Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 02:00:03 -0500 Subject: SOMMS Digest - 27 Mar 1998 to 28 Mar 1998 There are 13 messages totalling 382 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. shit (2) 2. BMF/SOMMS 3. wellwater 4. Just music 5. news flash! 6. Go With The Flow - Muchmusic 7. new thread 8. "You're words are like arrows..." (2) 9. SNL 10. Fantasy Thread 11. guess what i found, oh sommsless ones? To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:15:09 +1100 From: Mark Subject: Re: shit for those who were wondering and thought you know Soundgarden (dumb muthafukers), when i wrote "...just music.." well it was a quote that Jeff Ament wrote in Temple of the Dog, i didn't make it up! That's what he believes in and i respect that thought because i worship the members from Temple of the Dog (and i thought you's would too), they really inspired my to do other shit and made me realise some other shit which has helped me 'spiritually' and in other ways. So it does happen to me (06z6z6y) sometimes, but not in a way that some people have been writing about lately, they're just freaks. mark this is the full quote dudes: ...in a good way. 10 songs. spontaneous. creation. emotion. very pleasing. Real muSic. no analysing. no pressure. no hype. JUST MUSIC. to make music. friends and a reason. chemistry. beauty ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:01:57 +0100 From: Guillaume PETETIN Subject: Re: shit > After all - it's just music! (Maybe the > > best music but nontheless just music.) > > Just music? JUST music????? Oh man, do i EVER feel sorry for you if music > is JUST music to you......(especially SG :o) Music is passion, soul, > feeling and life for some people. NEVER say it's JUST music.... > > -I. Ugly Truth another fanatic... Listen to ricky martin and tell me it's passion and soul, okay?? Music is a lot of things, but it is JUST music... as well as this thread is JUST nonsense. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:20:41 EST From: O6z6z6y Subject: Re: BMF/SOMMS In a message dated 98-03-26 23:44:14 EST, you write: << ><< I hate "She's a Politician". >> > > >It rules No.. it's a really bad song. It's the only Soundgarden song I dislike. >> You know, this would be a much more intelligible arguement and actually worth the time to open it if there were some reasons given rather than "this sucks, no it doesn't". Just a thought. L8r ~^v^OzzY^v^~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 21:10:22 +0100 From: Da Honest And Hardhitting Hardcore Detective Subject: wellwater CD WELLWATER CONSPIR. DECLARATION OF CONFORMITY x Kyuss 139- saw this on hotsuff.se are there (ex-)kyuss members in wellwater conspiracy? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:51:39 -0600 From: Ugly Truth Subject: Just music Music is a lot of things, but it is JUST music... as well as this > thread is JUST nonsense. Point taken and agreed with. But music for some is like religion for some others[ as ? said......."just Jesus"....(heh heh)] It may be JUST music for some, but for others it is a way to feel and to deal with things. Music has given me emotions that almost NOTHING else has been able to. ITs NOT JUST music. Since this IS stupid, that's the last you'll hear from me on it :^ -Ugly Truth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:22:03 PST From: New Damage Subject: Re: news flash! >guess what i just heared from my brother!!!! >Chris is going to divorce Susan the papers are all set... Yeah, he wants to marry Courtney Love and stuff.... >it's like final...oh and soundgarden isn't getting back together >Chris is joining Fleetwood Mac on their reunion tour!!! and dont Fleetwood Mac? I thought he was going to join the Bee Gees... I heard he already changed his wardrobe accordingly and everything... >guess whos sick and tired..... >Jill who isn't ?;) New Damage ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:41:06 -0500 From: El Conspiraco Subject: Go With The Flow - Muchmusic Hey there, If you were to watch Go With The Flow on Muchmusic at around 4:30 eastern, you would have seen three girls in St John's request Soundgarden's The Day I Tried To Live. Seeing how Much play's like, no Soundgarden after the breakup, I really want to know if those girls who requested SG are on the list. If you are, e-mail me...:)....if not...get on the list dammit! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:29:57 PST From: New Damage Subject: new thread Hey All ! My apologies to those who are afraid that the list will become too serious... chill, ppl ;) Now here's the story: Once I was reading this review of DOTU, can't remember where. And you know how all the SG reviews always talk about SG having borrowed their sound from Zeppelin and Sabbath. The special thing about this review was that it went beyond the usual Led-Clones accusation and said that SG were influenced by Kraut-Rock music, namely The Can, when they wrote DOTU. I'm guessing the reviewer was talking about Applebite, Boot Camp, Tighter & Tighter - the more psychedelic songs on the album. 1) Has any of you read that review, or another with similar ideas ? 2) Does any of you know enough about Kraut-Rock (like The Can ;)) to say the reviewer was right or wrong ? I've heard some Eloy (which is truly great sometimes, but might not actually count as Kraut-Rock if you're into this kind of thing) and I've heard even less Nektar (which I think is Kraut-Rock, but not sure either). Comments any1? BTW: if you check out some catalogs on the web, you might see the Wellwater Conspiracy catalogued under "new psych", which is not so far from "kraut-rock" ;)) so it's a clue ;)))) Apologies also go to those who think music is not to be catalogued and divided into genres etc. Maybe you're right, but it's still an interesting topic for discussion. New Damage ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:21:07 PST From: Star Pancake Subject: "You're words are like arrows..." Ahem. Attention. This is a rant. I CAN'T BELIEVE SOMEONE ACTUALLY HAD THE NERVE TO IMPLY THAT SOUNDGARDEN IS "just a band"!!!!! I'm sorry to be so damn frank, but I could find no other way to put this: SOUNDGARDEN IS THE MOST FUCKING AMAZING BAND TO EVER PENETRATE MY SKEPTICAL LITTLE EARS, SO ANYONE WHO TRIES TO TELL ME HOW TO FEEL WHEN THE MOST FUCKING AMAZING BAND CALLS IT QUITS! I know It's been almost a year; HOWEVER, that doesn't mean it's time to just let go and forget everything they've done. The very idea of the band regrouping made my heart jump into my throat and me almost fall on my ass, but I wasn't sure how I felt YET. I gave myself time to think about it, and I've decided it'd be good for ME in a selfish way, bad for me in a compassonate sort of way, and I don't know how it'd do for them. I know they don't give a shit about publicity, and every damn motherfucker who's feeling MEEEEAN would accuse them of pulling a cheap publicity stunt. But for some straaaaaange reason, I don't think Chris, Matt, Kim, or Ben would give them much thought. They'd go on doing what they love until they decide it's time (again) and everyone on the list has to go thru it all again, not knowing, deep down, if it's real or not. SO, to get back to the point (sorry for the rambler), I don't think anyone has the privelege to tell me or anyone else on the list how to interpret Soundgarden, the best, most fuckimg amazing band ever. Sorry bout this, I know it's a little late, I haven't checked my mail in three days. When I read that "shit" post, I had to say something to defend my beliefs.... Punky ~~"You wired me awake and hit me with a hand of broken nails..."~~ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:29:06 -0500 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6ren?= Franson Subject: Re: "You're words are like arrows..." At 05:21 PM 3/27/98 PST, Star Pancake wrote: >I CAN'T BELIEVE SOMEONE ACTUALLY HAD THE NERVE TO IMPLY THAT SOUNDGARDEN >IS "just a band"!!!!! I'm sorry to be so damn frank, but I could find no >other way to put this: Can't remember ifanyonesaidthat, but I know we some of us said it's just music. >SOUNDGARDEN IS THE MOST FUCKING AMAZING BAND TO EVER PENETRATE MY >SKEPTICAL LITTLE EARS, SO ANYONE WHO TRIES TO TELL ME HOW TO FEEL WHEN >THE MOST FUCKING AMAZING BAND CALLS IT QUITS! I know It's been almost a >year; HOWEVER, that doesn't mean it's time to just let go and forget >everything they've done. I agree. I'm not going to forget about SG, and I'm not expecting anyone else to either. >I don't think anyone has the privelege to tell me or anyone else on the list >how to interpret Soundgarden, the best, most fuckimg amazing band ever. Personally I don't think anyone has been trying to tell anyone how think, feel or interpret SG, or any other band/artist for that matter. What was said, however, was that some of the postings lately have been like reading about the second coming of christ and how we're all going to be saved. In short - creepy! I'd like to put an end to this now, since all we're going to learn is that we all differ in our perception of the band but that we all love the music. (Otherwise we wouldn't be on this list - right?!) Soren ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 14:22:09 +0900 From: fluttergirl Subject: SNL For those of us who haven't yet been witness, Soundgarden's Saturday Night Live stint will be played on Austar (Australian cable company) on Saturday 18 April. I believe the channel is Arena. Lily. ------------------------------------- '...But in your arms I'd freeze...' ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:46:04 -0600 From: Kathie and David Subject: Fantasy Thread I was a bit surprised that this getting back together thread has lasted so long, considering the source. I can understand people wishing this would happen, but I for one would be extremely surprised if Soundgarden got back together. There's nothing wrong with hoping, but I do think it shows a lack of vision, since its obvious the guys (at least Chris and Matt) are moving on. I was also a bit surprised at the nasty responses New Damage's post provoked. Just goes to show that alot of the people posting now were not here when the actual break up occurred. > eventually leads you to the thought that SG have mercilessly > fucked with the feelings of all their fans, risked having some > disappointed fans committing suicide, and who knows what else. This is something I've been thinking about, too, and if you were around at the time of the break up you would understand that many of the posts WERE pretty alarming as far as depression and despair. My thought was, "Shit, after all the pain the break up caused...." I agree that SG don't run their careers on fan opinion, but the feelings evoked were real and to even think that it was all a scam just to take a break would just not wash with me. I loved them too much, and respected them too much. And I have moved on, and am hopeful for their respective futures. And to be honest, at this point I'm not real sure I'd even want them to get back together. Then someone else said: > When i > learned that the band had split up my reaction was "That suck!", but that > was it. No Post Traumatic Stress Disorder or anything just a simple > statement and then on with life. Well, this sicko saved a bunch of the digests from that first week, and believe me the feelings on this list were anything but simple. And some people had a VERY difficult time with it, as New Damage tried to explain. I know you later said that you haven't been on the list that long. There are (were) people on this list who live, eat and breathe Soundgarden. And this list is supposed to be a comfortable place for these people, most of whom have NOWHERE else to talk about their obsession. And whether we agree with it or not, we have no right to judge it. I miss Soundgarden terribly. But I think that even if they did get back together it wouldn't, couldn't be the same. Kathie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 00:44:41 -0500 From: NIKI FREER Subject: guess what i found, oh sommsless ones? hey sommsters! yes indeedie, my good friends, i stumbled onto a BMF/SOMMS tonight!! both discs, in very good condition (i checked thoroughly) although the cover has a few minor nicks. And i'm going to hold a drawing for this, because i have one of these sets already, so it's up to you guys! I paid $20 for it ($17.98 + ridiculous Philadelphia tax= $19. 24) and it'll cost ya $3 shipping ($2 something for the shipping itself and $1 for the envelope and if you're off in never-never land it'll run a bit more) BUTT there's one hitch: DO NOT (repeat) DO NOT reply to this address. If you want this reply to: NF277679@WCUPA.EDU I'll be taking names until Monday at 7pm, and please no Somms owners, that's not very fair. I'll announce the winner either on Monday night or sometime Tuesday, depending on how busy I am. = ) good luck and DO NOT REPLY TO THIS ADDRESS!!!!! = ) later all, mind riot ^..^___~~ ____ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOUNDGARDEN 1984-1997 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 27 Mar 1998 to 28 Mar 1998 ************************************************