Date:     Wed, 4 Mar 1998 02:57:42 -0500
Subject:  SOMMS Digest - 3 Mar 1998 to 4 Mar 1998

There are 26 messages totalling 826 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. mtv unplugged
  2. KOTS
  3. Talking about memories.
  4. KT if you ever.....
  5. no Sg in here
  6. <No subject given> (2)
  7. A little compassion won't hurt you.
  8. PN Tabs
  9. --==Surveys, birthdays & other naughty stuff==--
 10. "let's stay together..." (2)
 11. and dream of those moments so few...
 12. two more down? (3)
 13. admin stuff.. (2)
 14. (it was about matt, but..) Calendars
 15. calendar (2)
 16. Soundgarden Gettin Back Together (3)
 17. Matt's letter
 18. Virgin Vinyl

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Date:    Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:04:43 +1100
From:    Mark <anooi@EISA.NET.AU>
Subject: mtv unplugged

i have Pearl Jam and Stone Temple Pilots unplugged off the T.V
mark

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Date:    Tue, 3 Mar 1998 01:42:30 -0600
From:    "Jonathan R. Pittman" <jpossum@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: KOTS

I was wondering if there was a way I could join KOTS....

One other thing..has anyone heard any further updates on the progress of
 B-Sides?

Thanks,

Jon

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Date:    Tue, 3 Mar 1998 02:01:41 -0600
From:    "Jonathan R. Pittman" <jpossum@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Re: Talking about memories.

> Date:    Thu, 26 Feb 1998 12:21:46 +0100
> From:    Guillaume PETETIN <p6mip100@CICRP.JUSSIEU.FR>
> Subject: talking about memories?
> Was your first "SG experience" similar, especially with BadMF???

Unfortunately, I was very late in "meeting" so to speak, Soundgarden.  When I
 was
younger and MTV was cool I saw the sparse SG videos they played and liked them
 but
somehow it didn't affect me at the time.

Many years later, say 1996...at the age of 21 (pitiful I know) a friend of mine
 buys
DOTU and really gets into Blow Up the Outside World and played it a lot.  I
 started
getting into it, and listened to a few tapes one of my friends had of SG.  I
 started
getting into it more, but not a lot.

Then, last year, January 27th, in Sydney, Australia, (I took a vacation from
 being
stationed in Japan, in the Navy) at a concert festival called the Big Day Out, I
 saw
Soundgarden for the first time live and completely became addicted to their
 sound.
So addicted, that when I found out that a couple of days later they would be
 playing
a full concert, I spent about $90 just to get a ticket.  The show was in a place
called the Hordern Pavilion and it was absolutely fabulous.

Anyway, I'm glad I managed to see them in Concert before they broke up, but I
 only
wish I had been exposed to them sooner.

Now, I have a huge SG collection...but I'm still trying to expand to rare and
 old
stuff, you know, the kind that is really hard to find.

OK, I know I've bored you enough, so I'll let your tired eyes wander elsewhere,
 if
they haven't already!

Jon
(why aren't there any other bands as good as SG was?????? WHY?!?!?!)

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Date:    Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:15:39 +1100
From:    "Boot Camp...nice place." <tycobb@HOTKEY.NET.AU>
Subject: KT if you ever.....

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Kim Thayil, could you please release B Sides now? I need it. And by the
way...don't ever cut your hair off...it looks frigern sick...and the beard.
I love your work.

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Date:    Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:31:29 +1000
From:    Lee Christensen <ar303921@STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU>
Subject: no Sg in here

hey ya,

Ok no Soundgarden warning!! Pearl Jam briefly.....since many ppl on here
like em.

triple J in Australia is a national radio station and is broacasting the
Pearl Jam melbourne concert across australia on thursday night. Triple J is
also broadcast on the net. So if you want to listen, around 8:30-9pm Aust.
EST thursday night:

http://www.abc.net.au/triplej

it's on 24 hours a day and is the best radio station in Aust. hell they play
ty cobb they can't be that bad. I suggest listening at 10pm friday nights
for the 3 hours of power...Soundgarden is usually played :) hell there was
some SG in this mail :) request SG by e-mailing them too :) listen on the
net and see what us aussies sommsters listen to :)

hope the info is of some use and I hope no one else posted it already.

seeya
     Lee

*****
DEF FX/ GARBAGE/ SOUNDGARDEN/ SONIC YOUTH/ RHCP/ SPIDERBAIT/ MAGIC DIRT/
ATARI TEENAGE RIOT/ REPUBLICA/ GRAVELRASH/ PEARL JAM/ FREE KITTEN/ ANGELFISH/
ICQ UIN: 1592130
http://student.uq.edu.au/~ar303921
"I'm sorry I was cruel, I forgot to kiss you..... "
*For KC dog....love you always....1986-1997*

"You only live once...."

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Date:    Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:32:04 +0100
From:    Guillaume PETETIN <p6mip100@CICRP.JUSSIEU.FR>
Subject: <No subject given>

> Soundgarden..  I know, I know Chris is going solo, Kim is putting together
> the "B" side thing, Ben and Matt do session work more or less..  It's just
  ------------------

More info on that lately?

> I do so miss having a band (one band) that I can totally immerse myself
> in..  As much as I try I can't seem to get that feeling I had for
> Soundgarden with any other band..  SIGH, as I said wishful thinking!!!!!

Well that's life, isn't it? Could you get the same feeling from their
different albums, or even songs? Do you feel the same about your lovers ?
Well maybe, but iit's always just a phase. I mean look at what happened
to Led Zep. Would you want SG to be reborn in the same kind of situation
and mood?? I would not.

PIF

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Date:    Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:12:21 -0600
From:    tonerkin <tonerkin@PIPELINE.COM>
Subject: A little compassion won't hurt you.

At 05:32 PM 3/3/98 +0100, you wrote:
> I mean look at what happened
>to Led Zep. Would you want SG to be reborn in the same kind of situation
>and mood?? I would not.
   Led Zep never reformed!!  It is Page/Plant that are together touring and
making CD's together.  And there is nothing wrong with that!!  They are the
songs they wrote together. Why should they not play them in a concert
setting??  And add to them I might add.....seeing them live twice on the
last tour I can vouch for that.

 Jamie wrote:
 >   I do so miss having a band (one band) that I can totally immerse myself
> in..  As much as I try I can't seem to get that feeling I had for
> Soundgarden with any other band..  SIGH, as I said wishful thinking!!!!!
  You wrote:
>Well that's life, isn't it? Could you get the same feeling from their
>different albums, or even songs?

I think what Jamie is trying to say is that there is a special place in her
heart for Soundgarden and maybe that spot can never be filled again by
another band.  And yes that is life but it doesn't make it any less painful
for some of us. :-(((((

>Do you feel the same about your lovers ?
  Not that it is any of your beeswax!  BUTT I can assure you Jamie has a an
even more special place in her heart for him and he ain't goin nowhere
.......is he SIS??!!??   toni

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Date:    Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:39:10 -0500
From:    Jamesetta Simpson <jsimpson@MAIL03.MITRE.ORG>
Subject: <No subject given>

>> I do so miss having a band (one band) that I can totally immerse myself
>> in..  As much as I try I can't seem to get that feeling I had for
>> Soundgarden with any other band..  SIGH, as I said wishful thinking!!!!!
>
>Well that's life, isn't it? Could you get the same feeling from their
>different albums, or even songs? Do you feel the same about your lovers ?
>Well maybe, but iit's always just a phase. I mean look at what happened
>to Led Zep. Would you want SG to be reborn in the same kind of situation
>and mood?? I would not.
>PIF

One small point here - Led Zep did NOT regroup!  Jimmy Page and Robert Plant
decided to tour again.  There was no John Paul Jones and of course no Bonzo..
Jimmy and Robert stated at the beginning of the tour that this was not a Led
Zep reunion, that they were not trying to be Led Zep.

If Soundgarden could or would reunite it would be the same 4 members combining
4 great talents to create new sounds.  As much as most bands keep a measure of
the sameness to all their music - I do think Soundgarden has tried to change
and improve their music (some times succeeding other times not).

The point I was trying to make in my original note was even with the countless
numbers of good bands out right now - NONE hold my attention as did
Soundgarden.  In life we have many loves they come and go - but there are
people, items, places, and times that we hold as that one time love.  The band
that holds that place for me is Soundgarden.

Jamie
(SOMMs Mom)

PS: It was Soundgarden that helped me find that one and true "LOVER"..

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Date:    Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:37:36 EST
From:    Gallagwar <Gallagwar@AOL.COM>
Subject: PN Tabs

Does anyone know or could someone help me figure out the complete bass tabs to
Pretty Noose.  I think it's in D but I figured out the verse in standard E
tuning.

I know the verse already:

G--------------------------------------
D--------------------------------------
A------------5-6-7--3-5-6--7-8---
E---3-4-6----------------------------

I need to know the chorus and any other fillers such as the parts in the verse
where the lyrics stop and Ben does a little solo piece such as "I caught the
moon today, pick it up and throw it away alright...(the short solo)... I got
the perfect steal...yada, yada, yada"

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Gallagwar

"If I should be short on words
 and long on things to say.
 Could you crawl into my world
 and take these words away."

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Date:    Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:49:40 EST
From:    ShRooMGrLz <ShRooMGrLz@AOL.COM>
Subject: --==Surveys, birthdays & other naughty stuff==--

A slightly twisted survey - ala Shroom:

http://members.aol.com/shroomgrlz/chris_survey.htm

Have I been neglecting my official SOMMS/Soundgarden hootchie duties?  I think
not.  I met another SOMMSter recently at a local music show.  Her name is
Amber & she's a really groovy person.  (And I'm not just saying that so she
won't spit on me the next time we see each other, which will probabaly be
soon.)  Luckily SOMEBODY else in Dallas has gotten into our local music scene
& realized how lucky we are to have all this amazing stuff going on in our
backyards.  (Rant, rant, rant...)     ;-)

So anyway, tomorrow is my birthday (the big 2-4) & I'm taking the time this
year to thank everyone who has made my life a little more enjoyable... soooo I
want to send big kisses out to all of my old SOMMSter partners-in-crime.
Especially Dena (the Blessed SOMMS Goddess & my SiCA) & everyone who used to
haunt #somms.  All the Seattle SOMMSters & that guy who sells keychains in the
mall too.  And (of course) Sethmeister (I'll never forget the look on your
face when you came out of that Porti-Potty in Discovery Park).  MuHahAHhaHA!!

Finally, a HUGE hug to my sis Caryn whose birthday is on Thursday... I LOVE
YOU CARYN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Be good kiddies, don't run with scissors, always remember that Chris Cornell
is God, and dream nice, sweet whipped cream filled dreams...

xxoo --   Shroomy
www.oneton.com
webmistress@oneton.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Do not meddle in the affairs of psycho hootchie webmistresses,
for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Date:    Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:02:11 EST
From:    CTMc4 <CTMc4@AOL.COM>
Subject: "let's stay together..."

not to flame, because that is a good point, but i don't think that it would
show weakness. if they said they never broke up that would just be lame. but
to say 'that's weak' because they decide "hm. y'know that was kinda fun when
we used to play together." that, i disagree with.

charlie

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Date:    Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:12:21 +1000
From:    justin nicholls <s325961@STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU>
Subject: and dream of those moments so few...

On Fri, 13 Feb 1998, jenny grover wrote:

> Once again Fri. 13 is proving lucky for me.  I got Vol.2 of the Desert
> Sessions by mail today.  It's titled "Status: Ships Commander Butchered"
> and it kicks ass!  3 songs on this one ["Johnny the Boy", "Screamin

take note, brisbane sommsters.

skinnys record store has a few copies of this record. it costs $22, and I
got mine last week. orange vinyl (vinly) is so pretty <smiling>.

they did receive a couple of copies of volume one, but there are none
left. I would assume that volume three (there is one, right?) will be
available there too, but the store is now under new ownership and
management.

and to add to the pj thing on jjj, the j-file being aired after the
concert will include stuff from self-pollution radio. there is a *slim*
chance that soundgarden will appear.

but that chance is real slim :(

over and out.


justin

------
and I'm lost behind
the words I'll never find
and I'm left behind
as the seasons roll on by
- words by chris cornell

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Date:    Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:33:17 EST
From:    NFS F50 <NFSF50@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: two more down?

JordanS wrote:
>     Personally, I think it'd be horrible if they got back together.  I think
 that it'd show weakness on their parts.. They were stong enough to stand up
and
 say "we've had enough" and to take that back would be, dare I say it, a
 disaster to the respect I have for them.  "Oh, uhh... wait, we were just
 kidding, we didn't really break up... uhh.. it was.. uhh.. just a vacation.
 yeah, a vacation."

    Flame away, fiends!
>

     yeah, thats kinda what sucks about the whole damn thing
        ./dead sailor\.

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Date:    Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:36:30 -0600
From:    Vince Varkey <varkey@UTDALLAS.EDU>
Subject: admin stuff..

Seth, would you mind reposting how we list members can change from
regular to digest versions, etc? Thank you.

-vincent

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Date:    Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:52:05 -0600
From:    Geoff <gak@IBM.NET>
Subject: Re: admin stuff..

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Date:    Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:52:16 EST
From:    CameronJCP <CameronJCP@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: two more down?

<< Personally, I think it'd be horrible if they got back together.  I think
 that it'd show weakness on their parts.. They were stong enough to stand up
and
 say "we've had enough" and to take that back would be, dare I say it, a
 disaster to the respect I have for them.  "Oh, uhh... wait, we were just
 kidding, we didn't really break up... uhh.. it was.. uhh.. just a vacation.
 yeah, a vacation." >>

Well since we are expressing our opinions on this I'd thought I'd like to
share a little thing that happened recently, nothin that excitin, but...
We had this bowling unit in gym class and on the last day a few guys
challenged us girls (I won the competition) and I had on a SG shirt on that
day. So just before it was my turn I told my friend that I'd bowl my next bowl
for Soundgarden, but I didn't know exactly what for. So I decided that I'd do
it for the re-banding of the band. So I went up and took my bowl and I got a
strike! It was so kewl and I stood on the lane yelling "Soundgarden is getting
back together!!! Woohooo!!!"  Was it the lucky shirt? Was it just good bowling
skill? (no.) Or was I just foreshadowing?? Probably luck, but it was kewl to
pretend.

See-ya Soundgarden Hootchie Ma's and Pa's!

Con Mucho Gusto,

M A R I A

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Date:    Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:11:33 EST
From:    O6z6z6y <O6z6z6y@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: "let's stay together..."

I feel if they were to reunite as long as they were completely honest about
their reasons for doing so then it should not be looked upon as a weakness.
Being honest to themselves as well as us (to a certain extent) is the most
important thing.  If, by some strange chance, they decide their solo endevors
aren't as fulfilling as they had hoped and they find their way back to each
other then that would be groovy as all shit man, but if they don't that's kewl
too...as long as they stay true to their music and not the almighty dollar.

L8r

~^v^OzzY^v^~

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Date:    Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:11:57 EST
From:    CameronJCP <CameronJCP@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: two more down?

<< I agree.  They disbanded with the greatest dignity, grace, and sense of
 right.  They had a long, prosperous career that brought pleasure...  So many
times you hear about bands who have broken up or who have fired members and
what you hear are  hateful, bitter, and childish remarks thrown back and
forth.  The ex-members of SG kept and maintained an unmatched level of
decency...  >>

I do agree with those of you that side with the band not regrouping because
they went out with a bang (and pretty much started out with one) or with
enough for them to be satisfied. Soundgarden was like this amazing ride that
was created by these 4 guys that started in one amusement park location. It
then grew to the likings of the other amusement parks and got real popular
because of its physical appearances and because of the actual thrill people
got from the ride. Then after a very long time from being successful, the
owners/creators of the ride decided that it had done real well and if they
could make this one great ride then they could make more great rides. So they
decide that the ride was over and that it was time for them to create new
rides or maybe do a whole nother field in the world. That's how I could put it
from that perspective.

Of course, while listening to the tape, cd's, and vinyl, you sometimes just
image that you could call up Ticketmaster or listen to your favorite radio
station and get tickets to see the band play live. And of course we sometimes
image or wish that they were together, but I'm pretty sure for the most part
that that's because of the fact that they were/are the best thing that ever
happened to the music industry. The lyricists are excellent and the musicians
are even more creative to provide for the wonderful lyrics. So if these four
guys, or shall I say 5 guys, can go out there and just pick up instruments,
some paper and a pen and create this amazing piece of creativity and do it all
just for the hell of it then they can do it again and again.

Just look at it this way. Soundgarden was just one of the many (maybe..)
possible creations started by these guys. With the break up of that band comes
a lot of influences. So maybe in the future one or two of them would work
together on something, but not in the same perspective as the mutation of STP
into Talk Show (not to dis them or whatever..just to give an example.. there
are other bands..)

So, again, just thought I'd make some convo with you guys.

See-you all later!

- Maria

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Date:    Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:17:06 EST
From:    CameronJCP <CameronJCP@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: (it was about matt, but..) Calendars

In a message dated 98-03-03 00:00:15 EST, tonerkin@PIPELINE.COM writes:

<< Thanking the Soundgardens gods that the new month got here so we can turn
  over that ugly picture of Chris who looks like Wolfboy,the guy who got
 fired from Blue Man Group!!  March is so much purtier! >>

Yup, Sommies, if you haven't already you really should go out there for a
Soundgarden calendar. A few pics you might have seen, but some aren't. And
even though it says "Soundgarden" on the front it still has "Chris" written
all over it (which is a typical thing for most bands, but I'm not saying it's
bad because he's got some nice pics there). I think September is nice if you
like the more formal look of Cornell, March is ok if you liked the long hair
look, and there is a nice one of Kim for all you Kimmy lovers (Cat). Just a
thought, but the calendar is something you guys would like :)

Love you Sommsters, Soundgarden, and Matt,

Maria

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Date:    Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:38:42 EST
From:    NFS F50 <NFSF50@AOL.COM>
Subject: calendar

CameronJCP wrote:
<Yup, Sommies, if you haven't already you really should go out there for a
Soundgarden calendar.>

WHERE night one find a freaking Soundgarden calendar?? (or poster or t-shirt
even!) ..especially in the Hudson Valley region of New York!

     ./dead sailor\.
     "Feeling Outshined..."

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Date:    Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:09:38 EST
From:    CameronJCP <CameronJCP@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: calendar

>WHERE night one find a freaking Soundgarden calendar?? (or poster or t-shirt
even!) ..especially in the Hudson Valley region of New York!<

This is for all of ya's.. You can get it from Rockabilia, as for other
merchandise.. Try the SG store at the official site.. they still work, but
they are slow and I think Rockabilia is also. There's T-Shirt Now too, I
believe, but you'd definitely have to search real good.

- Maria

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Date:    Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:22:02 -0500
From:    Dave George-Cosh <cosh@GOLDEN.NET>
Subject: Soundgarden Gettin Back Together

You know what, Soundgarden will more or less, never get back together. I
think, that with most bands that get back together, they are usually still in
the news and maintain the lifestyle that gets them attention. With all this
attention, they might have the urge to get more attention, therefore a reunion.
Why this will never happen to our beloved Soundgarden, well, none of the
band goes out looking for attention. I mean, all have laid pretty low and
probably will enjoy life in a small desolate island off Seattle. That's fine,
 and
I hope most of you can swallow this, but I think what get's ALL of us irritated,
is that the whole band, except Matt, hasn't reached out to the fans, saying,
"I'm sorry, but we're still friends, we love each other, and hey, we still might
get back together, but now, we're taking a long break.". Even Matt, in his
famous e-mail to SOMMS, didn't really clarify that. So, I'm hoping that some
guy, in the next few days/weeks/months can put all of our feelings to rest,
maybe I'm worng about this whole e-mail...but then, who cares.

And about Matt's letter, why won't Seth allow anyone to forward it? I mean, if
people wanna know about it, why not tell them about it? Being selfish and
forcing people not to exchange it, is being a jerk. And also, if someone has
that e-mail, send it to me :) I was on the list when I got it, but got the net
 for
my home, so I lost it.

Dave
ICQ # 6099664
http://www.golden.net/~cosh

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Date:    Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:54:06 -0600
From:    Andy Cooper <aacoop@IASTATE.EDU>
Subject: Matt's letter

Hey there Sommsters....
Uh, how does one go about reading the 'famous Matt email'?  I wasn't on the
list when he sent it.  Thanks.

                                Cooper

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Date:    Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:07:46 -0600
From:    Jon-Paul Andolina <jonas22@ISO.NET>
Subject: Re: Soundgarden Gettin Back Together

-----Original Message-----

>And about Matt's letter, why won't Seth allow anyone to forward it? I mean,
if
>people wanna know about it, why not tell them about it? Being selfish and
>forcing people not to exchange it, is being a jerk. And also, if someone
has
>that e-mail, send it to me :) I was on the list when I got it, but got the
net
> for
>my home, so I lost it.


So then its a safe bet that I wont be able to go to the archive and look it
up?   (damn)

jpa

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Date:    Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:18:19 -0600
From:    Kathie and David <oponfam@IOLS.NET>
Subject: Virgin Vinyl

I have hesitated writing to the list for some time now because I couldn't put
my finger on why I kept getting this sick feeling in the pit of my stomach
every time I'd see a post from a "collector" looking for some obscure SG item,
insisting that it must be "virgin" and "unopened". Then I watched Hype! again,
and finally figured it out. In the movie there's a graphic artist who is
interviewed who throughout the movie cuts up several posters while telling
what they are worth, obviously not giving a damn. And the artists involved all
talked about how everyone around them was so materialistic and greedy, while
they just wanted to play music.  The sick feeling was coming from hearing
people "collecting" SG who obviously don't have a clue what SG was about.

There seems to be two different classes of collectors on the list. Those of
us, like myself, who go all gaga when they find something they've been looking
for, even if its (gasp!) USED. And who trade, not caring if what they get is a
good copy on cassette of a bootleg CD, just because we want it for OURSELVES,
because we love Soundgarden and want everything we can get that is Soundgarden.

Then there are those of you out there who are apparently looking to "collect"
things you can keep on display, in their "original wrappers" and eventually
sell, hoping to make a profit. Maybe this isn't your motivation. So please,
those of you so intent on finding "virgin vinyl", or anything else that is
over 12 years old and still unopened, explain to me what motivates you. My
husband has asked me who I'll be leaving my collection to when I die - knowing
full well it will probably still be intact at that time. I even got pissed
when I saw a personal ad in Goldmine from someone here in Chicago selling an
autographed something or other (of course I can't find the ad now, and anyone
who's actually tried to find something in Goldmine without a magnifying glass
will know why) from the last Chicago SG shows. I keep thinking, is this
someone who was lucky enough to be involved in those magic nights who is now
turning around and prostituting him or herself?

I know people have legitimate reasons for selling things (hi Deb), but this
seems different - I don't know, somewhat calculating and greedy maybe. And
some of these people who seem to have *stumbled* upon rarities don't seem to
know much about the SG catalog as a whole. "What's this worth?" "What's that
worth?" I'm sure these are legitimate questions, but shit, isn't there
somewhere else you can get the info? Virgin vinyl indeed.

Oh, and the comments about stuff being more expensive in Seattle - hey, more
power to them. If it wasn't for Seattle the stuff wouldn't exist. I'm happy to
put my money where t all started. Besides, I think its cool to get things from
Seattle, since I've never been there and now I have just this little piece of
the place SG came from. I know, I'm rambling, but I kind of feel like I
finally threw up that nasty feeling in my stomach - and I feel so much better :)

Kathie

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Date:    Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:07:21 -0600
From:    Geoff <gak@IBM.NET>
Subject: Re: Soundgarden Gettin Back Together

I'm not exactly sure why Seth doesn't want the Matt email distributed, but I'm
sure he has his reasons, besides 'being selfish' and 'being a jerk'.  If one
stops to think about it, there are probably many reasons not to distribute it.
The first reason might be that Matt explicitly or implicitly asked Seth that it
not be distributed.  Also, the message was a personal message to the list.  If
he wanted to say something to people other than the list, he would have sent his
message another way, ie. MTV, CNN, etc., etc..  Possibly the biggest reason is
that some people are stupid fuckers who would edit/alter the message or
otherwise misrepresent/misconstrue it.
Geoff
p.s.  BTW, I do have the message saved, and I will forward it to anyone who
sends me a money order for $10 US.

Dave George-Cosh wrote:

> And about Matt's letter, why won't Seth allow anyone to forward it? I mean, if
> people wanna know about it, why not tell them about it? Being selfish and
> forcing people not to exchange it, is being a jerk. And also, if someone has
> that e-mail, send it to me :) I was on the list when I got it, but got the net
>  for
> my home, so I lost it.
>
> Dave
> ICQ # 6099664
> http://www.golden.net/~cosh

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