From: Automatic digest processor To: Recipients of SOMMS digests Subject: SOMMS Digest - 20 Aug 1999 to 21 Aug 1999 Date: Saturday, August 21, 1999 2:05 AM There are 21 messages totalling 638 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Help SF SOMMSters!!!! 2. blue cheer + sg 3. eyeliner & CC Live on Radio 4. Moog cook book 5. Secret shows? 6. Europe 7. CC live on the radio 8. question relating to old (2) 9. eyeliner & beer 10. Lost Angels (2) 11. selling out (2) 12. Radio countdown in L.A. (2) 13. The Moog Cook Book 14. Napster 15. Preaching the End... 16. Who has seen the movie "hype!"? 17. LITTLE HOOTCHIES! To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:37:42 PDT From: Pretty Noose Subject: Help SF SOMMSters!!!! Hey Kiddies I've got a problem!!!! I'm moving into college on the 21st. Tickets go on sale the 22nd. I'm going to be in orientation all day so there is NO WAY I can go to the box office or order tickets. CAn someone get me a ticket???? I'll pay you back EVERY CENT. But it would be the GREATEST thing you could do for me! Write me back if you can! the original pretty noose _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 02:50:18 -0400 From: jenny grover Subject: blue cheer + sg > an interesting little note, here. metal forefathers, blue cheer (listen to > them. FEEL THE POWAAH!) had an album called louder than god. maybe that > louder than fuck story was claimed in jest. maybe it was just a nod to the > rawcus rockers. I have a video of an MTV interview conducted by some ditzy girl on MTV from about '92 and at the start of the interview there's music playing in the background and when she starts to interview the band Kim says, "Tell them to play more Blue Cheer" and points at like the stage hands, and the others nod and say yeah. So, that tells me they like them and are probably aware of that album title. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 01:48:56 PDT From: Joe Franks Subject: eyeliner & CC Live on Radio 1. Who really cares if he wears eye liner or not. People who are in the public eye a lot or at photo shoots or on tv wear it all the time. Its not selling out or anything like that 2. That CC live show, do think you could record it on tape. I live in Washington and Chris doesn't seem like he wants to play in the rain. At least for a while. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:38:28 +0200 From: "Huib, Mandy & Sanne Mulder" Subject: Re: Moog cook book Go to www.sgi.net/soundgarden/multimedia/index-misc.html for Black Hole Sun (Moog). Mandy -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Mike Stevenson Aan: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Datum: woensdag 18 augustus 1999 21:03 Onderwerp: Moog cook book >I've heard of something called the Moog Cook Book and I guess someone did >Black Hole Sun on it. I think I heard a Nirvana song in Hype that sounded >like it came from that. I used to have a wav of the Moog Cook Book version >of BHS but I got a virus and lost everything. It kind of sounded like >tropical music. :) >-Mike > > >"If this isn't making sense, It doesn't make it lies." > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:11:26 +0200 From: "Huib, Mandy & Sanne Mulder" Subject: Re: Secret shows? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0115_01BEEAF4.5CB2E3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I must say, I'm kinda surprised Chris coming to Amsterdam because they = were here a couple of months before SG split up and told the press never = to play in "that pisshole Amsterdam". So they went to Rotterdam. But = Paradiso is kinda small, so I figure that must be why he's coming there = now. I tried to get some confirmation yesterday, but still nothing.=20 =20 Mandy (Amsterdam) -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: alan ball Aan: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Datum: donderdag 19 augustus 1999 3:27 Onderwerp: Secret shows? =20 =20 I'm sorry if I'm just being slow here, but what is Chris doing in = Holland/Netherlands, in november is it? Living in the UK this might be = the only way us Brits get to see him, anyone got any info? =20 Oh and another thing, in September, he's going to be here in the UK, = does anyone think/hope he'll do any secret shows?=20 =20 =20 --Alan. ------=_NextPart_000_0115_01BEEAF4.5CB2E3E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I must say, I'm kinda = surprised Chris=20 coming to Amsterdam because they were here a couple of months before SG = split up=20 and told the press never to play in "that pisshole Amsterdam". = So they=20 went to Rotterdam. But Paradiso is kinda small, so I figure that must be = why=20 he's coming there now. I tried to get some confirmation yesterday, but = still=20 nothing.
 
Mandy
(Amsterdam)
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Van: alan ball <edge@BASE85.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
Aan:=20 SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU = <SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
D= atum:=20 donderdag 19 augustus 1999 3:27
Onderwerp: Secret=20 shows?

I'm sorry if I'm just being slow here, = but what is=20 Chris doing in Holland/Netherlands, in november is it?  Living = in the=20 UK this might be the only way us Brits get to see him, anyone got = any=20 info?
 
Oh and another thing, in September, he's going to be here in = the UK,=20 does anyone think/hope he'll do any secret shows? 
 
 
--Alan.
------=_NextPart_000_0115_01BEEAF4.5CB2E3E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:44:21 +0200 From: Rik Subject: Europe Well, it's confirmed. Chris Cornell will be playing in the Paradiso in Amsterdam on october 29. For anyone interested, presale starts september 10. rik ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 07:14:28 -0400 From: DeeDee Kamp Subject: Re: CC live on the radio I am not going to swear to this, but my husband insistants that the place the guy on the radio said CC would be during the recording of this show was *not* Town Hall. > Show in NY is on the 14th..... there was either a mistake made or there's > something going on on the 15th. we don't know about... anyone got any clues? > -Igor > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:38:51 EDT From: Igor Nepomnyashchiy Subject: question relating to old just browsing around the unofficial site and it says that SG toured with NIN at some point... being an avid fan of both i'd like to know... when did this happen? for how long? are there any other ties between SG and NIN? -Igor ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:51:32 -0600 From: The Opon Family Subject: Re: eyeliner & beer Ryan wrote: > i just haven't been able to comprehend why everyone's so concerned with "chris is doing > this!" > and being angry with his new "look". if i remember, i heard similar crap > like this when he cut all his hair off back in the day. i dunno...i'm just > grateful that he's still making great music. I agree. I look at Chris and I still just see *Chris*. I was discussing this all with my husband and I told him "I think Chris looks fine" and he started teasing me, saying "You'd think he looked fine if he were fat and bald!" and that really struck me and I replied "Well isn't that the way you're supposed to feel about someone you really like - shouldn't that be commendable?" When you truly care about someone it isn't how they look that matters, its what you see inside them - its their essence, that makes them who they are. What I'd like to know is why people have the attitude that just because they hate something it must be bad, or for that matter if they like something it must be great. Everyone has their own opinion; music is so subjective. Whenever people start ripping on Chris I always think of this song on the Great Expectations soundtrack called Breakable. The first time I heard it it actually made me cry because it made me think of Chris (at that time people were ripping Sunshower). "Do you always have to tell him everything on your mind? You know that too much honesty can be so unkind Everytime you throw him to the floor Why are you surprised to see He's breakable You always try to find what's holding him away from you But do you ever see your anger standing there right between you? And everytime you throw him to the wall Why are you surprised to see He's breakable Tell the world that he's breaking your heart Go tell the world nothing's ever your fault Go tell them all Every time you throw him to the floor Why are you surprised to see He's breakable And every time you push him to the wall why are you surprised to see He's breakable." (Fisher & Ron Wasserman) Any person who writes lyrics like Chris does must feel things very deeply. Don't ever think he doesn't care what people think of his music, because he wouldn't be doing what he's doing if he didn't want people to listen. And be patient - "Can't Change Me" and "Flutter Girl" are not true indicators of what the whole album sounds like.....Personally I'll bet most people who liked Temple of the Dog will like Euphoria Morning. Kathie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:12:00 EDT From: Jenna Freemon Subject: Lost Angels Wow, forgive me if i haven't noticed this on the list before but i was watching a Movie called Lost Angels and they played Soundgarden while these two messed up kids were driving in a car. The song was Get on the Snake. It was very shocking. Anyone heard of this movie? Jenna :o) P.S. Please don't flame me for this, i'm innocent. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:26:54 EDT From: Paul Nicholson Subject: selling out hey, hey....what's with all the bad vibes here? what's wrong with eyeliner? michael stipe, kurt cobain....there is a list of names....any self-respecting artist wears eyeliner, it's just one of those things you have to do....and it looks good, why cut someone up for making themselves look good? if he was really selling out, he would have released an album much sooner in the wake of soundgarden splitting. and used the publicity. did metallica sell out when they cut their hair? did frank black sell out after the pixies? did soundgarden sell out when they made superunknown? no. so give the guy a break. if he wanted he could make an album of verse-chorus-verse, 4/4-time, radio-friendly bullshit, that would sell because of soundgarden.....at least be thankful that he's kept some fucking integrity...... also, if you're going to buy a tool album, get aenima, one of the best albums ever. "it's not how you fall, it's how you land." paul. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:59:12 EDT From: Robin Warren Subject: Re: selling out it's just eyeliner....I don't c what all the hub-bub is about. I wear it every day & hopefully folks in the 90's aren't going to make it just gender specific to women........ Robin ! ------------------ In a message dated 8/20/99 12:31:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, D7Sinfony@AOL.COM writes: > hey, hey....what's with all the bad vibes here? what's wrong with eyeliner? > michael stipe, kurt cobain....there is a list of names....any self- > respecting > artist wears eyeliner, it's just one of those things you have to do....and > it > looks good, why cut someone up for making themselves look good? if he was > really selling out, he would have released an album much sooner in the wake > of soundgarden splitting. and used the publicity. > > did metallica sell out when they cut their hair? did frank black sell out > after the pixies? did soundgarden sell out when they made superunknown? no. > so give the guy a break. if he wanted he could make an album of > verse-chorus-verse, 4/4-time, radio-friendly bullshit, that would sell > because of soundgarden.....at least be thankful that he's kept some fucking > integrity...... > > also, if you're going to buy a tool album, get aenima, one of the best > albums > ever. > > > "it's not how you fall, it's how you land." > paul. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:18:12 -0400 From: Bill Herrington Subject: Lost Angels >Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:12:00 EDT >From: Jenna Freemon >Subject: Lost Angels >To: SOMMS@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > >Wow, forgive me if i haven't noticed this on the list before but i was >watching a Movie called Lost Angels and they played Soundgarden while these >two messed up kids were driving in a car. The song was Get on the Snake. It >was very shocking. Anyone heard of this movie? > >Jenna :o) > >P.S. Please don't flame me for this, i'm innocent. > Never seen the movie...but in the Louder than Live video Cornell introduces that song by saying something like, "This song was in a movie that nobody saw." --- Bill Herrington billh@exit118.com http://theranch.exit118.com Good Stuff: http://slashdot.org/ http://www.google.com/ Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger Kyuss - Sky Valley Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:31:16 EDT From: Sarah Bucolic Subject: Radio countdown in L.A. Can't Change Me was #5 on the Furious Five at Nine on the Los Angeles radio station KROQ 106.7 two days ago. I called in yesterday to vote for him, but he didn't make it to the top 5. It was pretty cool though. By the way, has anything been planned yet for a L.A. and San Diego SOMMSters get together? Take care and rock on!!! Sarah ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:36:22 EDT From: Heather Scott Subject: Re: Radio countdown in L.A. It's a really big deal for Chris to be in regular rotation on KROQ. From what I understand, many major market alternative radio stations model their playlists after KROQ's. KROQ is the trend setter. -Heather ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:57:29 -0600 From: Fluttergirl Subject: Re: question relating to old >just browsing around the unofficial site and it says that SG toured >with NIN at some point... being an avid fan of both i'd like to know... >when did this happen? for how long? are there any other ties >between SG and NIN? I don't think they played many shows together. It was probably back in '95 (maybe). I remember trying to win tickets on the radio for a show in Toronto (?). My memory is pretty fuzzy, however. It might not have been Toronto -- it could have been the Reading festival. Anyhoo, SG and NIN are my favorite bands, too. I think it's cool that the Chris Cornell solo and the new NIN are being released the same day. Fluttergirl (new and improved! More eyeliner in every email!) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 02:48:42 +0200 From: Jon Waltersson Subject: The Moog Cook Book Ok, a late post on the subject, but here it is anyway: Check out the Moog Cook Book, it's got 'moogy' versions of a few songs, including two BHS video clips and one sound sample of that very song. http://bubblegum.uark.edu/Moog_Cookbook/ (Yep, the songs are in the Multimedia section.) For some reason it could be hard to go there (I just visited the page myself and got various messages saying the URL wasn't correct), but it does exist. Just keep on trying.... Over and Out. Jon P.S The 'moogy' version of Big Me (Foo Fighters) can be heard in the elevator in the Monkeywrench video. Pretty cool, eh? But yeah, enuf of non-SG information...I'm off. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:21:28 PDT From: Toni Crawley Subject: Napster This is the first time I have posted here, but I felt that I really have to share this piece of information. I don't know if anyone is familiar with Napster, but it is a programme where you can share mp3s with other people. I was on it today and discovered that someone has the WHOLE of Europhia Morning on mp3s???!!!! I know mp3s are supposed to be naughty....but if anyone is interested in hearing Chris' new album before it comes out I suggest you go there. It's times like these when I wish I had a CD burner! I started downloading Preaching the End of the World, but of course my computer screwed up, so I only have half of it. If anyone is interested I guess I can send it to them though. I am yet to form an opinion of this song, but I would probably get shot down if I did share my opinion anyway. So I'll leave it up to you guys to decide and argue about. -Toni You can download Napster from www.napster.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 19:56:55 PDT From: Joe Franks Subject: Preaching the End... I to only got half of preaching the end of the world. I really like it. Its got a 60's love song kinda feel with an acoustic guitar and Chris sings in a high pitch voice. It was suprising cause I thought it would be more a darker song but I was wrong. There are some computer gen sound effects in it but just for atmosphere. It the best out the 3 that I've heard. Chris actually strains his voice a little in the chorus which is kinda refreshing to hear. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:23:51 EDT From: Daniel Roose Subject: Who has seen the movie "hype!"? I just saw hype! this morning and it was pretty cool. I've been more into documentaries and biographies, so this caught my attention at the video store, and watching the film itself also caught my attention. Wish I could have been at some of those concerts, moshing start to finish and then some. There were only comments from Matt and Chris, though. I was hoping for all of SG to have some part in the film, maybe even Hiro, but, over all I thought it was a good film. It shows how much happened in so little time. Grunge was only publiccaly exposed everywhere for a few years, but look what it did. Well, anyways, share thoughts on the film, if you've seen it. If not, check it out. Daniel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:52:51 PDT From: Dave George-Cosh Subject: LITTLE HOOTCHIES! Hey SOMMS, I bought the new RayGun on impulse :) Well, I'll transcribe it and scan the pix for all ya cheapasses out there, but I thought you all might like to read the following : "...(talking about pets)...He and Silver are trying to have a baby, and Cornell figures that their doting relationship with their pups bodes well for their future parenting skills. "You have to have a sense of responsibility and a bond with this creature, whether it's a human or an animal, and we've always had an amazing bond with animal. We didn't even know we had that in common when we first got together, because neither of us had any pets. Then I got Susan a cat from the pound, and she just freaked out on it. She still has that cat. It sleeps on her chest every night. As time went on, I realized 'Wow, not only is she a great pet owner, she'd be a great mother.'" For the record, they have 3 dogs (two Pomeranians and one white German Shephard) and a cat (mentioned above) :) They used to have 5 dogs, but appartly two were eaten :) Dave ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 20 Aug 1999 to 21 Aug 1999 ************************************************