? Exactly where did they > come up with that song name? ;) I found it kind of funny anyway. > > Life Rules! > Dagny ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 13:20:22 +1000 From: Robert Joseph Hutchinson Subject: Re: My first Soundgarden moment i had the same moment, you must be in australia too, not that it was that amazing. Maybe we can all have more of these moments when the guys are older and less popular and can make cameo appearances or something. > Well I had my first Soundgarden moment yesterday.. yup I'm a moment > virgin no longer ;) I was watching a tv show called the Naked Truth > when the one of the stars (Tea Leoni) was talking to her boss about > changing his image. He had grown a small under-lip goatee and she > wanted to know where he got the idea and he looked in a magazine and > said 'I really like the look of those Soundvision guys' and she said > 'Thats Soundgarden' and he said ' Soundgarden beergarden whatever' > And that my friends, was it. The first time I have ever heard > Soundgarden mentioned on a tv show out of the music context. Woohoo! > Aahhhh I feel better. :) > > Sassy while im here thought id mention another idea for a thread. while i was reading back digests of somms, (or maybe it was CV-the fnm/bungle list) people posted their top ten albums / bands of all time. it may not seem SG related but its interesting to see what other music others listen to and it may get you onto some great new music! which can't be all bad. it may or may not include SG albums. might incite some of that old zest and flaming. as for me here goes in no particular order not including SG. * stone temple pilots - core * Faith No More - the real thing * Faith No More - album of the year * nirvana - nevermind * metallica - black album * Alice in Chains - dirt * Black Sabbath - paranoid * pennywise - full circle * The Tea Party - transmission * The Crow soundtrack as for SG, its badmotorfinger and superunknown, although i like them all. call me a commercialist scumbag if you will maybe this will pick up, maybe not, anyway rob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 20:31:01 PDT From: Matt Busse Subject: Ultramega OK I just bought Ultramega OK this week, and on about track 6, it's supposed to be Circle of Power, and it's not. Can anyone tell me what the track before Circle of Power is? Thanks. *********************************************** Words you say Never seem to live up to the ones inside your head Soundgarden ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 00:25:49 -0400 From: CL Miller Subject: rarified can anyone give me a listing of the "songs that weren't"? meaning songs that were meant to be on albums but were cut. i remember ben saying in an interview that there are generally around 25 songs for an album and they are cut from there. correct me if i'm wrong, but i think that "flutter girl" was to be on SU and "christi","karaoke", "kyle petty, son of richard" were to be on DOTU. what else for these albums or others. p.s. seth, this might make a neat little trivia section for the site! :) tanx chris -- Philosophical Issue of the Day If you and I both look at a stop sign and agree that it is the color "red", how can you be sure that we are both seeing the same color? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 22:19:15 PDT From: The Koggle Subject: the Wing'd Vermin livvvvveess on the subject of the greatest hits album and A&M's authority in it.. Vermin wondered who has the rights to 'hunted down' and some of the earlier songs.. does anyone know? or is it all in A&Ms hands now.. [note : Vermin will be back as soon as she get's her e-mail fixed] ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 10 Sep 1997 to 11 Sep 1997 ************************************************