From: Automatic digest processor To: Recipients of SOMMS digests Subject: SOMMS Digest - 6 Sep 1999 to 7 Sep 1999 Date: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 2:00 AM There are 19 messages totalling 646 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. what the ...??!! (2) 2. Just mention this while I think of it.... 3. Metal Hammer Article (2) 4. Chris on MTV UK - but don't get too excited (yet) (2) 5. CCM Australlian Single.... 6. mainstream doooooos (2) 7. Video reminder and short review of EM 8. Chris and Sarah Michelle Gellar? 9. R: European tour (Paris, Zurich, Milan) 10. don't talk to me about 'grunge'. (2) 11. i think i finally get the video 12. eep! grunge! and the fans who love it... 13. kim's guitar 14. CONCERT IN PARIS To UNSUBSCRIBE from SOMMS, send email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following in the body of your message: SIGNOFF SOMMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 11:48:38 -0700 From: Carmen Lagunilla Subject: what the ...??!! Hi guys ... Taking a look at Metal Hammer pix, it seems somebody has inserted Chris Cornell=B4s head in Chris Robinson=B4s body! what the fuck ...? What the fuck is this??!! ... His trousers are ... are =2E.. a joke! Oh my Goodness, I hope he won=B4t do a Black Crowes=B4 singer style coreography in London=B4s show!!! I miss so much his Loud Love=B4s silver trousers ... Girljam ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 02:58:20 -0700 From: "J.C." Subject: Just mention this while I think of it.... Okay, whenever I listen to Jeff Buckley's Dream Brother, I always think it sounds like Matt drumming. Our Matt that is. You know, Matt Cameron. In fact, the whole instrumental break sounds like Jeff's band is channelling Soundgarden. Does anyone else notice this or am I just going nuts again? Jay. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 03:19:41 -0700 From: "J.C." Subject: Metal Hammer Article That was a great article wasn't it? Am I the only one who's noticed quite a big change in the way Chris presents himself now, even from the later Soundgarden days. I'm not sure how to put it, but he seems more, um, mainstream. I find it ironic how he goes through the motions of complaining about how he dislikes publicity so much, in the middle of a huge bloody publicity campaign! I've gotta say I don't really like it, but of course, you should never try and judge someone by the way they come across in a magazine interview. One thing I picked up on was this: "I m not gonna have produced and composed and arranged and played by Chris - I don t think that sounds good and I m not good enough to play all those instruments." I've gotta ask why doesn't he think that sounds good? I think it sounds good. Lot's of other artists are quite comfortable to go with that. And he's definetely more than capable of going it completely alone. It seems like he's using Natasha and Alain as some sort of safety net. It was supposed to be a solo album, now it's a collaboration with Eleven. The net seems to be working like a charm as well, the people on this list that don't like certain aspects of the album are heaping blame on Eleven in no uncertain terms. Cynical? Anyays, good to finally read a postive review in the actual press. And who'd have thought it'd come from a metal publication. On the much debated hair front. I think the Can't Change Me video is the final straw. I miss the spikey hair. This floppy do just won't, um, DO. He looks like a sap! I'm still picturing spikey Chris when I listen to Euphoria Morning. - Jay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 12:44:12 +0100 From: alan ball Subject: Chris on MTV UK - but don't get too excited (yet) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEF865.8584A280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I saw Chris on Brand:new on MTV UK today, the same show is on again at = 7pm Monday 6th. It's only a short thing, but the presenter shows a part = of an interview thats going to be shown in a 'couple' of weeks. This = appears in the first 15 mins of the show leading up to the first break. = This is probably where we'll get to see the video on TV for the first = time. =20 I get the feeling that we're not going to see much of Chris on MTV UK = because it's so pop-based these days, so I just thought I'd mention it. --Alan. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEF865.8584A280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I saw Chris on Brand:new on MTV UK today, the = same show=20 is on again at 7pm Monday 6th.  It's only a short thing, but the = presenter=20 shows a part of an interview thats going to be shown in a 'couple' of=20 weeks.  This appears in the first 15 mins of the show leading up to = the=20 first break.  This is probably where we'll get to see the video on = TV for=20 the first time. 
 
I get the feeling that we're not going to see = much of=20 Chris on MTV UK because it's so pop-based these days, so I just thought = I'd=20 mention it.
 
--Alan.
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEF865.8584A280-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 11:44:20 +1000 From: Greg Dunbar Subject: Re: CCM Australlian Single.... >First question is what is the Poncier CD??? did i miss something or am i >just dumb??? Another bootleg like Stolen Prayers that had those songs. Does that mean that Chris Cornell was somehow affiliated with the Poncier bootleg? Or is he just acknowledging it...who knows. wait.. don't answer that. My question for all you Aussie >SOMMIES who have the CD.... are Flutter Girl and Nowhere But You the >demos from Stolen Prayers boot???? If so are they any different (ie >cleaned up, better sounding, anything added to em)????????? They're the same. Sound cleaned up from the mp3 versions I downloaded but probably just the same thing. ----------------------------------------------- I think it's time to listen.to/overblown ---------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 11:04:09 EDT From: Chad Misselhorn Subject: Re: what the ...??!! okay, i have a long running theory.. and once again i've been proven right when rockers are young, they are cool and rockin but self destructive b/c that is what rockin is.. being uncomfortable w/ something and making noise as they get older.. they don't need to rock as much.. b/c they discover some peace and understanding about their reality.. look at metallica.. they don't rock as much now.. but they are truly content w/ themselves and their music.. so that is to be seen as something that enhances their music.. not this 'they sold out' crap.. same w/ pearl jam.. they used to rock hard.. but they were always having internal problems.. b/c that is what rocking is.. but now they are ahead and advanced.. and while yeild wasn't the most impressive visceral album of theirs.. i get a sense of proudness for them when i hear it.. b/c i know they have finally reached what they want.. now granted chris always speaks highly of soundgarden.. but he's rocked before.. it's time for him to evolve and explore.. so without even hearing it, i know euphoria morning will be good.. just b/c i know he is a good musician and is king midas when it comes to stuff like that why did i post this? oh the chrisrobinson/bellbottoms thing.. yeah he does look thin, yeah he is kinda pretty these days.. but that's evolution.. let's all have an orgy you guys are lucky i am still groggy from sleep or else i would never have posted this rediculous email and now.. a haiku what a lava lamp the colors open my eyes damn i need breakfast ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 11:41:57 EDT From: Nadezhda Ball Subject: mainstream doooooos It's fun to be back on the list and feel the love from my SOMMY friends! So Chris is going mainstream huh? I have to disagree with you on that one. His publicity is not comparable as say N SYNC. I mean he's doing his whole internet thing. Not going on the mickey mouse club or anything. It's very low key. He's on the covers, of all magazines to pick, RAYGUN. It looks as though he's just trying to be lowkey as possible, but still trying to let people, other than us fucking freaky sommsters that seem to know everything about that fucking crazy band even when they pee and what kinda beer Kim drinks, what was I saying? Oh yeah, he's just trying to reel in some more fans. If yer a musician and you have something to say, what good is it to make something and not have anyone listen to it. I think the reason for the Behind the Video thing or whatever it is, is for his fans. Duh! But he really wanted to do it for us rather than publicity unlike Britney Someoneputsspearthruherquick. I mean he's playing Town Hall out here in NYC. He could have picked a venue that has more pull, but he's going for something small and not really known for it's "rock" concerts. I think he's trying to do some sort of European indie thing, kinda like he's teamed up with Porcupine Tree or Kula Shaker or something. His already known fame won't let him have that though, so it seems as though he's going mainstream. He's trying to start a clean slate. Too bad Rocksha and Clambake are there, and he can't do a complete fresh new naked and raw Chris (yummy). If anything to me he seems mellower, happier, kinda like... he's joined the Clocksha WACO Cult and gots brainwashed! That's what happens when you move to North Cali. Naw but he does seems mellower and happier. Maybe this is all good for him. Whatever makes you happy dood. Besides Chris can't go mainstream. He'd have to get in a time machine and go back to 1980-1984, switch places with his former self in order to get famous. Haven't you guys been paying attention. The old man has to work twice as hard to get anyone to notice him. And prance around half naked (yummy) with fake boobs (no!). It's all good Chris. I understand dood. Keep doin your thing. You gotta pay your bills. Multi-millionaires can be so misunderstood at times. Shame on you! Okay, about this new dooooo of his. I kinda like it, but it's really confusing, cuz didn't he have curly hair? I'm ascared. I've gotten reviews of his look. "He looks like the devil." "He looks like Dave Navarro (forgive me father for repeating the words of a heretic!)." I dunno. I think he looks great. In RAYGUN he looks like he just got out of the shower, didn't use Johnson's Baby Conditioner and his mommy forgot to comb out his tangles. How cute!!! What's with the cute thing here? I do miss his spikey hedgehog hair though. The farther and farther you go back with dood's hair, the more I miss it. 1994... yummy. 1987... drool. i'm just gonna go back to work and listen to my Chris Conrell jammy joint! Word to da hogz! da queen uda hedgehogz dezh. "if this isn't makin sense, it doesn't make it lies." "the truth don't look that good on me." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 11:42:59 -0400 From: Jamesetta Simpson Subject: Re: Chris on MTV UK - but don't get too excited (yet) > alan ball wrote: > I get the feeling that we're not going to see much of Chris on MTV UK > because it's so pop-based these days, so I just thought I'd mention > it. When do you ever see much music on MTV any more. They really need to drop the M in the MTV.. I think (and not to hard today since it is a holiday here in the states) we may see more of Chris on VH1. I'm now at that point where I find myself mentally humming "Mission" and "When I'm Down". This CD is going to be the type where the more you play it the more you like it. Jamie (SOMMs Mom - 9 days and counting until ChrisFest starts) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:25:04 EDT From: Denis Farinha Subject: Video reminder and short review of EM Hey everyone, just a reminder! Tonight is the night! Video premiere! Be sure to set those VCR's! From what I've seen on real player format, this video looks like it's gonna be a good one! Anyway, here's my short review of Euphoria Morning (track by track): 1) Can't Change Me - Good song (very poppy, but not cheesy); if you can identify with the meaning behind it the song becomes so much more. 4 1/2 out of 5 2) Flutter Girl - A personal favorite of mine; quite different from the demo version, but definitely still a winner. (I could do without the "scweww" sound though ;) 5 3) Preaching The End Of The World - A vocally impressive song! Chris never ceases to amaze me with what the capabilities of his voice can accomplish. I'd describe this one as darkly angelic with a poppy flavor to it. 5 4) Follow My Way - Very reminiscent of Soundgarden. Kick ass! 'nuff said. 5 5) When I'm Down - My personal favorite as of now; this one just gives me the chills. Fans of Temple of The Dog will adore this one!! Extremely impressive and its got Chris' name written all over it! 5+ 6) Mission - Somewhat disappointing, but not a terrible song. 3 7) Wave Goodbye - To be honest, on first listen I couldn't connect myself to the song. I was desperately wanting another Say Hello To Heaven and this song is anything, but that. However, after a few listens I came to realize that the meaning of Wave Goodbye is much more about the process of moving on, rather than dwelling on the past and suffice to state, I have come to like it a lot. 5 8) Moonchild - A beautiful song with a catchy chorus. 5 9) Sweet Euphoria - A good piece, but it could have been longer. 41/2 10) Disappearing One - Matt Cameron's influence on this one is very obvious. A very delicate, yet incredibly moving track. 5 11) Pillow Of Your Bones - Another personal favorite of mine. Like Follow My Way, this track is sure to remind many of Soundgarden. Chris' use of his falsetto in this one is amazing. Powerful!!! 5+ 12) Steel Rain - Very hypnotic and darkly glorious. This song just draws you in and overcomes you instantly. 500++++....umm I like this one....;) Well, that's my personal review of U4ia Morning. Go get the album!!! It's well worth it and be sure to give it a chance! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:44:35 EDT From: Denis Farinha Subject: Chris and Sarah Michelle Gellar? Hey Chad, as far as I know Chris has always had dark brown or black hair depending on how you look at it. I pretty much doubt that he's recently dyed his hair jet black; rather I would think that over time his hair has just gotten darker which is really common with a lot of people. In youth, some have really blonde or light brown hair, but as years go by, hair tends to darken. Same with eye color in many cases. Still, I wouldn't be able to tell you if he dyes his hair or not, cause I don't know the guy personally. The only reason I would see for him to do that is if he were...going...grey...muuuhhhaahaahaaaaa! Oh and didn't you know that Sarah Michelle Gellar is in reality Chris Cornell's illegitimate daughter? LOL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 19:01:04 +0200 From: Rizzitelli Marco Subject: R: European tour (Paris, Zurich, Milan) Hi, I bought last Saturday my tickets for the Zurich gig WOOOOOOOOOWWWWW!!!!!!!! Thanks again "Circe" for the informations...Now I hope to see Chris twice, if he'll come in Milan. Hope to see you in Zurich... let me know. CIAO MARCO ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Rizzitelli Marco Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 7:47 AM Subject: Re: European tour (Paris, Zurich, Milan) > At 19:04 02/09/99 +0200, you wrote: > >Hi, thank you very much, I hope to see Chris here in Italy, so if you'll > >have more news about that please let me know, I will be thankful... Do you > >know something more about the Zurich date, I will travel to CH, at least. > > Hi! I do know a little more about the Zurich date. It's on the 22nd of > October (a Friday I think), the venue is "Volkshaus", ticket prices are > around 41swiss francs (you still have to add a surcharge). The good news > is, you can order the tickets online already at www.tickline.ch. The > website's in German, but all you have to do, is type Chris Cornell in the > blank field, and his name should appearl. Then you click again, and they'll > ask you how many tickets you want etc. > I was thinking of going to this show, but I don't know yet. Good luck with > the tickets! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 16:02:19 EDT From: Paul Nicholson Subject: don't talk to me about 'grunge'. "grunge" is a whole load of shit really isn't it. i mean, it's just a word. let me ask; did anyone hear the word "grunge" before the seattle scene became big? it's just a pigeon-holing phrase invented (probably) by geffen or some journalist. just like "heavy metal". you can't really put nirvana, Sg, Pj etc... into the same category. "heavy metal" was used to describe hendrix's music....now, what's the similarity between jimi's music, and "heavy metal" of today? hendrix didn't sound like max cavalera. as for the "are soundgarden grunge" debate, how many "grunge" bands played in 5/4 time? sg are, in my view, pretty much unique (especially dotu). it's just timeless music. paul. "it was k's choice." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 16:23:18 EDT From: James Connolly Subject: Re: don't talk to me about 'grunge'. In a message dated 9/6/99 4:04:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, D7Sinfony@AOL.COM writes: << as for the "are soundgarden grunge" debate, how many "grunge" bands played in 5/4 time? sg are, in my view, pretty much unique (especially dotu). it's just timeless music. >> i used to think of it that way too(when i was totally obsessed with time signatures[i'm so pretentious]), but a band can be part of a category even if they are doing things differently. even if the category is just for the ease of saying or marketing. i don't get pissed about grunge, i call it grunge cuz people identifiy with it when i say it. they know i mean early 90s seattle rock. hate to be a conformist, but come on... peace out jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 15:52:23 -0500 From: tonerkin Subject: Re: mainstream doooooos At 11:41 AM 9/6/99 EDT, Nadezhda Ball wrote: > >Okay, about this new dooooo of his. I kinda like it, but it's really >confusing, cuz didn't he have curly hair? I'm ascared. I've gotten reviews of >his look. "He looks like the devil." "He looks like Dave Navarro (forgive me >father for repeating the words of a heretic!)." I dunno. I think he looks >great. In RAYGUN he looks like he just got out of the shower, didn't use >Johnson's Baby Conditioner and his mommy forgot to comb out his tangles. How >cute!!! What's with the cute thing here? I do miss his spikey hedgehog hair >though. The farther and farther you go back with dood's hair, the more I miss >it. 1994... yummy. 1987... drool. I tried to stay out of the great hair debate but I can't!!! Chris appears to have had curly hair in the early days which I do believe was natural. I also have curly hair and as you get older and your hair changes it get weirder. Sometimes the natural curl goes out and you are left with an odd mixture of waves and straight. I think the "wet" look we are seeing is Chris straightening out those waves. He is doing the gel thing or whatever kind of product is out there. I don't want to see him in the same hair style he wore 10 years ago. I think it's a sign of maturity and confidence that he no longer hides behind the hair and is comfortable enough in his own skin to go for different looks. I see nothing wrong with that! Are any of you walking around with the same "do" you had 10 years ago....I hope not! Give Chris a break. He's just a human being who is trying to do his "job" and live his life. It just happens to be in the public eye because he needs to "promote" his work. I surely would hate to have someone taking my picture or have an audience of 5,000 people when I go to work tonight and judge not only my skills but also my appearance!!! toni ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 14:24:15 PDT From: kristina allen Subject: i think i finally get the video ok the chick in the video changes everything to fire and in the end chris right? ok well chris puts himself out saying she can change everything else but not him!!! -kristina p.s i called fanatic but they never called me back those bastards!!!!!! "she lived like a murder how shed fly so sweetly, she lived like a murder but she died just like suicide" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 17:45:09 EDT From: Nadezhda Ball Subject: eep! grunge! and the fans who love it... Hey aren't they alternative? That's what (in the words of O6z6z6y) eMpTyV told me to think. They fit in the same category as Alanis. That's what they told me. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. eMpTyV is GOD. It's the great hair debate. Poor guy. Havin an entire list dicuss whether or not they like his hair. Glad I jumped on it! Someone mentioned Fanatic... I dunno. I really would not like to meet him in such a situation. "Omigawd! I'm your biggest screaming fan, and I'm so wack that I had to go on a show that has people like Claire "Can't Act" Danes and Britney "Honey How Old Are You Anyway To Be Prancin Around Half-Naked" Spears and OUT OF SYNC to show everyone in the country that I can humiliate myself and you on TV!!! And I just have to pronounce that I'm a bigger fan than anyone by showing off my Chris Cornell socks that I paid $1K on ebay for!" If I were to take him on that show (if he even agreed to it) as soon as he showed up I'd be like "Let's ditch the squarepeg gig and get a cup of coffee! Hell let's go to a bar! Or play some video games! Drink and play video games! Hell who cares, let's just go!" Then again I'd prolly be so nervous I'd pee my pants and then faint. So I don't think I wanna meet him anymore... Or anyone else from the band, let's save some embarrasment... that's so sad. da queen uda hedgehogz roamin' around all silly-like... and settin her vcr... dezh. "if this isn't makin sense, it doesn' make it lies." like anything I say makes sense... "the truth don't look that good on me." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 18:22:23 EDT From: andy gorlich Subject: kim's guitar does anyone know what kind of guitar kim had on black hole sun???? thanks in advance -andy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 15:56:00 -0700 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?alexandre=20nanoglou?= Subject: CONCERT IN PARIS Chris Cornell will be in paris for a concert : the wenesday 27, october 1999 at 7h30 pm ELYSEE MONTMARTRE 72, bd Rochechouart 75018 - PARIS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 00:35:06 EDT From: Robin Warren Subject: Re: Metal Hammer Article My guess would be that he probably has to do a couple of interviews whether he wants to or not because of his contract with his record company. Robin ! ---------- In a message dated 9/6/99 3:21:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, solipsist79@YAHOO.COM writes: > I find it ironic how he goes through > the motions of complaining about how he dislikes > publicity so much, in the middle of a huge bloody > publicity campaign! I've gotta say I don't really > like it, but of course, you should never try and judge > someone by the way they come across in a magazine > interview. ------------------------------ End of SOMMS Digest - 6 Sep 1999 to 7 Sep 1999 **********************************************