Date:     Fri, 10 Oct 1997 02:00:05 -0400
Subject:  SOMMS Digest - 9 Oct 1997 to 10 Oct 1997

There are 14 messages totalling 546 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Cornell, Chris Cornell
  2. Great Chicago Expectations
  3. arena rockers: Sam Perkins and Chris Cornell in new RS.. (2)
  4. Ave Maria (2)
  5. even more on Hater
  6. new Truly
  7. disturbed.... (2)
  8. rock n' roll Cornell / Hater+WWC
  9. bittersweet symphony
 10. Stuff of Late...
 11. Stone Gossard on Soundgarden

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Date:    Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:04:36 -0500
From:    "B. Kinser" <bkinser@BLUE.WEEG.UIOWA.EDU>
Subject: Cornell, Chris Cornell

I heard a snippet of news last week, where I can't really remember.  maybe
it was Mtv news or something.  But anyways, I seem to remember hearing
Chris Cornells' name mentioned in conjunction with the new James Bond
movie coming out this winter.  Has anyone else heard anything like this?
I could be totally off base and don't want to start any rumors, but I
swear I heard this.  Maybe he is contributing a cut to the soundtrack?

BK

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Date:    Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:49:04 -0500
From:    tonerkin <tonerkin@PIPELINE.COM>
Subject: Great Chicago Expectations

At 10:04 AM 10/9/97 -0500, you wrote:
 > Maybe he is contributing a cut to the soundtrack?
   Yes, Chris is suppose to have a cut on the James Bond film..saw the
preview for it but the music was all very James Bondish if you know what I
mean.
 On a similar note I saw the trailer for Great Expectations the other
night. It is not actually Charles Dickens in a sense of period of
time(maybe the story line is I'm not sure) Gwenyth Pantrow and Ethan Hawke
playing modern people.  No, Chris and Eleven that I heard but I can see his
music being used in this. Out at Christmas it said.  I had visions of a
period piece when I first heard about it and that is what threw me off.  Of
course now that we know CC can sing Olde English what the hell..... the
Beowulf soundtrack might be next!!

  A side note!   Any Chicago area sommsters.....Saturday October 11th
Gingerman Tavern. 3740 N. Clark(next to Metro/Smart Bar) a mini SOMMSfest
around 5pm. Come on down and met fellow Soundgarden fans.  Entertainment
provided by a cage match between Kim(a former Chicago boy) and Billy C
(representing the Lakeview neighborhood) Free drinks, lavish buffet, the
Pretty Noose dancing girl.  And 3 hour reunion concert by the late great
Soundgarden!!...............................................................
...
OK, so I'm a lying sack of shit. I bet I had a few of you checking flight
schedules to Chicago!!!    The only truthful thing I said is we are having
a mini SOMMSfest and all are invited.  NO FREE Drinks unless you are medium
Joe and still think I owe you a beer!!   For more info e-mail me!!!   toni

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Date:    Thu, 9 Oct 1997 15:38:59 EDT
From:    saperl@ALUM.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: arena rockers: Sam Perkins and Chris Cornell in new RS..

On 10/8/97, Vince revealed his feelings for Chris:
> Wow. On page 17 of the latest Rolling Stone, there is a recent picture of
> Chris Cornell with Sam Perkins of the Seattle Supersonics. This has to be
> the coolest picture of Cornell in recent memory. He looks like a fucking
> rock star..hair slicked back, Ray-bans on, etc. He looks better than I
> have ever seen him. Seth, or anyone else, scan this pic please. Thanks for
> reading.

The scan of that photo went up on the website last night - shame on
all of you for not visiting every hour to check for updates.

The photo of mini-Chris next to Sam Perkins can be found at
http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/images/rs103097.jpg, courtesy of Andrew
Snodgrass.

-seth

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Date:    Thu, 9 Oct 1997 16:17:47 EDT
From:    Nvrnamd1 <Nvrnamd1@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Ave Maria

ok, i havent been on in a while so i have 2 really dumb questions: #1 what
album is ave maria on? (please give the exact name so ill know what to ask
for)  #2 when is chris's solo album comming out? does anyone know what its
gonna be called? oh yeah, just to add a third question: will i be able to get
these albums at any cd store, or do i have to find an indy store?

dana

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Date:    Thu, 9 Oct 1997 15:42:55 -0500
From:    Geoff <gkleemol@CALLISTO.UWINNIPEG.CA>
Subject: even more on Hater

I've been reading the thread about Hater for the past few days, but I
haven't felt up to responding.  But my rubella is finally clearing up,
so it's time I spoke.  From August 27th to Sept 5th I had an incredible
adventure in Seattle.  This included taking in the first and possibly
last Wellwater Conspiracy show, and possibly the last Hater show.  And
when I thought my holiday could not get any better, I end up sitting at
the bar talking to Ben Shepherd.  I ended up having a pretty long
conversation with him;  I won't go into most of the details, because it
was a private conversation.  But it is true that Ben told me that I had
witnessed the last Hater show and the one and only Wellwater show.  He
told me both bands had broken up.  I was obviously stunned at his
revelation.  I didn't pressure him for details, though maybe I should
have, or could have.  He also told me he wasn't playing for Devilhead
anymore, but I think that was old news already -- the person running the
Devilhead website had known for a while.  Some other sommsters I talked
to had me believe Ben was putting me on.  And I suppose it's possible,
but he was looking directly into my eyes with a completely serious look
when he said it.  So anyway, that's all I know.
Geoff

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Date:    Thu, 9 Oct 1997 16:12:44 -0400
From:    Anna Mehrer <anna.mehrer@TELEKOMUS.COM>
Subject: Re: arena rockers: Sam Perkins and Chris Cornell in new RS..

Owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! OW ow ow owwwwwwwwwwww!!!

Can't you see I howl for thee?
Oh Chris, your smirk--forever lurks
On feeble brains and mirrored eyes.
Let's rub bellies...and play basketball.

OK-another image-inspired poem. Haven't seen these for a while.... I've =
strapped it on and published my mess--how 'bout you?

Literary un-goddess,
Anna
hehehe.
__________________________________________________________________________=
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The photo of mini-Chris next to Sam Perkins can be found at
http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/images/rs103097.jpg, courtesy of Andrew
Snodgrass.

-seth

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Date:    Thu, 9 Oct 1997 16:32:22 -0400
From:    Jenny Grover <sleeveless@CITYNET.NET>
Subject: new Truly

The new Truly album 'Feel You Up' is slated for release Oct. 21, on
Thick Records.  That's all I know right now, no ordering info yet, and
Thick doesn't have a web page.

Jen

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Date:    Thu, 9 Oct 1997 17:00:28 -0400
From:    Matt Artis <SpoOnArTis@AOL.COM>
Subject: disturbed....

I have been thinking about what Kim said about the A-Sides, and Hater and
Wellwater breaking up....and I'm feelin pretty depressed bout it.  I think
that we may be learning more now about the boys true character than ever
before.  If Kim really meant what he said.....I mean I hate to say this...but
mabye they really were in it for the money and not for the fans.  i know
Chris said that he would never let music turn into a money-making machine (or
sumpin like that) but that could have changed.  Why would Kim ever go for the
A-Sides album???  That really kills me.  I dunno....I can just picture Ben
all morbid in a bar....Kim swimming in his money...damn.  I hope I am
wrong........

~Matt

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Date:    Thu, 9 Oct 1997 16:58:06 -0400
From:    "Freer, Nicole A." <NF277679@WCUPA.EDU>
Subject: rock n' roll Cornell / Hater+WWC

seth wrote:
>
>The photo of mini-Chris next to Sam Perkins can be found at
>http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/images/rs103097.jpg, courtesy of Andrew
>Snodgrass.


shame shame on us.
 but really, what is with the wife-beater and the open shirt???? And
reflective sunglasses??? that little rock-star, biker-punk pose??? who
else out there thinks he looks eeriely like Skeet Ulrich (from
"Scream")??? You know, the one with the greasy hair and the goatee *just
like that*??? = )

<just kidding everyone, but he really does look like ulrich and
semi-navarro>

 no everyone go put Ave Maria in your CD player and listen to it playing
while looking at that picture of Chris. isn't is the most ridiculous
thing? = ) i love it, he is just too funny sometimes, that chris. But he
looks good, yes. he's putting back on some weight it seems. it's good to
see him looking back in good health after that last go-round with
soundgarden... the rest most certianly has done him much good. keep it
up chris!

one more thing::::::
as for what Geoff just said about Ben and his bands... should it be true
(not doubting you Geoff, doubting Ben and futivly wishing) then that is
really sad. i can't believe that all these remarkable bands are just
dissipating into the wind. it seems like every time i settle down into
something i like, it gets snatched up from under me. damn the music
scene.

mind riot

ps- and i was so happy because a local college station played Hater and
WWC today, and actually knew what they were talking about. = (

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Date:    Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:31:15 -0500
From:    Vince Varkey <varkey@UTDALLAS.EDU>
Subject: bittersweet symphony

"On 10/8/97, Vince revealed his feelings for Chris: "

Ok Seth..you got me. I want the man. Hey, there ain't nothing wrong with a
man loving another man, right? Right? Anyone? <crickets chirping in the
background>

Seriously, I think the reason I really like this pic is simply because
it's a whole new look for him and I think it rocks. Let's see..we had the
long haired Chris, the shaved head Chris, the Superunknown Chris, The
Wolfman Chris (SNL anyone?), and now we have the Dave Navarro Chris. He
looks like he is in his mid-20's in that pic. It's the kind of picture
that makes you say "Damn, I want to be *you* when I grow up.."

I heard Ave Maria today. Interesting piece of work. I wouldn't recommend
buying the whole cd but his one song is quite good. Chris's voice sounds
deeper than I have ever heard it..so much so that it didn't sound like him
at first. But it's a very strong assertive voice and has a *very* opera-like
feel to it. It's hard to describe in words. But it is very good. The whole
production of the song was good actually. I wish there was some way I
could just buy a single for Ave Maria and not the rest of the album.

Wow, if you think about it, this is a big week in SG-related land. Chris's
first post-SG work is released, he gets his new look or whatever you want
to call it, and now we have the breakup of not only Hater but the
Wellwater Conspiracy, if the rumors are true. I really liked Hater too.
Such a shame, knowing that they were in production on their next album and
everything. Does anyone have any more facts about the breakups?

Bring the noise..

-vince

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Date:    Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:43:04 -0500
From:    Vince Varkey <varkey@UTDALLAS.EDU>
Subject: Re: disturbed....

I really wouldn't let one or two statements change your entire opinion
about Thayil like you seem to be doing. I understand how you feel however.
This greatest hits thing rubbed me wrong from the get go. I tend to take
his statements with a grain of salt though. What was he supposed to say?
That A-Sides was going to suck? He, probably by default, was elected the
spokesperson for the album so he can't sit there and bash it. He
unfortunately has to give the company line. It sucks but that's just the
way it turned out this time around. Give Kim some credit. I would venture
a guess and say that Kim is definitely not the money-hungry person your
statements make him out to be.

Thank you, come again..

-vince


On Thursday, 9 Oct 1997, Matt Artis wrote:

> I have been thinking about what Kim said about the A-Sides, and Hater and
> Wellwater breaking up....and I'm feelin pretty depressed bout it.  I think
> that we may be learning more now about the boys true character than ever
> before.  If Kim really meant what he said.....I mean I hate to say this...but
> mabye they really were in it for the money and not for the fans.  i know
> Chris said that he would never let music turn into a money-making machine (or
> sumpin like that) but that could have changed.  Why would Kim ever go for the
> A-Sides album???  That really kills me.  I dunno....I can just picture Ben
> all morbid in a bar....Kim swimming in his money...damn.  I hope I am
> wrong........
>
> ~Matt
>

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Date:    Thu, 9 Oct 1997 22:19:05 -0500
From:    Like Suicide <luinie@GEOCITIES.COM>
Subject: Stuff of Late...

Wow, alot has happened in the past week, rumors of Hater/WWC breakup, Chris
singing Ave Maria (heard the real audio clip, haven't heard the whole song
yet, and yeah, Chris does sound cool), just a pretty busy week in the
post-SG realm. Anyway, is it just me or does it sound like Chris is doing
alot of Soundtrack stuff? I really hope he doesn't become a 'soundtrack
only' guy. Anyway, hopefully we'll see the solo album eventually. As for
Hater and WWC breaking up..I dunno, the only thing I can think of, maybe
the guys of SG and such are just alittle burned out? They were doing this
whole gig for over ten years...that's a long time. I'd say we see something
alittle more permenant from them again in the future, maybe by next
year...Anyway, kinda depressing that Hater would break up..

Rambling,

Larry

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Date:    Thu, 9 Oct 1997 23:21:02 -0400
From:    rita <yu166423@YORKU.CA>
Subject: Stone Gossard on Soundgarden

sorry sorry sorry if this was posted already (i'm on the digest), but i
just read an article in yesterday's paper (Toronto Sun) and stoney makes a
comment or 2 about our boys:

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Speaking of which, Gossard, who is also pals with the now
defunct Soundgarden, says he can't enlighten the masses about
what individual members are up to, but fans shouldn't despair.
"I couldn't tell you anything about that. I'm friends with those guys. I
don't really quiz them about what's going on. I know they've broken up.
I'm sure they're doing music. I think there'll be music from that camp at
some point."
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

not much...but you know, something.
au revoir.

                ~rita

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Date:    Fri, 10 Oct 1997 00:16:36 -0500
From:    Mayor McCheese <beyera@MHD1.MOORHEAD.MSUS.EDU>
Subject: Ave Maria

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It's been awhile since I had something to say but here goes it:

        I liked chris's version of Ave Maria but it sounds too . . .
"synthetic".  I don't know how to explain it but the sythesizers make it
sound too clean, "early 80's clean" . . . My friends and I all agree it
sounds like Klaus Nomi (without the falsetto :) )  Chris does a good job
with the vocals and Natasha's harmonies really bring out Chris's voice
alot but . . . the music itself sounds too dramtic and and, dare i say
it, fake (very Klaus) check out http://www.utu.fi/%7Elausto/nomi.html
Thank God Chris doesn't sing it like the vibrato voiced old ladies who
sing in church (laughing)!  Next time, get a real orchestra please
Chris.

        The other things that bothers me:

        1) Chris on an album with Enya, Sting, and Steve Winwood
                I hope his career isn't going in "that" direction
                I'm a big Sting fan but . . . yikes!
        2) Song 9 by Hootie and the Blowfish | Song 10 Chris Cornell
                w/ Eleven

Well, it's for charity, and a good one at that so . . . I cant'
complain, but sometimes I still do . . .

Mayor McCheese
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<H1>Klaus Nomi</H1>
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<B>1944-1983</B> <P>
"Looks like an alien from outer space and sounds even weirder" <P><HR>

<a href=http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbsign.dbm?owner=nomiguestbook>Sign the
 Guestbook</a>. It will be a place where Klaus Nomi fans may find each
 other.<BR>
<a href=http://www.Lpage.com/wgb/wgbview.dbm?owner=nomiguestbook>View the
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<A HREF=http://www.utu.fi/~lausto/forsale.html>!NEW! Nomi's records for
 sale</A><HR>

Klaus Nomi was a countertenor and baryton singer who sang both opera and <BR>
rock'n'roll. He was a great singer and a funny guy but he's remembered <BR>
mostly because he died. He was the first celebrity who died of AIDS. <P> <P>

<H3>A short biography:</H3>
Klaus Nomi was born in Germany in 1944. His real name was Klaus Sperber.
<BR>
In his youth he worked as an usher at the Deutsche Oper in Berlin and
would <BR>
imitate such singers as Elvis Presley and Maria Callas. He didn't get to <BR>
the Deutsche Oper as a singer. He got depressed and went to New York.There he
<BR>
first had a job as a pastry chef at the World Trade Center and later <BR>
formed a freelance baking company but sang in rock clubs too.<BR>
Then he met David Bowie who asked him and Joey Arias to sing with him in<BR>
the Saturday Night Live TV show. Nomi and Arias sang backing vocals on<BR>
Bowie's songs "The Man Who Sold the World", "TVC15" and "Boys Keep
Swinging".<BR>
After that Nomi got a lot of gigs. He made his records in the early<BR>
eighties and died of AIDS August 6th 1983<P><HR><BR>
<A HREF=http://www.utu.fi/~lausto/aam.html>More biographical information
and that kind of stuff from the book <BR>
"Art After Midnight: The East Village Scene" by Steven Hager</A> <BR><HR><BR>
<A HREF=http://www.utu.fi/~lausto/kno.html>An obituary written by Kristian
 Hoffman</A><BR><HR><BR>
<A HREF=http://www.utu.fi/~lausto/attitude.html>An article by Rupert Smith from
 Attitude</A><BR><HR><BR><A
 HREF=http://www.mediopolis.de/videofest/ex/ex14.html>Cold Genius</A>, a
 multimedia opera of Klaus Nomi<P><HR><P>

<A HREF=http://www.utu.fi/~lausto/klausdisc.html>Discography</A><BR>
<A HREF=http://bornova.ege.edu.tr:80/~lyurga/nomi/nomi4.html>Pictures (from the
 Blue Point page)</A>


<P> <HR> <P>
!NEW! <A HREF=http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/1399/>The Klaus Nomi
 Tribute Page</A> Great photos and articles.<BR>
<A HREF="http://bornova.ege.edu.tr/~lyurga/nomi/nomi.html">the Blue Point Klaus
 Nomi page</A><BR>
<A HREF="http://www.mpae.gwdg.de/~kopp/disc">the Male
Soprano page</A>:
There's something about Nomi too.<P><P>

Watch these movies:
<UL TYPE=disc>
<LI><B>Wigstock: The Movie</B><BR>
A document from a transvestite festival featuring Joey Arias
<LI><B>Naked Gun 2 1/2</B><BR>
There's a Nomi parody (or at least I think it is)
<LI><B>A Nos Amours</B><BR>
The music of this movie is "The Cold Song" sung by Nomi<BR>
</UL><P><P>

<H3>If you like Nomi you might like</H3>
<UL TYPE=disc>
<LI><B>Henry Purcell</B><BR>
An English baroque composer. Nomi has sung some of his songs. <P>
<LI><B>Marlene Dietrich</B><BR>
Sings the original version of "Falling in Love Again" in the legendary <BR>
"Blue Angel" movie. Nomi's version is quite different. <P>
<LI><B>David Bowie</B><BR>
He's even been singing with Nomi. His space oddity things have been quite
<BR>
interesting as most of his music. <P>
<LI><B>Lou Christie</B><BR>
Nomi's version of "Lightning Strikes" is much better<BR>
than the original but Christie has some great songs.<BR>
His baryton-falsetto singing must have had a great influence to Nomi. <P>
<LI><B>The King's Singers</B><BR>
An a-cappella group that sings The Beatles as well as Orlando di Lasso.<BR>
David Hurley has the most beautiful countertenor voice of the world.
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<A HREF=mailto:lauri.storm@utu.fi>E-mail</A> to me if you are a fan or know
something about Nomi. But especially if you<BR>
<UL TYPE=disc>
<LI>have known or met Nomi or seen him in concert<BR>
<LI>have rare records or videos
<LI>know more biographical things
<LI>know something about people who play on Nomi's records <BR>
(Kristian Hoffman, Joey Arias, Julie Burgher etc.)
<LI>know who is "Anders Grafstrom"? The first Nomi record is
dedicated to his memory
<LI>have something to add to this page
</UL><BR>
Unfortunately I'm not able to send a reply to all of you. I receive so much
 mail. If I don't send you a reply and you think it would be really important,
 please repost your message.<BR>The most common question asked from me is<BR>
WHERE CAN I FIND NOMI'S RECORDS?<BR>
They aren't easy to find. I've heard that in the USA they are even harder to
 find than here in Europe. I have seen some in the biggest record stores of<BR>
London, United Kingdom (Tower Records)<BR>
Vienna, Austria<BR>
Munich, Germany<P>
<A HREF=http://www.utu.fi/~lausto/forsale.html>!NEW! Ernst's Records has some
 Klaus Nomi records for sale</A> <P> <P>

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