Date:     Sat, 29 Nov 1997 02:00:06 -0500
Subject:  SOMMS Digest - 28 Nov 1997 to 29 Nov 1997

There are 13 messages totalling 404 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. COMIN' ATCHA!
  2. STUFF
  3. Sorry Seth......
  4. Fwd: A-Sides
  5. What's wrong with me mailbox?
  6. Things that are going to stop
  7. Thank You Matt!!!
  8. Wellwater Conspiracy
  9. In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida
 10. HAPPY BDAY MR. BUNCHY PANTS!! (and other deeeeelites)
 11. ave maria!
 12. Something worthwhile....
 13. Matt's Day of Sunshower

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Date:    Fri, 28 Nov 1997 02:42:27 -0500
From:    jenny grover <sleeveless@CITYNET.NET>
Subject: COMIN' ATCHA!

Hellboy wrote:
> Here in England the Pretty Noose single contained an interview with
> SG by Eleven, any of you lot heard that? Some of it is really funny
> (Ben being reliably daft as usual, talking about his "orange
> marmalade" set of songs, how he wanted to call the album 'Comin'
> Atcha' and how 'An Unkind' is "mean on your pinky").

Actually, that was BIRTHDAY BOY MATT who said he wanted to call it
'Comin' Atcha'.  Hey Matt!  Hope a happy birthday is comin' atcha!

I'm thrilled to hear that WWC still exists, but does anyone know if Ben
is in or out?  If he's out, who's replacing him?

Jen

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Date:    Thu, 27 Nov 1997 23:48:22 -0800
From:    Jordan Snodgrass <jasnodgr@UCSD.EDU>
Subject: Re: STUFF

1) Someone said:
> I'm going to try to look at this comment
> objectively and not get insulted. But dude....
> WHAT ON EARTH ARE YOU TALKING
> ABOUT?

    Heh... they don't call me sarcasm man for nothing!@#$  And when I
use sarcasm, I try not to drench it too much.  I like it when people
don't get it.  :)  That's kind of the point.. hee hee!
    Thanks for the comments on the Balls page!  Everyone be sure to
check back occasionally.. I'll be rotating in new images now and then.
In between handling mailbombs.

2) Someone said:
> The length of the CD is 79:03. Now, this
> doesnt seem weird. But from being around a
> lot of recording EQ and knowlege of CDS.
> CD's only can hold 74 minutes of stuff. Does
> anyone know how they did this?

    Here's the answer.. this part i AM sure of... The 74 minutes is set
aside for PLAYABLE music.  By that I mean there is NON-PLAYABLE
non-track time on all CDs.  This is in the form of time before and after
the real tracks (the extreme beginning and end of disc).. it's what the
laser first scans when a CD is inserted.  This part contains the
markings and all that stuff that tells the CD player what kind of disc
it is and technical stuff none of us can understand.  Additionally,
there is the thing where in between tracks there is anywhere from 2-10
seconds of blank nothingness.  This is when, after a track, the counter
on the player goes into negative seconds and counts down to the next
track.  All of these things are not included in the 74 minute PLAYABLE
time, so often CDs go over 74 minutes.  Though it does seem odd that
this would add up to 5+ extra minutes.. but who knows, with lots of
tracks, all the extra pieces could very well add up to 5 minutes.
    Also, I'm not sure about this, but 74 may just be an accepted
standard.  It may not be set in stone.  But the consortium who developed
CDs probably labeled 74 as the "safe" length.  I'm sure someone could
try to manufacture an 80 minute CD and it MIGHT work, but you'd run into
problems.  But again, I'm not sure about this part.

    Have fun burning 80 minute CDs my friends!

--
-js
mailto:jordans@ucsd.edu
http://sdcc10.ucsd.edu/~jasnodgr/fm/

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Date:    Fri, 28 Nov 1997 02:36:28 -0800
From:    The Cat <the_cat17@JUNO.COM>
Subject: Sorry Seth......

.....this is probably the last thing you will hear of me talking about
Matt joining the Smashing Pumpkins. But I think this is an interesting
subject. First off.......

HAPPY BIRTHDAY to a Mr. MATT CAMERON!!!!!!!!!
Who turns a young 35 today!!

Back to our regulary scheduled programming:

IF there WAS the SLIGHTEST itty-bitty possibility Matt joined SP then I'm
sure Billy Corgan would be honored (who wouldn't?), because he thanked
Soundgarden's and Nirvana's music at that MTV Music Awards show in 1996.
So from that I'd say Soundgarden is either an influence or admiration of
Billy's. Even if Billy 'broke into tears' over Kim's comments he would
have Matt as SP's drummer in a second. But this will never happen because
Matt's style doesn't agree with SP's music. That's enough about that :).

Maria Joseph- I know a girl whose father used to be in a jazz band with
Matt. Flog me for not having the name of the band.....I'll have to ask
her bout that.

Hellboy- That guy 'Terence' started the 'Chris becomes Tool's Lead
Singer' rumor on the SG Fan Board. Funny :)......he even went to the
lengths of stating the exact time and date of the "announcement" in
Pacific-Eastern times (or something), which is probably why some people
bought it.......

Well, surprisingly that's it :). One last thing, Nine Inch Nails are not
techno, they are industrial. Pretty good at it too.....though some of the
lyrics on The Downward Spiral reenforce the idea that those 'Explicit
Lyrics' stickers are not just there for show.....

'Damned to the left of me Damned to the right of me Damned if I fight I'm
Damned better let it be.....'
-'Damned' by eleven

/\ /\
 'o'   -The Cat

Oh, by the way, cool Soundgarden symbol Richard!

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Date:    Fri, 28 Nov 1997 09:06:04 -0500
From:    Craig Griffith <Derfelt@AOL.COM>
Subject: Fwd: A-Sides

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Forwarded message:
Subj:    Re: A-Sides
Date:    97-11-28 08:35:29 EST
From:    Derfelt
To:      somms@mitvma.edu

Dream Theater's "Awake" and "Falling Into Infinity" and Jethro Tull's CD
version of "Living In The Past" both exceed the stated limitations of the CD
medium, clocking in at 75:03, 78:19, and 76:36, respectively.  How exactly
they did it, I'm not exactly sure.  A friend of mine said he had a Nirvana
bootleg CD where the length was over 2 hours and it played on a regular CD
player.  He brought it to my attention that it seems that most CD's don't use
up all the physical space on the CD, if you hold it up to the light and
examine it.  He said that his Nirvana CD used it all.  Maybe that's what
these audio marathon CD's do.  Not that I have any problem with long CD's; I
like them quite a bit.

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Date:    Fri, 28 Nov 1997 12:39:05 -0600
From:    "Simon V. Iribarren Monroy" <siribarr@UDEC.CL>
Subject: What's wrong with me mailbox?

Hey...My mailbox have only mail's about Soundgarden, that's Ok, but i too
have mail's from my friends and them are death  :(
What's Wrong?
Plase...answer me anybody...
Simon

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Date:    Fri, 28 Nov 1997 12:31:11 EST
From:    Jeffi29 <Jeffi29@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Things that are going to stop

About Matt joining the Pumpkins, I didn't start the debate, I really don't
remember who did, but the thing is, if this is a Soundgarden Mailing List,
then what are we supposed to talk about?  Matt is one-fourth of the subject of
this list, and we all have a right to express our opinons, Billy Corgan
probably never did invite Matt Cameron to audition for the Pumpkins, but us as
Americans have rights to express our opinions about whatever we choose, fact
or fiction.  And besides, it's fun to talk about.


--Jeff

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Date:    Fri, 28 Nov 1997 13:18:37 -0500
From:    Jamesetta Simpson <jsimpson@MAIL03.MITRE.ORG>
Subject: Thank You Matt!!!

Well being a Soundgarden fan can pay off..  I just answered the trivia question
of the day for the local radio station...

DJ:  We just played a block of Soundgarden, today is drummer Matt Cameron's
birthday.   How old is Matt??  First caller..ect..ect...

DJ:  We have a winner - Jamie Simpson a die heart Soundgarden fan knew Matt was
born on Nov. 28, 1962.. He is 35 years old..

Thank you and Happy Birthday Matt!!!!!

Jamie
(SOMMs Mom)

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Date:    Fri, 28 Nov 1997 14:38:23 -0500
From:    Lance Huber <KAISERVRBL@AOL.COM>
Subject: Wellwater Conspiracy

OK, I'm confused.

I ordered & recieved WWC's new CD in the mail the other day. (Hater fans,
there's a big similarity in the music. Enough that I believe if you like
Hater you'll like this too)

Anyway,

I thought Kim and/or Ben were members of Wellwater?

How wrong am I & why am I wrong?

Could someone please explain that to me.

Lance

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Date:    Fri, 28 Nov 1997 15:57:02 -0500
From:    Maria Joseph <CameronJCP@AOL.COM>
Subject: In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida

Hey SOMMSters!

I actually took somemore time from my "busy schedule" to look at the SG
Discography page. I guess you know where I'm heading with this. So has anyone
heard Soundgarden sing In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida? I would like to know what that's
on.. There's other cover songs that I didn't know they did that I want to
know more about but let's start with this one :)

Thanks

- U can know by looking where it says "From:"

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Date:    Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:33:43 -0500
From:    Alissa Corsi <LoudLoveCC@AOL.COM>
Subject: HAPPY BDAY MR. BUNCHY PANTS!! (and other deeeeelites)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY MATTSTER......  YOU SEXY CUTIE YOU....  (call me what you
want, but I'm still a hootchie at heart)

----  *sigh*  I feel old.... but matt's a husband and everyone's getting old
and.... *sigh* again.... =)

SOUNDGARDEN TYPE STUFF---  I finally found Hater's first cd (used of course,
but I'm not complaining) and I'm so happy.... early xmas present for myself!!
 woohoo!

and one more thing....  I have yet to look it up on the site, but I found a
Soundgarden cd I HAD NEVER SEEN BEFORE! (and that's hard, considering I'm
missing like 2 altogether) it's an interview cd and it's just simply called:
SOUNDGARDEN: Interview.  The guys are posed funny on the front, making faces
and such.... well, anyway I don't know, but I thought I'd ask who has this cd
and how it is..... I'm getting it anyway, but I'm curious.  Thanks.....

"Remember I love you, love you"

love, lissa =)

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Date:    Fri, 28 Nov 1997 15:34:34 -0800
From:    "S. Kutz" <sjkutz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject: ave maria!

i know it's been said, but now it's time for my two cents....

it was cool.


'nuff said!=)

(except it's too bad theres so much other crap on there or else i might
support the cause and buy it!)

sarah =)

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Date:    Fri, 28 Nov 1997 19:55:42 -0500
From:    Nadia Standard <Moonsta693@AOL.COM>
Subject: Something worthwhile....

I totaly agree with what Seth has to say.  Get off the Travis thing....ya, we
all know that he looks like Chris...but come on now.

So, I'm here to show you all what you forgot through all of this shit.

                           HAPPY 35th BIRTHDAY MATT CAMERON!!!!!

Foo's 35!  Just incase you all forgot, he was part of Soundgarden.

The original pretty noose

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Date:    Fri, 28 Nov 1997 21:12:56 -0500
From:    NIKI FREER <endless_nameless@PRODIGY.COM>
Subject: Matt's Day of Sunshower

First off, Happy 35th my good man! I hope you and April have a great
day together!!!

Second off, I knew i'd screw up somewhere along the line with the
"Sunshower" lyrics, and with much non-excrutiating listening, i
managed to correct all my goofs. so, here's the new version. not much
different than the first, but little parts are refined. = ) enjoy:

"Sunshower"
Chris Cornell

dark as roses and fine as sand
i feel your healing in your sting again
i hear you laughing and my soul is saved
on forgotten graves you cry

crawl like ivy up my spine
through my nerves and into my eyes
cuts like anguish or
recolections of better days gone by

but it's alright
when you're all in pain
and you feel the rain come down
oh, it's alright
when you find your way
then you see it disappear
oh, it's alright
though your garden's gray
i know all your graces
someday we'll flower ooh...

oh, in the sweet sunshower...
in the sweet sunshower

eyes like oceans so far away
feathered trails to a better way
worried mornings turn into days
and into worried nights

but it's alright
when you're all in pain
and you feel the rain come down
oh it's alright
when you find your way
then you see it disappear
it's alright
though your garden's gray
i know all your graces
some day we'll flower, ohh

oh, in the sweet sunshower
oh in the sweet
sunshower

(a high pitched "ooh...")
in the sweet
sunshower

(Cornell ad-libbing, much like in "four walled world")
i know all your graces
someday we'll flower
in that sweet
in the sweet
sunshower
and it's alright
all you feel (you?) are today
are today
it's alright
all you feel (you?) are today
are today...are today... (repeated)


  and there you have it. any more qualms or rewrites, and i'll send
them to people privately who want them. thanks, and i hope everyone
isn't too turkey bloated. = )

mind riot

____
dark as roses and fine as sand
i feel your healing in your sting again
i hear you laughing and my soul is saved
on forgotten grace you cry...
--chris cornell "sunshower"

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SOUNDGARDEN
1984-1997
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